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Second video shows Planned Parenthood negotiating payments for ‘baby parts’

A new video further unmasking Planned Parenthood’s abortion business has been released online by The Center for Medical Progress. The revealing tape comes on the heels of a video released last week which exposed Planned Parenthood’s medical director, Dr. Deborah Nucatola, discussing the selling of the body parts of preborn babies.

In this second video, we see another high-ranking Planned Parenthood executive – the president of the Planned Parenthood Medical Directors’ Council, Dr. Mary Gatter – once again discussing the sale of baby body parts:

The scandal undoubtedly has Planned Parenthood executives sweating, but they’re not about to get any respite.

While Planned Parenthood CEO Cecile Richards insists that they do not sell the body parts of preborn babies killed in abortion, abortion advocates have tried to make the situation out to be one of creative editing on the part of CMP and an executive with a callous “tone.”

Clearly that “tone” is not unusual among Planned Parenthood’s top medical directors, as we see in this video Dr. Gatter discussing the prices of various body parts and how they are negotiable, bartering payment, and talking about how to best abort the preborn baby in order to get the most body parts. While Gatter repeatedly says that she isn’t in it for the money, she also talks about how the compensation needs to be enough to make it “worthwhile.” She also admits to receiving payment for the baby body parts in the past.

Federal law also prohibits the changing of medical care for the purpose of tissue collection. Gatter acknowledges this law, saying:

If our usual technique is suction, at 10 to 12 weeks, and we switch to using IPAS or something with less suction,  in order to increase the odds that it will come out as an intact specimen, then we’re kind of violating the protocol that says to the patient, ‘we’re not doing anything different in our care of you.’

She then goes on to call it a “kind of specious little argument” and says she wouldn’t object to asking the abortion surgeon – referred to as “Ian” – to modify the procedure to an IPAS technique .

To help increase the odds of harvesting an intact specimen of the aborted baby, Gatter is seen offering to use a “less crunchy technique” to ensure the body parts are not crushed.

At the end of the conversation, Gatter notes that if the compensation is “still low, then we can bump it up.” Afterwards she is seen joking about the payments saying, “I want a Lamborghini.”

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Lila Rose

Live Action president Lila Rose strongly denounced this latest example of Planned Parenthood’s gruesome business practice.

This latest video further illustrates the barbaric reality of business at Planned Parenthood–that after selling an abortion, Planned Parenthood works to improve their bottom line by harvesting the body parts of the child they have just killed. What has our nation come to that we allow the brutality of abortion upon our children, and then sell their broken bodies for profit, all the while, funding the perpetrator? While millions of Americans, on both sides of the political aisle, are expressing their horror at Planned Parenthood’s trafficking of preborn children’s bodies — their tiny lungs, hearts and livers — our taxpayer dollars continue to flow into the organization at the rate of over $500 million per year. Human rights are bipartisan — where is the outcry from presidential hopefuls Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, Bernie Sanders, and others over sale of the parts of children? Silence in the face of such atrocity is complicity.

CMP’s first video caused an immediate outrage, and spawned one Congressional investigation and, so far, seven state investigations. Planned Parenthood tried to spin the facts to make themselves look like the victims of a smear campaign, but unfortunately, the facts are not on their side:

  • PJ4

    Yikes!
    Another bad week for PP.
    Cassy, you might want to retitle your article to :
    The Historical Take Down of America’s Largest Abortion Mill

    :-D

    • For people to know the true degeneracy of PP, perhaps they should see with their own eyes what StemExpress is selling (Hint: baby human foie gras).

      http://stemexpress.Com/shop/fetal-liver-cd133-stemprogenitor-cells-2/

      • PJ4

        Omg
        These people are real sickos
        They’re going down Marty.

        • There was a link to their entire catalog (in pdf) that I wanted to post, but it has mysteriously quit working. The scrub has begun. But not before I downloaded the pdf file. I’ll find a way to get it to you.

          • PJ4

            Yes please
            Paul has my email address :-)
            I’ll get it published

          • Expect it after 7:00 cst, I’ll be at my hotel by then.

          • PJ4

            Excellent!
            Looking forward to it, my friend ;-)

          • Wahooforever

            Marty, I just realized that you have disappeared from my list of who I am following! How did that happen? I think (hope) that I just clicked something on accident and now it is fixed. But could you please just check your followers list and make sure I am showing up there?

          • Indeed you are Wahoo. Disqus is still experiencing issues it seems. Right now I can’t post to or upvote anyone at Breitbart.

          • I had the same problem earlier today on Breitbart… could not post or upvote.. I think their site is messed up in a big way….

          • RueTheDay

            I had it that problem the other day.

          • yes it seems like it’s been fixed now.. must have been their website having issues…

          • RueTheDay

            I have entities following me that have no history at all. Is there a way to delete them???

          • Yes Miss Rue. Go to your profile page on the Disqus dashboard and click on the word/tab “followers”. Scroll to the undesirable follower and click the box “remove”. If they continue to follow you can report them to Disqus. ;-)

          • RubyMontana

            I have done that so may times, Marty. But they come back. I no longer report. I just delete. I once started a thread on it. Disqus locked it. I started another. They threatened to delete my posts.
            Sigh.

          • RueTheDay

            Good grief.

          • It seems to happen to you ladies more often than not. Especially you gals that smack around the pajama boys. I guess being a heartbreaker is a burden you must bear Ruby.

          • RubyMontana

            So it seems. I’ll have to wear the badge proudly. What else can a girl do?
            :)

          • Just keep smacking them around Ruby, we got your back if the need arises. ;-)

          • RubyMontana

            LOL!
            Thank you!

          • Jed

            Roger that.

          • rhonda.foster

            Thank you from me too! :-)

          • You’re welcome. ;-)

          • DianaFeb

            lol

          • The great thing here Diana, is a few months ago I invested heavily in Nestlé®. With the ladies I follow, and the amount of hot cocoa they’re causing to be spilled on the manginas of pajama boys web wide, I’ll be a millionaire in no time. ;-)

          • DianaFeb

            LOL

            That’s brilliant! I like it.

            I’ve never actually read the term, “pajama boys,” before, but I think I catch the main idea?

            Thanks. I hope you do get to be a millionaire, kiddo. The sooner, the better :-)

          • RueTheDay

            Thanks! Done!

          • Brewskie

            I don’t understand what the Follow/Followers is all about.

            I don’t get email when they post or other notifications.

            What’s it for?

          • I normally view the people I follow/followers through the Disqus dashboard. You can then view the people you follow using the “Latest Comments” tab. I find it easier to read the comments of the people I follow that way, because it’s more condensed. It also saves time from having to go thread to thread. But if you see something or someone you want to comment to, you can click on “view in discussion” and jump right to that thread. You can also turn on/turn off the email alerts by going to your profile page and selecting that option. I keep mine set to off so as to not have one more place I have to check for responses to my comments. Since I use the dashboard, it has an “inbox” tab where I check for responses. Hope this helps. ;-)

          • Brewskie

            Dang

            I’ve been commenting on Disqus for 4 years and I never did delve into it lol

            Thanks!

          • You’re most welcome.

          • Yes, that’s what I do also, very good explanation BTW :+)

          • Thanks! :-)

          • straight

            Marty, what is the url command line to post images? What Disqus says to do isn’t working…I’m sure the problem is on my end.

            Thanks.

          • What’s supposed to work is just copy and paste the URL to the comment. But each individual website determines if they do/do not allow images. If there’s not an “add file” box in the drop down when you click “add comment”, then they probably don’t allow images no matter what. It’s like at TR (no images allowed), but you can add links by capitalizing the .Com.

          • straight

            Wow, what a precise and concise answer – right on the money. Now that you mentioned it, there are no images at TR.

            Thanks for taking the time for solving this web mystery for me, I really appreciate. All the best, my new friend.

          • You’re welcome my friend.

          • Paul

            I set up a filter in my mail program to send notifications straight to “Deleted items”. That way, if I want to pick something out of there I can without Disqus up. If not, it all goes away when I close my E-mail program.

          • Smart man. I would imagine that some folk don’t use Outlook for their email, or their provider doesn’t have that as an option for standard fair webmail. But that’s still a great idea Paul if one can do it.

          • Jed

            That’s easy for you to say, Marty. I’m still offended by the fact that Paul is trashing all my replies to him. I was already trashed — he didn’t need to add to the problem.

          • LOL Could it be payback from all those Greyhound® tread marks? LOL

          • Jed

            Et tu, Brute?

          • LOL A veritable “Night of the Long Knives” my brother. ;-p

          • Cajun Exile

            Paul’s fault again? I have to rush those “It’s Paul’s Fault” lapel pins…

          • Jed

            Get with Shep and bundle them with the t-shirt order. In fact, maybe we should go with t-shirts instead of lapel pins!

          • Cajun Exile

            I am thinking lapel pins or thongs…the lapel pins say “It’s Paul’s Fault” ….the thongs say…”What would Paul do” ….I figure with those two items we could cover 95% of the important things in life. The remaining 5% we would have to find common ground between the lapel pin and the thong….I am thinking sports coat, no collar and jeans might cover the last 5%…but hey I might be a bit old fashioned.

          • Jed

            I like it! I can see the ad campaign now: These thongs personally endorsed by Paul! Think we should check with his wife?

          • Cajun Exile

            As a happily married spouse she should be fine with the “What would Paul do?” theme…I mean..it’s worked so far in the marriage, how can we be rocking the boat now?

          • Jed

            I don’t know, he seems to be well acquainted with spike heels.

          • Cajun Exile

            “And the thing that you’re hearing is only the sound of

            The low spark of high-heeled boys”

            www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=udyNr0pY6ak

          • Jed

            Ha! But in Paul’s family, his wife wears the heels.

          • Cajun Exile

            I suspect that hers are higher “sparK”…

          • Paul

            She already knows what Paul would do…What he is told to do.

          • Cajun Exile

            We are doubly safe with the “What would Paul Do” thong then…we are aligned with “the laws of God and wife”…which in marriage carries a lot more weight than “the laws of God and Man” by a long shot…

          • Paul

            Don’t you guys have something better to do?
            Must be a slow night.

          • Cajun Exile

            Look Paul…lets get this straight….I was going for the straight formalwear accessory. What could be more innocuous than a lapel pin.

            Jed is the one who brought up the subject of casual attire. I had to be “flexible” in my previously rigid thought processes. As a friend, please do not prove to be an impediment to my personal growth.

          • Paul

            Sometimes, I’d like to take an implement to your personal growth :-)
            But if I can be of service by keeping you occupied and away from playing in traffic, I guess it is a reasonable cost of friendship.

          • Cajun Exile

            Paul, you are a true friend…playing Traffic is much better than playing in traffic…for 11 minutes and 29 seconds I was as safe as if I was in my mothers arms…

          • Paul

            I am amazed you got that reference! Well done.

          • Jed

            I had hoped Paul would understand such things.

          • Cajun Exile

            I am sure he understand it now…If not…his wife will explain it to him… :0)

          • Jed

            Paul is richly blessed to have such a good wife.

          • Cajun Exile

            Indeed…if everyman was blessed with a good wife the world would be a much better place….

          • Jed

            Very true.

          • Jed

            The joys of an artist are so few…

          • Paul

            Artist, amuse thyself.

          • Thomas

            Hope you’re sitting it out this time instead of standing right here?

            But you’re right. This has become overdone. Should I report the fellows to the Vatican?

          • Jed

            It wouldn’t help. We have a special dispensation.

          • Thomas

            I don’t want to risk adding to my confessions so don’t tempt me ?

          • Paul

            No. Stick to their chain of command. The Ministry of Silly Walks.

          • Thomas

            At this hour anything is possible so let’s just go with the flow.

          • Jed

            But we do it so well!

          • Paul

            Don’t give her any ideas.

          • Jed

            Sorry.

          • Paul

            I’m thinking a royalty is due here.
            I’ll have my laywer call your lawyer.

          • Jed

            I thought you were paying us a promo fee.

          • Eponymous1

            I like the t-shirt WITH lapel pin look.

          • Jed

            Brilliant! Marketing genius — Paul is going to owe us a ton on promotional fees, but he’ll get so rich and famous from this it won’t bother him.

          • Eponymous1

            We can be his “entourage.”

          • Jed

            Cool! He can buy us all nice tuxedos — his entourage should look sharp, after all.

          • Paul

            This group?
            Makes me think of lipstick and …..

          • Jed

            Paul, Paul, Paul — work with us here! We’re going to make you rich and famous, man! Just go with the flow.

          • Paul

            Groan…..You to Epo?

          • Eponymous1

            would you prefer “posse?”

          • Paul

            I would if I didn’t feel I was the objective of it.

          • Cajun Exile

            I have come here to praise Paul, not to objectify him.

          • Cajun Exile

            Didn’t Javalina’s son have a different name for that?

          • Peter Gibson

            Call me when you’re making hoodies. I’ll order a few.

          • Cajun Exile

            Hoodies? Cool! With the tagline “I ain’t upvoted nuffin’s” perhaps….

          • Paul

            “Feared by Duckie…
            I can’t be all bad”

          • cwgf

            LOL!

          • Peter Gibson

            I’ll set to work on the logo design. lol

          • Jed

            Excellent! For the very best deal, order them by the gross, although I can make you a really good price by the dozen. They make wonderful gifts!

          • Paul

            Oh yours don’t go in the trash. I have a very special place for yours.

          • Jed

            Gee, thanks, Paul. Cough, cough.

          • RubyMontana

            OMG! I have had this problem for months. They come in the night and follow like crazy! But they never comment on a thing. And they often don’t speak my language.
            Delete from your Disqus page. All followers have the option for you to stop following.
            But take it from me, that won’t stop them. They can appear just as you click them away.
            I think they are automated.

          • RueTheDay

            What’s their agenda? Anyone know? (One of mine was accompanied with — I think — Arabic characters. It was either that or Pitman shorthand, lol.)

          • RubyMontana

            This what I think, and If I’m gone tomorrow, I may be right. So keep an eye out for me!

            I think it is software. The “follows” come overnight to me for the most part. They are often in Arabic or Asian. They have ZERO comments and are often private. It’s almost like an attempt to show activity where there is none. Many posters by entering a site directly. They may not even know there is a Disqus page. (The “dashboard”.) So, the followers stay. And that looks like a lot of “likes”.

            Many do post once or twice, often in a Disqus “channel”, or site. It could simply be a mechanism to make them look larger than they are.

            Go to your dashboard and look to the right. You will see a list of “interesting commenters” and “channels”. Hit the link on the bottom of the list and you will see more. If you are on that list (I often am) you will get the phantom followers. They sort of tried to say that was a compliment. But it’s work getting rid of them.

            I live with it. And the scolding I get from Disqus for mentioning it.

          • RueTheDay

            Aha! (Lots to learn.)
            It’s a giant pain in the butt!

          • RubyMontana

            Indeed.

          • Cajun Exile

            They are looking for you or your friends to divulge personal info so they can commit Jihad on you….

          • RueTheDay

            ARRRHHKG!!!! I KNEW IT!!! Time to pull out the Groucho Marx disguise glasses!!! (Or maybe … Perry glasses???)

          • Cajun Exile

            They did not find out that you live on Bakalakadaka street did they?

          • RueTheDay

            Dunno — armed and checking for outside skulkers now … must be careful not to brain a neighbor …

          • Thomas

            I had one follow me for about a week 3 months ago. Locked comment history but I was able to verify his/her identity by looking up the name on Facebook. Sure enough all in Arabic so I just deleted that follower. Luckily no other incidents since.

          • Cajun Exile

            I have had about 4 or so…but then I have had my brazen moments…

          • Paul

            I really wish I knew. It seems like a lot of energy to expend. For what?
            Of what value can us Disqus denizens be?

          • RueTheDay

            Mayhaps they’re doing a study on geniuses. Ahem.

          • Jed

            Ruby if you’ve removed one of them twice and they come back again, report them to Disqus.

          • RubyMontana

            Jed,
            That’s the way it’s supposed to work. But it doesn’t. Sigh.
            Disqus does not control (well) the volume of phantom followers, nor do they seem to be able to stop repeaters.
            I have been warned by Disqus to stop saying that. So, I simply delete. Or I lessen my own activity. The less you post, the fewer the followers. But it helps to know I am not alone. Thanks!
            :)

          • Paul

            Ruby. Multiple following after removal is a bannable offense in Disqus. You can go to their profile and up in the upper right corner select “report user” You click on the “Spam” as the reason and the next page will let you pick “Follows multiple times after removal” They will want a link so paste the profile link in the space provided. It can take a week or so for Disqus to get to it but they will leave you be if you are diligent about reporting them.

          • RubyMontana

            I have done that to the point I am the fool, lol!
            I have complained about it. I have been told I will be deleted.

            I don’t like to comment on the never-ending barrage of phantom followers that end up on my dashboard each morning. Disqus doesn’t like that. Disqus no longer sends me email notifications. I have the box marked, but I MUST go into the dashboard to rid myself of them.

            I think it’s all the “click”. They want the action. I pay the price to post. I live with it.

            Thanks for responding, though. I don’t feel like I am out here alone with the issue!
            :)

          • Paul

            Your experience with Disqus seems to be at the extreme end of the spectrum. I have never had a direct response from Disqus or their MODs. I would be interested in how many other people have had an experience similar to yours.

            I Did start a thread on Disqus once explaining that their service aids stalkers and ignores the needs of users by not giving users the *option* to affirmatively approve followers. They never responded to my topic but seemed to react to anyone posting in agreement with it. It seemed passive aggressive. I guess everyone should keep in mind that we are not their customer, our eyeballs and clicking fingers are their marketable product.

          • RubyMontana

            Absolutely.
            I also never post in a Disqus “channel”. If I do, I post V E R Y carefully. That’s the only place they can delete me.

            ( I also started a thread. The Mod came in and locked it. I no longer complain to Disqus.)

          • RueTheDay

            I used to get email notifications of people who were starting to follow me. That’s stopped, and it seemed to stop around the same time as the phantoms started showing up. Also, some people who were following me suddenly disappeared. I don’t know if they fell off or removed themselves.

          • RubyMontana

            I have that problem, as well. I usually follow them, again. That seems to work. I also notice that the count of who I follow is not close to the actual number of people I do. Also with followers! It looks like I have more than I do. I have 50 followers! But I actually have 31.
            Maybe I should be flattered?!
            :)

          • RueTheDay

            I figure feeling flattered is always a darn good option.
            (Disqus seems to be having no end of weird things happening lately — latest one is it sometimes starts slowly scrolling down on its own. Most annoying!)

          • I can’t upvote anyone or post on Breitbart. Again. 3rd time this week.

          • RueTheDay

            Glad it’s not just me. (For example, I’ve upvoted this comment of yours for the third time now while I’ve been typing this reply.)
            Maybe they’re in the process of “making improvements.” Every time you hear someone’s making improvements, you just know it’s all going to go to h3!! very soon after. GRRRR.

          • RubyMontana

            It’s far from perfect.
            But I will say, I have had more than my share of troubles!
            :)

          • infadelicious

            Check every day. They spring up like weeds

          • RueTheDay

            Touch wood, I’ve been lucky, only 2 so far.

            Hmmm … I wonder if I should feel slighted, lol.

          • RubyMontana

            I cannot even get to my own comments, today.
            Disqus seems to not be cooperating.

          • It’s been intermittently jacked up all week Ruby. Let’s just hope it’s not part of a new “experience enhancement”. ;-p

          • Bucksergeant

            Also happened to me Wahoo.

          • YouHateMe

            IT still hanging around for truth telling?

          • barney59

            Marty / I’ll try to pull it down too, you’re right, it’s got to be out there somewhere… B59

          • I have it in PDF format. I found it yesterday before they pulled it. I’ll get it to PJ this evening and she’ll get it to the people at Live Action News.

          • barney59

            Gotcha.

          • DianaFeb

            Yes, some folks posted a screen shot on Facebook.

            “Intact fetal cadaver eight weeks = $600”

            I would so just love to . . . Well, I shouldn’t even write it, really, but it might have to do with not being intact anymore.

          • The whole thing is absolutely monstrous. It’s hard to believe that anybody can defend this. A new level of depravity Diana.

          • Paul

            It’s been instructive Marty, to see the organized defense circulated out to the troops. First it was the “You meanies are against life giving organ donations”, then it was “There is zero proof to back this up”. Of course, there were no allegations to prove, just a damning video or two speaking for themselves. They seemed to have turned mean now and are threatening the ones who made the “illegal” recordings. I had one guy tell me that we should ignore the recordings because they are illegal and therefore “Suspect”. These guys don’t logic much do they? The fruit of the poisonous tree doesn’t apply in public speech.

          • The sad/scary thing to me Paul, is I don’t think we’ve yet seen the level of depravity they can reach. But we will.

          • Paul

            This one has them a little desperate. It surprised them in their confident superiority. I smell the fear of a wounded beast.

          • Bucksergeant

            Every Up-vote I gave you for the last 4 days to this post is gone.

          • Paul

            Hi Buck!

            A lot of other posters have noticed Disqus interruptus for the last couple of days. Thanks for the slew of upvotes.

          • Bucksergeant

            You deserve every vote I give.

          • Paul

            Thanks buck.

          • Shep Schultz

            They’re screwing with the matrix again. Get ready for changes.

          • Paul

            Yup.

          • Paul

            What Shep said

      • RueTheDay

        Well, ya just knew that would be coming, didn’t ya!

      • Eponymous1

        Fetal Liver – CD133+ Stem/Progenitor Cells
        $2,425–$24,250
        WOW. There’s some serious cash in babykilling!!
        No wonder they’re harvesting unborn humans… they’re a cash cow.
        (apologies for the gallows humor. I really am aghast.)

  • Rebecca Rose Downs

    This is going to be quite problematic for them! It’s really going to poke a bunch of holes (as if that hasn’t happened already) in the statements from PP’s Eric Ferrero and Cecile Richards. Nucatola is not an outlier and I doubt that Gatter is either. It’s also not like the buyers asked Gatter what kind of a car she wanted to drive… How stupid (and cruel) are these people to say such things!

    • WorldGoneCrazy

      They think of themselves as the “enlightened” and “progressive” ones, Rebecca. (I grew up under liberalism and barely escaped. :-)) Same as the slave owners and Jew gassers.

  • LoveTheLeast8

    Poor Planned Parenthood. Not. They need to be defunded and prosecuted ASAP!

    • hilaryLiedAmericansDIED

      ROT in prison, planned”parent”hood. NO mercy. NONE.

  • George OLoughlin

    Please pull this down. This video shows her not taking the bait to go higher on price and raising an ethical concern on her own. You’re video showing the first director saying they set the price to yield a profit without raising suspicion was very incriminating. This video just mitigates that.

    • Paul

      I Disagree. This video has value and establishes that PPFA’s involvement from the previous video was not a one-off thing. The whole “reimbursement” of cost is a red-herring. When someone has fixed costs for a product delivery, additional monies to defray those costs adds to the bottom line, the net profit. It goes towards the Lamborghini. I would prefer that all of the information be put out there, not just that which is “Super-incriminating”. It goes to credibility.

      Besides, we don’t know how many of these video’s are out there. This might well be an “Obvious” objection that the next video would address. Perhaps it is useful to get the organizations reaction to this before the next one comes out.

    • LoveTheLeast8

      This isn’t Live Action’s video. They are just reporting on it.

    • hilaryLiedAmericansDIED

      Absolutely—NOT!!

      PROSECUTE the despicable,baby-BUTCHERING planned”parent”hood—NOW!!!!

  • dblaess

    Said it before and saying it again. After this video, It is going to get more interesting to see how PP, MSM, and leftists are able to justify abortion as termination of non viable fetus tissue, but then sell that tissue as viable baby organs.

  • VB501

    This isn’t any different from those who used Jews for “medical experiments” during the Nazi holocaust. These people don’t “look like monsters”, they don’t think they are doing anything wrong- they probably justify this because it is “medical”- but it shows the capacity for evil from human beings. It IS murder – it IS “stealing” the life from a vulnerable, helpless, defenseless human being.

    • WorldGoneCrazy

      Same thing with the Nazis: many of them were quite handsome, had great table manners, knew several languages, but the lampshades gave them away. :-(

  • J.J. Francesco

    “But they offer other services to women!” So in other words, you can do horrible things if you do great things as well. You know those arguments are coming. Once the “they deceptively edited this video” claims become jokes, they’re going to need to find some desperate attempt. But nothing can defend PP from this.

  • Heather Enberg

    Why is the full version of this video set to private? I need something to send to people who say “I don’t trust this source because they heavily edit their videos.

    • LoveTheLeast8

      The full version of the first video was put online. I’m guessing they will do the same for this one.

    • Nordog6561

      >>Why is the full version of this video set to private? I need something to send to people who say “I don’t trust this source because they heavily edit their videos.<<

      You mean people who say that haggling over the price of body parts harvested from slaughtered babies just needs the proper "context" to be morally acceptable?

      What in the world do you think you could say to such a person that would be of any use?

      • Heather Enberg

        The truth is always useful. They don’t have to believe it, but I’m called to tell it.

        • Nordog6561

          Then you tell them only a ghoul would be more upset with the person posting the video than the content of the video itself.

          That would be the truth.

          POST SCRIPT:
          While the truth is always required, it is not always useful. It is necessary but insufficient. The truth has no bearing on those who are irrational or of ill will.

          • PJ4

            No! No name calling!
            ;-)

          • Nordog6561

            No.

            Rather, there’s no name calling HERE.

            I made no promises to cease calling the ghouls by their name at other places. Nor did I promise to never counsel anyone that other people should be called ghouls.

            :-)

          • PJ4

            LOL
            Point.
            But this is LAN, so be nice.
            :-)

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            I am in big yogurt then! I have been using “ghoul” for a week now. As in, “What a ghoul!” (I figure if anyone calls me on it, I can say “I meant ‘girl,’ ‘girl!’ ” :-))

            Come to think of it, I think I got “ghoul” from you, PJ4! And, you know my philosophy: always mimic the best! :-)

          • PJ4

            What?
            No not from me
            Nordog uses it
            I’ve used it maybe 2 or 3 times

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            I stand corrected! But, you did use “monsters” in one of your all time greatest comments recently – around 120 likes, and I, for one, say that if the word fits, we should use it. Don’t go getting soft on us, PJ4: we have high expectations for you. :-)

  • Thomas

    Hillary is unavailable for comment due to being preoccupied with ongoing shredding of emails; Bernie is too busy promoting the realities as practiced by the Cold War communist regime; the Donald is currently taking a count of Mexican nationals working at his properties. Our only hope is Dr Carson.

    • What’s it

      If you don’t like it, move back to your indigenous country.

      • Thomas

        It’s interesting that you bring this up. As of late you’ve been degrading me on a number of sites for being a legal immigrant. What’s wrong with you??

        It is evident that you misunderstood my reference to the Donald. Inability to discern meaning as per usual Lyds.

        • PJ4

          OMG
          Are you serious???
          Its not for her to call black people feral negroes, now she’s going after legal immigrants too??
          Wow.
          See.. this is just one of the reasons I hope she never becomes pro life.
          Just wow.
          Could you do me a favor and email me those links or screen shoot her comments?
          Thanks

        • Jed

          It could be that the only type of “immigrants” she likes are those correctly termed illegal aliens.

        • WorldGoneCrazy

          Everyone except illegal aliens and Native Americans are, technically, legal immigrants. My family came over from Germany in 1799. :-)

          • Thomas

            I prefer the term American Indian. You are not a legal immigrant but a native of this land. I’m a naturalized citizen so that’s different. My children though are natives just like you ?

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Oh gotcha – thanks for the clarification. I was gonna refer to myself as a German-American. :-)

          • Thomas

            Hyphenation is so retro my friend ?

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Well, I guess you know how old I am then! I-am-big-on-hyphenation. :-)

          • Thomas

            You did reference the year 1799 LOL

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Haha – good one! Not quite that old, but some days …

          • MamaBear

            Some of us are so mixed up (ancestry wise that is) that hyphens would not work. I think I would have about seven. LOL

          • Basset_Hound

            Gee, I feel cheated! Dad’s parents came from Germany when they were kids, so for the most part, I’m a Kraut

          • MamaBear

            I had a student on the reservation who forgot I was white and asked me what tribe I was from. Maybe someday the day will come when we look at one another with our hearts like she did.
            (I’m about as “pale face” as they come.)

          • YouHateMe

            Jesus only had one tribe. That child was innocent and saw you through innocent eyes.

          • Jed

            I’m with you with regard to the term American Indian, Thomas. As much as I admire many of them and much of their culture, the direct ancestors of those people popularly referred to as “Native Americans” were no more the original inhabitants of this land than the Normans and Saxons were of England.

          • Anat T.

            Nobody is native. Of the few nations I know, every single one has a foundation myth about coming from somewhere else.

          • Jed

            Absolutely!

          • Anat T.

            Except, of course, for the so-called Palestinians, who have evolved from the primeval soup right where they are now, in some primeval continent that was called ‘Falastin’ even then. This is common knowledge and PC.

          • Jed

            Ah, yes. “Common knowledge” — analogous to “common sense” when used by leftists to violate the the Constitution. If “everybody knows” such and such, it probably ain’t so.

      • PJ4

        Racist.

        • Thomas

          I agree.

        • What’s it

          It’s a little early to start throwing wild accusations around wouldn’t you say?

          • Nordog6561

            It’s never too early for the truth for those who don’t champion the killing of innocent people.

          • What’s it

            Lol stop.

          • Nordog6561

            What would you charge for a fresh liver from a recently slaughtered feral human fetus?

          • Nordog6561

            No, really, how much would YOU charge for a fresh liver from a recently slaughtered feral human fetus?

          • PJ4

            What wild accusations?
            I don’t make wild accusations, you do.
            I’m just calling it like I see it.
            Do you have a problem with being called out on your racism?
            Called any black people feral lately?

          • What’s it

            Dial it down Pj. Take Mitzi’s advice and have a midol.

          • PJ4

            Dial what down?
            Again, what are you talking about?
            And… if you’re a feminist why would you tell someone to go take a Midol?
            Hypocrite.

          • PJ4

            *sigh*
            I’m not acting like you, Lyds–we’ve been through this already.

            Why is Lila a domestic terrorist?
            Who are these other domestic terrorist of which you speak?

            *note.. I don’t expect anything coherent out of you or any evidence for any of your inane claims.. but I thought I should ask anyway.

          • What’s it

            http://www.dailydot
            Dot com/politics/gop-planned-parenthood-video/

          • PJ4

            LMAO.
            Wow.
            This is where you need to study up on your fallacies.
            That whole article was one big “Poisoning The Well” fallacy.

            Lila has no “formal ties” to CMP and the “article” makes no attempt to prove that she does.
            Most of the article is twisting around what really happened and fiction.
            In short.. it was most likely written by a pro abort :-)

          • Alexandra Baldyga

            i dont mean to just like CHIME in here or anything…. but i just noticed the URL posted… i havent read it yet…l but i realize you said it must have been written by a pro abort…… well isnt this article written by a pro lifer?? whats the difference? its almost like you just said your less inclined to believe it cause it wasnt written by some one with your same views…. well if thats the way it works than really what truth are we going to get out of any of this… all we have is a video that is described in a completely different light by two opposing parties… i am assuming when the investigations are over that it will meet some where in the middle as far as where the truth really lies… but until then we basically have two different sides fanning the flames to make a statement.. which is all well and good.. but you cant just pick and choose the articles written by the opposing party and pass them off as fiction… true journalism lies in those that are able to put aside personal views and take all aspects into account whether they be against your claims… or whether they promote your claims… its just that ONE tiny sentence you wrote almost took away all argument on your behalf. pro life or pro choice… either way the facts will be brought out.. but until then we just cant pass off other articles because their view differs from our.

          • PJ4

            Point taken Alexandra
            I think most of us are more apt to believe articles written from our own side…human nature, perhaps?
            You’re right. I’m suspicious of pro aborts and I have no qualms admitting that.
            They’ve never given me reason to trust them
            I did read the article and it did have several half truths and out right lies—just as I expected and all it was was one big character assassination of the people who did the under cover investigation
            That’s called the fallacy of poisoning the well. A fallacy isn’t an argument.
            And…..the guy who did the video isn’t a domestic terrorist nor is Lila, like What’s It and the article implies.

            Also…no worries about “chiming in”(I’m actually quite glad you) this is a public forum–you can chime in any time….anywhere…. to anyone (unless of course the poster has expressedly asked you to leave them alone and constantly ignores you, then it’s more like having boundary issues and stalking ?)

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Liberal definition of domestic terrorist: anyone who tells the truth about liberals; or interferes with their blood-sucking baby sacrifice.

          • Thomas

            I flagged this comment. You are disturbed.

          • What’s it

            I’m sure that you flag all of them. You and your love for the 1st amendment cannot be mistaken.

          • infadelicious

            she calls them negroes.. feral negroes

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            If you want “wild accusations,” I am your man! And really, after the past couple of weeks for PP, it is going to be difficult to come up with a “wild accusation” that is not true.

            “Cecile Richards parties with Adolph Hitler doll!” “PP staff enjoy some embryonic soup at damage control meeting: ‘We killed two babies, I mean, birds with one stone over lunch.'” “Blood red Lamborghini shows up in driveway of Dr. Mary Gatter.” :-)

        • Nordog6561

          Name calling?

          ;-)

          • PJ4

            That’s not name calling
            She’s racist.

          • What’s it

            And Nordoggy is a homophope. I guess two wrongs make a right. ;)

          • PJ4

            Um… No… he’s not.
            He’s well aware of my bisexuality and we’re very good friends.
            He’s never given me any indication of being homophobic.
            He accepts me for who I am.

            In your crazy liberal pro abort world, two wrongs make a right.
            But not in reality.
            When are you going to grow up, Lyds?

          • infadelicious

            i thought two wrongs = right… didn’t she already cover that with the feral negroes and the feral hillbillies comment she made?

          • PJ4

            Yes, she did.
            Her logic is silly.
            LOL

          • infadelicious

            silly and bigoted

          • PJ4

            Yes.
            Very much so.
            She just accused me of acting like a middle school kid.
            Bwahahahhahhaha
            Oh the irony.. that she doesn’t even realize.

          • What’s it

            He accepts you because you stroke his closeted ego. And he’s the type that thinks it’s ok for two women, but not two men.

            You must intentially not read the things he says to gay people on other threads.
            Call me a liberal all the live long day, it makes no difference. You’re too lazy to come up with anything else, it’s easier to just put me in a box.

          • PJ4

            I don’t stroke his ego at all.
            What are you talking about?

            And.. you put yourself in a box. I don’t have to.

          • What’s it

            Because everyone who is pro-choice is a liberal right? No, you just like perpetuate childish flame wars consisting of conservatives vs. progressives. It’s shameful, because I believe that you posses more intelligence than that.

          • PJ4

            Again..what are you talking about???
            When have I ever perpetuated any flame wars?
            And I never said that all pro aborts are liberals—but most of them are.

          • What’s it

            For staters, I’d really appreciate it if you’d stop throwing me under the bus over at COTR. This is precisely why I asked you how old you were several weeks ago, you go on like a middle school aged kid sometimes.

            And just for the record, I am pro-gun, pro-DP, pro-war, and pro-choice. So by default, not a hypocrite.

          • PJ4

            I’m not throwing you under the bus anywhere.
            And for someone who constantly rambles on like a toddler… calling me a middle school aged kid is hilarious.
            Hello pot, meet kettle.

            And for the record, there’s no default setting for hypocrisy.
            Please learn how to argue.
            You’re getting tedious

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Not all pro-aborts are liberal, but almost all liberals are pro-aborts. There has never been a pro-life Demon-crat presidential candidate since Roe and Doe. Almost unheard of in Congress too, with VERY rare exceptions.

          • Shep Schultz

            If Nordog and I are both homophobes would those two wrongs make a right?
            *************
            What is a homophobe anyway?

          • infadelicious

            are you a feral homophobe? Or just a regular homophobe?

          • Bucksergeant

            It is someone who hates heterophobes.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            That was actually quite clever!

          • Jughead417

            Exactly…great. I’m going to remember that, Bucksergeant.

      • Nordog6561

        Xenophobic bigot.

        • infadelicious

          Feral xenophobic bigot…fify

          • Shep Schultz

            (snicker)
            ******************
            Give her the laughing Cartman. She H A T E S laughing Cartman.

    • hilaryLiedAmericansDIED

      Dr. Carson’s alright, but not our “only” hope.

    • WorldGoneCrazy

      Jindal, Walker, Cruz, Huckabee, Perry. Carson is awesome, but not tough enough to take on the evil of the DP.

  • 0or8afh

    I’m curious about something. After an article I read regarding the first video and how there was this supposed editing that took place, PP made comments about how PP didn’t do what the PP woman in the first video said they did. But the PP follow-up comments made no mention of how the video was edited. I would think that if they believed the video had been edited, they would’ve said so.

  • hilaryLiedAmericansDIED

    The only thing clear is that you, cecil, are a DISGUSTING excuse for a female.

    And you, gatter, are the MOST REVOLTING old hag that ever walked the earth.

    The unimaginable torment in hell that witches like you will suffer for a car…like the acid showers at Auschwitz…

  • snaved41

    What would make a, supposedly normal, person think like this?
    I read a book about a serial killer and after he would kill one of his victims he would go home to his wife and children, have a nice supper, spend a quiet evening and go to work the next day just like a normal person until he got the urge again. After he got caught he spent the rest of his life in prison
    I have so often thought that these abortionists and their cohorts are about the same. After a “good” day they go home to their wives/husbands and children and enjoy their evening with wine and good food? But these people are protected by our sick government and society because someone, Sanger, came up with the idea of eugenics and it has become widely accepted in the name of women’s rights How very sick and so much hogwash.

    • WorldGoneCrazy

      Sadly, many of them sit in the pews and sing in the choirs of our churches too. But, God has their number.

  • gsmullennix

    After birth, the fetus is alive and a human, right? So, is the baby now the patient? If not, why not?

    So, who completes the “abortion”? Spokesperson for PP says that the decision is between the birth mother and her physician. Seems utterly stoopid.

    Can the newborn be terminally aborted within two minutes of it being born alive? Two hours? Two days?

    Do abortion supporters approve the killing of an alive baby?

    This goes well beyond a slippery slope. Carly Fiorina asks what has happened to this country. It’s a question requiring an answer.

  • VeryDisgusted2

    These disgusting witches are worst than criminals. They killed defenseless babies and proudly trumpet they profit by selling body parts. They seem to enjoy their gruesome deeds. I would like to see their faces grimace during lethal injection.

  • Foster

    They will still claim it’s for storage and delivery of donated murdered children parts not profit. Oh, well I guess they’d say “tissue.”

  • Mohammed Imam

    ِALLAH please destroy America NOW
    They did’t find a crime unless commit it
    America Does’t deserve the bless of living

    • Jed

      Don’t you have a beheading to get to, Mo?

      • Brewskie

        lol!

    • Cajun Exile

      Perhaps you are late for a stoning? Or a date with a very slow goat? I know you guys find it embarrassing when you have to chase the goats around the mud hut…sweet talking them so they don’t run off. But hey, if the choice of sex partners is your overweight first cousin who ate all your cupcakes at your engagement party when you were seven years old or the goat…I guess it makes sense that you would go for the goat. Less baggage…

  • Interesting