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Feminist radicalization update: “dress modestly” now code for misogynist oppression

Nothing is more certain to freak out pro-aborts than suggesting that sexuality should be accompanied by a degree of responsibility. On Friday, ThinkProgress reported on a Modesty Matters pamphlet distributed at the Family Research Council’s 2012 Values Voter Summit:

Modesty Matters criticized women for dressing “immodestly” at church, and blamed women for causing men to stare lustfully at them.

Women must “embrace MODESTY in dress and behavior,” one of the handouts read. Women dressed immodestly in church are “an insult to a holy God,” another said.

Other excerpts:

- From the “Modesty: It’s nothing to be ashamed of” pamphlet:“Since men are particularly visual, immodesty in church can trigger lustful thoughts.”

“My men’s bible study group talks frequently about controlling our lust, thoughts, and eyes. Yes the problem and responsibility are ours, but is it really reasonable for the women of the church to make it THIS difficult for us?”

- From the “True Woman Manifesto”: “All women, whether married of single, are to model femininity in their various relationships, by exhibiting a distinctive modesty, responsiveness, and gentleness of spirit.”

Today, our old pal Amanda Marcotte seized the opportunity to slander conservatives as “fear[ing] women’s liberation and want[ing] to control women’s lives and bodies.”

I’ll be the first to agree that men have every bit as much responsibility to be sexually mature and prudent as women. No matter how sexily a woman is dressed, basic decency demands that men treat her with respect and resist whatever temptation they may feel to take advantage of her or betray their own significant others.

But right out of the gate, one omission should raise suspicion: if the people at ThinkProgress have the pamphlet, why doesn’t their article include or link a full version that readers can judge for themselves? We’ve noted before how ThinkProgress distorts and omits facts to suit its agenda; could it be that they’ve left out quotes that do place equal responsibility on men? (I’ve sent inquiries to ThinkProgress, FRC Action, and Modesty Matters about the pamphlet, and I will update if I receive a response.)

For what it’s worth, though, the above image from the pamphlet mentions “quotations from Rules of Civility and Decent Behaviour (Applewood Books),” a famous collection of advice revered by noted Old White Guy George Washington, which includes such admonitions as “Put not off your Cloths in the presence of Others, nor go out your Chamber half Dressed” and “In your Apparel be Modest and endeavor to accommodate Nature, rather than to procure Admiration keep to the Fashion of your equals Such as are Civil and orderly with respect to Times and Places.” Neither says anything about applying to only one sex. How controversial!

As for Marcotte, her argument is – as usual – a parade of lazy, clichéd mischaracterizations that can be distilled to two basic points. First, modesty is code for “second-class status” and “trying your best to be invisible,” or the idea conservatives are really “trying to shame women out of wearing clothes that make them feel attractive.”

Marcotte seems to have a mental block that simply will not let her rationally consider the possibilities that maybe there’s a time and place for different modes of dress, that maybe there’s a downside to emphasizing one’s sex appeal in everyday wear. Despite Marcotte’s use of the term “mandatory,” nobody’s calling to enshrine dress codes into the law; one group is merely sharing its perspective on how to control one of the human race’s most powerful impulses.

I assume that even Amanda Marcotte’s not so far gone that she favors public nudity, meaning she at least partially grasps Modesty Matters’ underlying rationale. So somewhere, there is a line of good taste between “stark naked” and “burqa” after all. Yet Modesty Matters is unreasonable for discussing it? And no, it’s not that she simply thinks the group takes it too far – note that she doesn’t propose her own alternative clothing standards or critique a particular standard posited by the pamphlet. To her, merely raising the subject is outrageous.

Second, because the pamphlet doesn’t mention abortion, somehow that illustrates the “anti-woman and anti-sex roots of their hostility to” abortion. No, seriously:

What’s interesting is that neither of these arguments for or against mandatory modesty mentions “life,” the supposed concern of conservative Christians who pass laws controlling female sexuality by attacking reproductive rights. Even the most strained Christian rationalizer who has convinced him or herself that merely looking at a birth control pill causes spontaneous miscarriages of nine-month pregnancies isn’t crass enough (yet) to argue that a man’s stray glance at a woman’s legs in a miniskirt takes any kind of “life.”

Not only does Marcotte go on to again out herself as biologically illiterate (or pretending to be) by equating sperm cells with unborn human beings, but she may have set a new world record for straw-grasping. The Summit – like many large political gatherings – had many different exhibitors, each with different interests, businesses, and focuses. Modesty Matters isn’t a political or pro-life advocacy group, but a small business that sells sewing patterns and courses for modest clothing.

Why do they need to wade into the abortion debate? Why can’t they simply be interested in and value their modesty message for its own sake? And how does FRC giving them a table even remotely call into question the sincerity of the pro-lifers in attendance?

Marcotte’s warning that conservatives and pro-lifers see women as “creatures put on earth to serve men” (by…not dressing in man-pleasing ways, apparently) might not be so laughable if these people didn’t see misogyny and oppression around every corner. But when outrage becomes an industry, when your entire raison d’être is to keep a particular demographic group perpetually offended and fearful, no cause for war is too petty.

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  • MarcotteIsANutter

    I would really like to know what Marcotte is smoking. These statements annoy me:

    Women exist, in their eyes, to serve and to be invisible when they can’t be of direct use to men. Reproductive rights and sexual autonomy threaten that view of women, because these things suggest that instead of a servant class, women are people just like men, instead of creatures put on earth to serve men.
    The entire idea of abortion is that suddenly a woman can be used for obvious reasons, and the evidence is easily rid of. Not the idea that women are strong, proud creatures who become mothers, leaders, and a source of support. The lack of modesty leads women away from prominent positions in organizations and in their preferred path, and instead they are selling their bodies.
    Marcotte thinks the only way to dress modestly is: Thus, it’s women’s responsibility to suppress men’s lust by wearing long skirts and shapeless clothes.
    I recall Chanel designing gorgeous clothes that flattered a woman and maintained modesty. I can think of several designs and styles to wear about that don’t have cleavage flaunting and TMI.
    But I guess I’m heading down the wrong path, right? I should flaunt everything I’ve got, get the male attention that those clothes call for, and then abort the after result. That’s the true meaning of a woman in 2012, right?!

    • PD

      quiet please:

      “Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.” (I Timothy 2:11-14)

      • MarcotteandPDareNutters

        Nice try. Now do your homework: The words “Hesuchios/Hesuchia” are typically mistranslated into “silence.” In actuality, they are about peacefulness. This request is not unique to women. Men were created quite an uproar (try reading the rest of the book), and we’re called to be able to study and reflect in a peaceful environment. We are not meant to be domineering to one another, but instead to remain peaceful. If we are in submission to our husband, then we are “submitting to his mission.” And if his mission is serving God, then we’ve got a great man on our hands.

        So, it’s cute that you try this approach, but your poor use of scripture does not justify women (or men) showing inappropriate parts. Cover it up for crying out loud!

        • PD

          hey, if you’re allowed to manipulate the bible to suit your own will, so can others. you do not have a monopoly on misinterpreting the bible.

          “… your poor use of scripture does not justify women (or men) showing inappropriate parts. Cover it up for crying out loud!”
          “If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off.” (1 Cor. 11:6)

          yes you should cover your head while you pray. but chances are you don’t. so when can we expect you to shave your head? or is that another one of the many verses you ignore/change?

          • PDsHeartChange

            Interesting to see what you’re going through. You struggle with the idea of abortion and now you struggle with scripture. I hope you find your place in life, sounds like you’re in a tough place and struggling.

          • http://twitter.com/CalFreiburger Calvin Freiburger

            We get it, you hate Christianity. If you sincerely want answers to these questions, then I suggest you take the commenter’s advice and do the homework necessary to find them. I wish you luck in such an endeavor. But if you’re just interested in anti-religious venting, then frankly, that’s not worth our time.

          • Elizabeth

            I am a Christian female and I have a head covering for prayer. Does that offend you as well?

  • http://profiles.google.com/kywrite Jamie Wilson

    I wonder, does Ms. Marcotte have anything to say about Muslim women who are admonished to “dress modestly” all the time, as part of their religion? I’m betting not. It’s only the Christians who draw her ire.

    I also wonder if anyone ever suggested to her that perhaps “dressing modestly” is simply part of common courtesy – not making a spectacle of yourself when you’re not supposed to be the spectacle is, well, manners. But then, manners aren’t part of the new feminist philosophy.

    • Meg

      Good point about the common courtesy of not trying to make oneself the center of attention at the expense of the real purpose of a meeting or event. And, honestly, the men may be distracted by a woman who dresses provocatively in church, but it is the other women around her (the wives, fiances, girlfriends, mothers, daughters) that the underdressed woman is really offending and annoying: “So, you’re going to plant your super-mini-skirted butt next to MY husband, are you?” Marcotte is simply trying to turn women against women in competition with each other.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonathan-Kuperberg/698603245 Jonathan Kuperberg

    Amanda Marcotte is of the same mind as S.L.R. and “tethersend” in the UK. Both “child protection” senior teachers who think it’s OK to act as secret confidantes for underage girls involved in fornication and sensuality, when they work in schools full of pro-family girls and parents. For them, a war on modesty, parents’ rights and traditional values is “confidential pastoral care” and helping “young women’s reproductive rights”. The filthy God-hater Marcotte promoted similar extremist hatred of morality in a 2011 article, saying that high schoolers should have “an experienced adult” in school to discuss their sexual techniques with in case they are “influenced by porn into… not properly satisfying the female partner”. Lieberal femocrat scum.

    Lucky the SPUC’s Safe at School Campaign is fighting back- AND WINNING- against the parent-sceptic pushers of secretive explicit sex advice and “supported referrals” to unborn baby killing clinics in England. The FRC, CWA, FOTF, Live Action, NRTL and the rest need to make sure that they prevent this horrific anti-family doctrine crossing over to the US.

    Down with the whole unholy trinity of anti-parent anti-modesty anti-abstinence feminomaniac third wavers. Stop their nasty war on women and adolescent girls.

  • http://twitter.com/Astraspider Astraspider

    “Nothing is more certain to freak out pro-aborts than suggesting that sexuality should be accompanied by a degree of responsibility.”

    No. That doesn’t freak me out at all. In fact, I see it’s place in a healthy discourse, as long as it doesn’t also entail coercing girls into anachronistic roles.

    This, however, does make me cringe a little: “No matter how sexily a woman is dressed, basic decency demands that men treat her with respect and resist whatever temptation they may feel to take advantage of her or betray their own significant others.”

    As if a “sexily dressed” woman is an open invitation to any male that might put his gaze upon her. She’s apparently got no say in the matter; it’s solely up to the man to “resist”? Now that’s anachronistic.

    • http://twitter.com/CalFreiburger Calvin Freiburger

      Still intentionally attributing false and malicious meanings to the words of your political opponents, I see….

      • http://twitter.com/Astraspider Astraspider

        They’re your words. If you want to defend them, defend them. You don’t give your hypothetical “sexily dressed” woman any autonomy in what is, I assume, a hypothetical sexual encounter. It’s all up to the man to “resist temptation” and not “take advantage”. “Betrayal” of one’s wife is just one “sexily dressed” woman away; only the man’s moral fortitude stands as a bulwark. I just wish you’d acknowledge that sexily dressed women actually have a say in those matters.

        • http://twitter.com/CalFreiburger Calvin Freiburger

          It’s funny how brazenly you lie, yet get snippy when people notice. You know you’re intentionally inferring things in my words that aren’t there. You are an devout believer in intellectual dishonesty and character assassination, and with every post you further stain the character of your side.

          • http://twitter.com/Astraspider Astraspider

            I give you a fair amount of credit as a writer (something I won’t do for some of your colleagues), but when you don’t want to discuss your writing and its meaning, it makes me wonder.

          • http://twitter.com/CalFreiburger Calvin Freiburger

            Don’t play dumb. I neither said nor implied anything about “open invitations to any male” or “She’s apparently got no say in this transaction.” Any competent reader should be able to understand that I was specifically and clearly discussing men’s responsibility because of the claim that insufficient responsibility was placed on men. It is not plausible that a fair-minded reader with adult-level reading abilities could infer from my words what you’ve alleged.

            I suppose it’s possible that some sort of cultural/ideological prejudices or mental idiosyncrasies impair your ability to rationally understand words and compel you to fantasize that they contain asinine, misogynistic subliminal messages in anything you read that doesn’t comport with your prejudices, but you’ve established a long pattern of disregard for accuracy that makes me suspect malice as a more likely explanation.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonathan-Kuperberg/698603245 Jonathan Kuperberg

          sexual “provincialism”? You mean morality, as opposed to sexual “cosmopolitanism” or “sophistication”, i.e. all-out rejection of chaste living for San Francisco values?

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