Annabelle

Mom posts amazing photos of her babies, miscarried at 7 and 8 weeks, on Facebook

Mindy Raelynne Danison has suffered through two tragic miscarriages – one with the baby at seven weeks, and the other at eight weeks and five days. In response, Mindy created a Facebook photo album for each child, where she publicly celebrates their short, but much-loved lives. Mindy’s photos – especially one of Annabelle – have been shared on social media, and Mindy has expressed her desire for many to see her tiny babies. Their humanity could not be more obvious.

For more information on the development of babies at this stage – including amazing videos, ultrasounds, and photos – see The Endowment for Human Development. Eighty nine percent of abortions occur in the first trimester, when many babies look just like Riley and Annabelle. At only seven to eight weeks old, babies can touch their faces and their feet. At this stage of gestation, preborn babies can squint and roll over, and their hindbrain “presents striking resemblance to that of the newborn.”

 Annabelle was born after a miscarriage at eight weeks, five days, and she is incredibly beautiful.

About Riley, Mindy writes:

He went to heaven November 6th but was born November 23. We are blessed to have got to meet our little one. Life is incredibly beautiful! We went to walmart, then at 1pm on the way to mom’s house i started having contractions. They got more intense. When i got to mom’s i got into the tub and had my beautiful amazing little Riley at 3:35pm. Home water birth is what i’d always dreamed of having and i finally got to. Seeing Riley has brought me peace and comfort. I love him and God will care for him for me until i can be with him again. baby Riley is estimated to being 7.5 weeks, Riley was born at 10 weeks.

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Since Riley waited for two-and-a-half weeks in Mindy’s womb to be born, his skin is somewhat discolored, but he is still beautiful, and powerfully illustrates the humanity of children at the youngest ages.

To see more beautiful babies who are changing the abortion debate and showing the world the humanity of the preborn, take a look at Walter (19 weeks old), Nathan, (13 weeks old), and identical twins Chase and Cooper (22 weeks old).

  • WorldGoneCrazy

    Awesome pictures and thanks for the links too!

  • amazing and stunning.

  • Hope

    Beautiful little babies.

  • Lindsay

    The pictures are beautiful. It is very obvious that life begins very early and I wish there were more laws protecting sweet unborn babies. I also think there is a point where enough is enough. Sometimes you need to take it as a sign, and perhaps stop getting pregnant. A quick glance at this woman’s facebook and I see she already has 5 children, on one of her pictures there is mention of 4 miscarriages + a 5th that was considered a chemical pregnancy(early miscarriage) and she is now pregnant with twins? I also see she is anti vaccine so I can’t help but wonder what other choices she makes that are possibly contributing to her continued miscarriages?!

    • averyswife

      Um, seriously?? How about respecting God’s authority over our bodies and allowing him to bless us with children, whether or not they survive outside the womb? Some women greatly desire children and others have strong convictions that God direct their fertility. Judging her for allowing God control over this area of her life is ridiculous. And to mention that somehow her choices are causing her body to reject these babies is beyond cruel.

      • hopemills

        Completely agree with you Averyswife!

      • VoiceOfMe

        I too agree with averyswife!!

      • disqus_DyKswkJSY3

        I believe that miscarriages are God’s authority manifested. Nature’s process.
        It cannot be said conclusively, of course, but it’s generally accepted that most fertile women “miscarry” without knowing it. Fertilized ovum that does not develop to fruition, for whatever reason. At least a few, if not many times, throughout the 40+ years of possible fertility. Often, most of the time, an early miscarriage isn’t more obvious than a heavy period. Blood and clotting, not visible intact sacs.

    • Jenn Perry

      I had 5 miscarriages between the birth of my daughter and my son so did I make choices to you that caused it? I think what you said is terribly cruel and insensitive. I had an abortion at the age of 16 after being raped. Here is a link to my testimony it’s the first one under the testimony tab http://www.journeyofhealing.org..

    • justme

      How in the world does being antivaccine have anything to do with miscarriages? What an ignorant and hurtful thing to say!

      • Zemmle

        It has a lot to do with keeping your children HEALTHY AND ALIVE!

        • justme

          Man, you’re firmly brainwashed by big pharmacy aren’t you? Have you even done ANY research on vaccines? The injury rate associated with vaccines? The actual proven effectiveness rates of vaccines? I thought not. To suggest that her stance of PROTECTING her children from harmful chemicals caused her miscarriage is beyond ignorant.

          • Zemmle

            Yea I have actually, and discovered the Doctor that made the autism claim, came out and admitted to lying. Also, due to the ignorance of those of you against vaccination, diseases that were almost eradicated here in America are coming back. Suppose one of your children to young to receive got ill and needed to be in the ER where another unvaccinated human was receiving treatment for smallpox, or measles….very contagious diseases…then your very young child contracts it and dies? Oh I suppose you could take pictures of their corpses enhanced with cute bows from photo shop, post them to social media and get praises. Like I said earlier people in foreign countries would give uo limbs to have access to the medical technologies in the United States. Yet we the priveleged deny our children those luxuries to prove some kind of point. Big Pharm is an issue with all the different kinds of medicine they advertise on daytime television but vaccinations to prevent diseases that are being erradicated are quite a different story all together.

          • Summer Burch

            First this is the United States, were we stand together against all obstacles. We’re there’s a constitution, and the freedom to Prosuit happiness. Zemmle are you unfamiliar with St.James medical center, look in to it . The Grace of God shows mercy, discipline, and punishment. Don’t think for once that evil, isn’t in every part of this world we share…. if you lost your pet and find it dead do you no feel sadness, when you wake up interrupt in the night to a love one’s death do you no feel numb with pain. When you lost a person so closes to you , you just what to remember time well spent with them. We are judged by our actions, not with heart, but with ignorance, of other’s that don’t know how to feel. The deaths of baby’s ,that have not had the chance to live a life and live to see the good and the bad. To become a individual to learning , change for the good or worse. But this is not a mistake, plane parent hood is wrong on so many levels to disrespect God’s will. An Hell well be for every person that has crushed the souls of believers, in cold blood murder. Show sympathy for the grieving, who feel lost, that think God ,has turned his back on
            you , to let evil harm you. Keep faith in God . You will be rewarded. LOVE is the the strength of numbers. Put God first, and it will make sense.

          • jeanbean14

            You are a victim of propaganda…by choice. Is it responsible to choose ignorance? Use your God-given intellect to read up on vaccinations, and really look into it. Stop letting other people think for you. It’s dangerous to you and your loved ones. If you knew the actual injury rate from vaccines, the proven effectiveness of vaccines, had actually researched from reliable sources, actual facts, which are readily available if you take the time to look, you would not be an anti-vaccer. I am guessing you can’t even name a chemical that is harmful and back up the statement with actual data. But I do agree with you that it is equally ridiculous to suggest that vaccinations or lack of them caused someone else’s miscarriage, especially coming from Zemmie, whose previous posts are horrendously ignorant and callous. Not that anyone asked for my 2 cents. I just think you should be more diligent in factfinding before you decide for or against vacciines.

          • justme

            Actually I’m not a victim of propaganda, quite the opposite. I selectively vax my kids because as a pharmacologist, I do know the risks and effectiveness ratings. I also know that many vaccines use cell lines from aborted children. As a prolife proponent, it makes perfect sense to be anti vax, or at least very suspicious of vaccines. Please don’t dish personal attacks until you know all the facts about someone. Thanks.

          • jeanbean14

            OK, that makes sense. Sorry for being rude to you!

    • Cathy Bohman

      We live in America and have freedom of choice. She has every right to have However many children she chooses to have. You have the right to your opinion, that doesn’t mean you have the right to push it on others. Be grateful and sympathetic.

      • Zemmle

        If you have the right to an opinion but not the right to tell anyone your opinion….whats the point in doing the American thing and having an opinion….it is an open forum for people to discuss…..that’s right, their opinions….it’s bullshit the lady got her comment deleted on a public form.

    • Brandy Juhl

      Lindsay, that was just so beyond rude. :(

    • Rebekah Jank

      Hi Lindsay. I almost didn’t reply to you as I don’t want to start a war, but I would like to give you a few things to think about. I also have had 2 miscarriages and it is very painful for someone to suggest that we contributed to the loss of our baby. We who have had miscarriages already carry enough guilt , so please be cautious in passing judgement. Also, miscarriages in the first trimester are very common. It is estimated that 20 percent of known pregnancies end in miscarriage. Most often the cause of miscarriage is chromosomal abnormalities incompatible with continuation of life…this is not the mother’s fault…it just happens. Lastly, I am unsure of your beliefs, but I am a Christian. I have 8 children. 2 miscarried and 6 are perfectly healthy. We believe that children are a gift from God and we choose to trust Him to number our children. Please respect other parents right to make choices in the matter of fertility and the care of their children…Respectfully, Rebekah Jank

      • disqus_DyKswkJSY3

        No guilt about miscarriages. Non-viable pregnancy. It’s human; not something dysfunctional or something wrong. You said it yourself – it’s fairly common that confirmed documented pregnancies are not carried to term. Simply not viable. Many many many reasons.
        From fertilization to birth, it’s so incredibly complicated and complex, it’s a miracle that it ever happens at all and results in a live healthy ‘normal’ baby. Everything MUST be just right for each stage to occur as it needs to — pH balance, health of mother AND father, uterine environment, the fine balance of all the developing structures that must grow and develop to support the embryo (which are absolutely absent except for during pregnancy), hormone influence, chemicals triggered and delivered that are governed by neurology. It’s a frickin’ miracle a baby is ever born.

        • Rebekah Jank

          True, a healthy baby is a miracle!

    • Jessica Dale

      Mindy is a wonderful person and I am fortunate enough to consider her my friend. Quick glances at her page can not even begin to describe what an amazing Mother she is. We personally feel complete with our third child on the way and I feel blessed we will of had all our kids before I turn 30, never experiencing miscarriages or advanced maternal age. I don’t believe in signs. I just believe in Mindys amazing ability to be a Mom. Her twins and my now son are due the same time and I love watching them grow. I can understand any concern for her to be hurt again or suffer another loss but she’s a fighter and a wonderful women.

    • Denise L. Stajcar

      Lindsay,

      Shame on you.

    • Seriously insensitive thing to say…

    • mindy

      Well, im very glad you read the story and went to my page.
      I am against vaccines as 3 of my once healthy children were vaccine injured. I didnt know why I kept losing babies. I begged my obgyn to test me he refused until I had 3 losses in a row, and even then still refused testing. I found a new obgyn and they did testing and come to find out I have MTHFR, which is a gene mutation. Which can have serious reactions from any shot or vaccine. I was given the rhogan shot over and over from my ex doctor and the er during pregnancy due to spotting … once due to a sch. But, even then, I kept losing babies. This pregnancy, with my twins I refused the shot this time, and they are still alive and are 15 weeks.
      I trusted doctors, I trusted them with my kids and my body… I began to research and thats when I began trusting again, in Gods power of having faith. Every day I wake up, even before getting out of bed I pray these babies stay with us another day.
      I have taken my diet into account when I became pregnant this time. Gmos free, organic etc.

      I trust God. If I was able to get pregnant, there is a reason for it (as Annabelle and Riley has shown their purpose).

      I dont blame you for your comment or how you feel, however please get a dna genetics test done, I had no idea why I kept losing my babies, now I know!
      A single shot of anything may reactly negatively with your body. You never know what tomorrow will bring.

      God bless

    • Maurine Merillat

      How could you be so ignorant and cruel? Pray tell what makes you think that what you said is remotely and humanly okay? You need more Jesus my friend.

    • Troy

      Linday, who are you to decide how many babies another person should have? BTW, there is a lot of merit to the anti-vaccine stance. Do some research and get your head out of your rear before giving out advice to a hurting mother.

      • Zemmle

        There is no merit, as a matter of fact if you did your research you would know the Doctor that made that claim came out and said he flat out lied.

        • Keri Johnson

          What people are saying is do your research on the whys of the movement. Idk if it is true or not but it simply sounds like you are only repeating yourself about the dr who claimed they caused autism and it makes it sound like you are just saying what you have heard because had you researched the movement you would know there is more to it than the autism spectrum.

    • Shunteria

      Mindy is a wonderful person and a great mother. Who are you to tell her that her choices contributed to her loss? What an awful thing to say to someone. It’s also an insult to compliment her photos and then put her down. How many babies she has doesn’t concern you. I mean really? Are you even a parent? Have you ever had a loss? I bet it would change your opinion real fast. We love and support you 100% Mindy.

      • Feli

        Mindy is a lair and a very good artist but could use some work like knowing that fetus’ NEED an umbilical cord to be fed by, and that babies have veins before they have separated fingers and toes. Sorry can’t have support for a woman who would fake this just for the pro-life movement.

        • Feli

          That’s kinda my point your body does not eject/miscarry happy healthy babies (yes rare cases) and there is NOTHING wrong with these fetus’ at all to the point you cannot tell where they are fed at ect. . . so I say fake either by a very desperate twisted woman with severe emotional issues OR faked by pro-life movement NOONE in their right mind would do something like this and I’m even more disturbed by how many people think the photo added ribbons ect are cute . . . women who just lost their babies are NOT worried about making their fetus looking cute to post it online we’re bawling in the shower wondering why god has forsaken us feeling like we’re going to die!

          • Zemmle

            Yea….I completely agree about the bow thing….and how in GODS NAME…can you be pro life anti vax…..that’s a paradox in itself.

          • Feli

            Oh you haven’t seen how it goes hand in hand now? OMG it’s been a mess out here at our local health dept since it’s school vaccine time apparently getting them are as bad as abortions now. People be crazy now days!
            Edit: heck I heard one woman going on and on about how women who get epidurals are so disgusting and how they should be illegal and can poison the baby and give them brain damage.

          • Zemmle

            It’s like oh, let me have a boatload of children….and then refuse to help protect them from the diseases that could potentially claim their lives. That seems wise.

          • Patricia

            I’m just wondering how old you are and how many children you have had?

          • disqus_DyKswkJSY3

            She has five children. She’s under 30.

          • Karla Stone

            And this is a problem because? I had three kids by the time i was 30!

          • visitor

            Ah, to be young and stupid… Sweetie, let me provide you with some perspective. You cannot say, “NOONE in their right mind would do something like this and I’m even more disturbed by how many people think the photo added ribbons ect are cute . . . women who just lost their babies are NOT worried about making their fetus looking cute to post it online we’re bawling in the shower wondering why god has forsaken us feeling like we’re going to die!” See, each person grieves in their own way. And you have ZERO right to tell them them otherwise! In fact, what you are currently doing, by saying such asinine things, is the same kind of idiotic crap men used to say after a woman was raped. “Oh, she’s obviously lying, she’s not even crying!” People cope in their own ways! Mindy was loving and humanizing her children… which I know, pro-choicers hate (we’re all supposed to see a fetus as a clump of cells, lest we be called out for having a difference of opinion). Personally, I completely understand showing this level of love and attention to her miscarried fetuses. No one bats an eye when a someone cradles and pets their beloved family pet when it passes on. It couldn’t be more natural! Love doesn’t just DISSIPATE because of death, and we connect to the things and people we love by touch and sight. And you can’t honestly be stupid enough to say things like “{these images are fake because only horribly deformed fetuses are miscarried}”, right?! If you’re going to say stupid crap like that… AND MEAN IT… then please give us your carved-in-stone, self-righteous opinion on what SIDS really is. All those perfectly healthy babies dying in their sleep have broken hearts and confounded doctors since the beginning of time… but thank God, Feli knows everything and can straighten us all out now. Come on, Doctor Feli, with your vast medical experience… ‘enlighten’ us!

          • Everyonesacritic

            Actually, miscarriage of “happy healthy babies” happens more than you think. Just like mom’s body might reject a baby with an abnormality, mom’s body can reject pregnancy because of a maternal condition like a clotting disorder or illness. The baby would be and look just fine.

          • Zemmle

            Exactly so the body was taking care of what it needed to to SURVIVE.

          • Everyonesacritic

            Sometimes yes, sometimes no. It can be a maternal physical “malfunction” of sorts.

        • Rhiana Wackenhuth

          Before 9-10 weeks there is not an umbilical cord. There’s a fetal pole. So if you miscarry before the umbilical cord is formed, there wouldn’t be one :)

          • Feli

            Straight from the books: Umbilical cord: A cord that connects the developing baby to the
            mother in utero. The umbilical cord attaches to the baby at the abdomen
            and to the mother at the placenta. The cord forms during the fifth week
            of gestation (seventh week of pregnancy).
            See the “( )” part where it says seventh? So yes at the time this woman ‘miscarried’ there WOULD be a cord at the weeks you stated. If not then that is why the baby died not due to vaccines, abortion, whatever pro-keyboard warrior fight they are going for this week. Ty and good day.

          • justme

            There’s a big hole in your theory… not all babies form exactly on schedule, same as kids grow at different developmental rates. So to think that a little one turns 8 weeks old and automatically grows a cord that day because she’s scheduled to is flawed. This is especially the case in babies doomed to miscarry, many many times they are developmentally behind the “norm”.

          • victoria

            Exactly!!!… there’s a reason women miscarry in the first place. Her baby very well could’ve never had one to begin with.

          • jeanbean14

            She explained that. Read her posts above. In one instance, her husband cut the cord, in the other, she did.

          • disqus_DyKswkJSY3

            Fetal pole: the first visible sign of a developing embryo. It’s the embryo. The whole thing, not something that takes the place of an umbilical cord.

            Umbilical cord: there most certainly is one. It’s attached to the placenta. In early pregnancy, it has yet to develop. So there’s a yolk sac. Which supports the embryo until a functioning placenta takes over.
            1-12 weeks = embryo
            12+ weeks = fetus

          • Me

            Embryo or fetus, week 1 or week 40. IT’S A LIVING GROWING HUMAN BEING FROM DAY 1.

          • disqus_DyKswkJSY3

            I don’t read anything here saying it isn’t, Me. The term “fetal pole” means something other than what was stated.

        • Carol Lugo

          Funny,, I saw evidence of a chord… Look close in pic #2. Until 8 weeks they are embryos.

          • Feli

            Funny I just see a foot and a tummy, annnnd I’m gonna guess that none of you realize how embryos eat either . . . see this is why I usually don’t stick around these posts too long the logic is not too strong . . .
            Annnd honestly if you are looking THAT close at fetus pics . . . either you’re trying to convince yourself it’s real/fake or you are kinda a sick person . . . sorry but it’s true.

          • Feli

            It must be a sign that 28 is just too old for this new twitter generation even because I find it deplorable as well . . . really hoping this does not start a new trend and have every poor girl digging out her dead baby to post it online because ‘pics or it didn’t happen’ garbage.

          • Alora Nevers

            Actually im a Pediatrician and their is no cord untill 10 to 12 weeks the baby just kind of floats thats why most miscarraiges happen this early and no the mother can not help if she miscarries no matter what the reason woman get sick when they are pregnant is because its a natural way of your body trying to tell you there is a foriegn thing their a womans body will always fight the sperm and usually the body wont accept it till the baby is 15 weeks so dont be acting like ann immature child you have no clue what your even talking about

          • Feli

            As a woman who has had actual miscarriages, so terrible to the point I ended up loosing my whole ‘baby making’ system I KNOW what I’m talking about and yes it does semi float around but it is still attached because IT HAS TO FEED . . . ffs just google 8week old fetus and you’ll see EVERY SINGLE ONE of those pics have some sort of attachment to the baby. As a woman who has seen her own cleaned dead baby after a miscarriage in the hospital I KNOW the fetus is not so clean and looking like a sleeping little angel I KNOW a fetus will show veins along with other inside forming body bits and NOT looking like that little fake fetus scams that have been going all over the net for the last year.

          • Sheila Harrison

            Im very sorry to read that you miscarried. However you wouldnt want somone calling you a liar. We should have more respect and compassion for one another as mothers whether our babies are here with us or not. The cords look so small because the babies were so small. The cord grows as the baby grows, in fact the placenta had just began to independently and exclusively feed the 2 babies at around 6wks. Before that the yolk sac fed and sent the baby nutrients.

          • Everyonesacritic

            There is a cord present in these pics. And it is possible that when the cord (which is short at this gestation)was severed the fetal blood left the body thus making the veins difficult to see. These are real pics. Now, would I do this? I don’t think so. But, I can see why she felt it necessary to do so….to show these babies are human in such detail. Many do not even realize the humanity of these babies. She feels her babies deserve such and they were loved. I am a L&D RN. I have seen losses of all gestational age. I have had a loss of my own. The appearance of the fetus once it comes out, even at this age, depends upon a few facts and physical conditions. I hope she has closure now. Does she need help? Maybe or maybe not. I cannot say based upon pictures and my feeling that I would not do the same.

          • Feli

            BTW how is it that the cords just happen to know to form on the tummy for every single person if there is nothing there and they are ‘just floating’ then there is nothing there to guide it according to you?

          • Kaylenn Darby

            I’m sorry, this doesn’t have to do with the subject, but I’m just curious how you are a pediatrician and don’t use proper grammar or spelling?

          • Zemmle

            I thought the same….seems a Doctor of medicine would be able to use punctuation.

          • disqus_DyKswkJSY3

            What?

          • Everyonesacritic

            They have “cords” this young. They are just physically very short.

          • Zemmle

            That doesn’t make it any less disturbing. This woman would go digging through something, that by the timeline could have been a late period. Beginning of pregnancy starts at the beginning of your menstrual cycle….which lasts 4 to 5 weeks….the eggs is fertilized in that 4 to 5 weeks thus indicating she was 2 weeks late and the period began. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. Aside from that you are a male. This doesn’t concern you. :-)

          • Zemmle

            Im sorry for some reason i mistook your name for Carl

          • Everyonesacritic

            Yes, there is a cord there. That is right.

        • cece

          Look at her page you are right babies don’t come right out looking like that but she has more pics that actually show the sac the cut it out of! I had a miscarriage a 8 weeks but I had know idea there was a baby in side that bloody glob it thought it was the baby

          • cece

            I agree… even if I knew at the time there’s no way I would have cut my baby out and ‘played ‘ with it

          • JTMAR86

            why are you so mad and angry???? Poor thing.

    • Chassidy Davis

      My husband and I have had 5 miscarriages…..its not a sign to stop. How rude can you be? Unless you have gone through wanting a child so bad, to have the joy, then lose it, I’d think before you speak. We have a beautiful Annabelle of our own now who is 2 and I’m currently 4 weeks away from having our next. I did nothing to cause those miscarriages. I do not smoke, I do not drink, never have. Nor have I ever been on any drugs. I am healthy and take my pregnancies health very seriously, as most women do. Sometimes it happens. So please think before you speak on this subject. Some of us mothers may not have ever gotten the opportunity to hold our child, to kiss their sweet face or to count those cute little toes…..but it doesn’t mean we do not love them nor feel connected. I dream of their faces and miss them so much. A piece of my heart will never be made whole again till my angels are in my arms.

  • Lilian

    These pictures are excellent! They are almost of medical quality in their attention to detail and the good condition of the babies. Goes to show what water immersion does for fetal loss photography. These little ones are beautiful.

  • Elizabeth Shearer

    Poor sweet babies! I never got to see my baby Isaac that was miscarried around 11 weeks. I wish I could have seen him. I can imagine that there is some comfort for Mindy to see her precious babies and to know that they were real people and they were very loved.

  • Martha Marin

    Your babies are absolutely beautiful! They are watching over you mommy and grateful for the chance to be born and loved :)

  • Kimberly Ponder Peeples

    Heartbreaking and beautiful

  • Sweet little ones. RIP ??

  • c rans

    beautiful

  • cranemaker

    We support and feel for you after losing your children. I love the sweet clip art bow and heart enhancing a photo of Annabelle. May they rest in peace as you consolidate your grief with God, accepting His promise to reunite you with them in the afterlife.

    • Zemmle

      That’s actually the sickest one of them all.

      • cece

        You should look at her page there’s pics were they cut it out the sac!

        • Zemmle

          I saw….its unreal…and all these unwashed heathens sticking up for this!

          • PastProdigal

            If you want to find an “unwashed heathen”, it’s the person that stares back at you from your mirror.

          • NurseAsh

            That past part of your screen name is looking a little more like the present. I really hope you don’t claim to be a christian, God doesn’t like ugly!!!!!

          • Amanda

            There’s alot of you on here that need to just keep your comments to yourself. You look immature and to argue back and forth with an ass only makes you look like one also. Everyone is starting to get off point. This Mom is sharing one of life’s greatest gifts and you are bashing her. We wasn’t there through out her pregnancy or births. We never went to the doctor with her so we don’t know everything. Just show her support if you care and if you want to be a troll go do it elsewhere.

      • justme

        Hiw dare you criticize a grieving mother? Such a troll!

        • Zemmle

          It’s called being an American….if you want the world to see your most intimate moments and plaster them up all over tge web. You better be prepared for the backlash.

          • Marilyn Powell

            and that jutme person is right your a troll the person that has nothing better to do with their life’s but put negative crap on FB and hurt other people’s feelings

          • PastProdigal

            You have no right to criticize how someone else deals with their grief before God. If you have no love and respect for these tiny ones, you are in a bad way.

      • Lyndsie Duncan

        I wanna know why she keeps saying he and she and had names. They’re not developed enough to show boy or girl.
        I also agree, the Clipart was way over the top. It was too silly for this serious matter.

        • Ronda Swanson

          As pro abortion supporter you must feel extremely threatened by these lives to lash out. Ultrasound doesn’t show gender until later but at 8 weeks everything is already there, all internal organs, brainwaves, heart beating, fingerprints and yes, they could see gender. I know your side likes to dehumanize babies, but here it is,a baby, a life of value right in front of your face. Maybe that’s why you get rude about it. It makes it so hard to say we should kill babies, when we see them.

          • PastProdigal

            You are right. Photos (and love) such as this makes pro-abortionists cringe.

          • Lyndsie Duncan

            I’m BY NO MEANS pro abortion. I’m even against it in cases of rape. I’m strongly against abortion. I believe the moment you conceive is the moment that baby becomes a baby. And yes things are formed, but they wouldn’t be formed enough by 8 weeks to see a penis or vagina. They both start out as a nub. That nub either turns into a clitoris or a penis. I would never dehumanize a baby. I just have an app telling me how my baby is growing (I’m 29 weeks pregnant with a baby boy).

          • landnlottuna

            I agree, I am 100% against abortion, but the bow seemed disrespectful and silly to me too.

          • Lyndsie Duncan

            Thank you! Be careful, they will be calling you heartless next.

          • Virginia Torres

            Also right at conception the DNA is set and your sex is determined way before the physical aspect is developed!

          • NurseAsh

            Sex can only be determined by DNA until at LEAST 12 weeks

          • Lyndsie Duncan

            Exactly. There’s no way they’d be formed enough to tell that early.

          • Karla Stone

            Yes you can!!!!…i went through IVF to get pregnant with my 16 yr old daughter…my Ob/Gyn told me, while doing an ultrasound at one month pregnant, that she was a girl.

          • Lyndsie Duncan

            That’s impossible, but ok!

          • Maria Sotebeer

            Not true…I had genetic testing done on my 10 week old miscarried baby, and they were able to tell me that my baby was a girl.

          • NurseAsh

            Very true reread what I wrote!!!! Genetic testing uses DNA.

          • Maria Sotebeer

            Right, I know that genetic testing is using DNA, the untrue part I was referring to was the 12 week part of your comment. My baby was 10 weeks, and they knew the sex, you don’t hAve to be at 12 weeks to learn the sex.

          • NurseAsh

            12 weeks to show external physical indication of gender. Not to find out via genetic testing.

          • Maria Sotebeer

            Sorry, I totally misunderstood, you are absolutely correct!!

          • Maria Sotebeer

            Maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to say.

          • disqus_DyKswkJSY3

            Genetic testing on a non-viable pregnancy? There would have had to be a reason for such a thing. Assuming it wasn’t routine medical care. Most people here had miscarriages and didn’t seek medical care or don’t use OB/GYNs at all.

          • Maria Sotebeer

            In my case, I wanted to know what went wrong with the pregnancy, out of fear that it may happen again; Not that I could control another miscarriage from happening. So no, it wasn’t routine for them to do the genetic testing, it was more of a request from me. I passed her at home and took her into my OBGYN, turns out she had Triple X syndrome, or triploidy. I now have a healthy toddler and another little guy on the way. I just feel awful for anybody that has to endure this.

          • Karla Stone

            i went through IVF to get pregnant with my 16 yr old daughter…my Ob/Gyn told me, while doing an ultrasound at one month pregnant, that she was a girl.

          • disqus_DyKswkJSY3

            All embryos are female up to a point. Females have two X chromosomes. Males have an X and a Y. At an early stage in embryonic development, both sexes possess equivalent internal structures. Sex differentiation doesn’t happen for awhile. Hormones cause the change in the incomplete developing fetus. Testosterone and anti-müllerian hormone (AMH).

          • Karla Stone

            When we left the Dr.’s office, his nurse told us that in all the years my Dr. has been practicing, he was only wrong once in determining the gender of his patients babies.

          • NurseAsh

            I think that maybe you remembering it wrong. You can not Visualize genitalia in an Ultrasound before 12 weeks gestation definitely!!!!!

          • Virginia Torres

            But your DNA already tells exactly what you are not your vagina or penis! That is why transgender confusion is a mental disorder not a physical disorder you can not change your outward appearance and think you have changed, what’s on the inside says it! This woman could have had the DNA checked!

          • Lyndsie Duncan

            Oh my lord read my comments! The mom from the post commented earlier and said she DID NOT GO TO THE DOCTOR. These happened at home and at the gas station and she just dealt with it. No DNA test. I’ve said this so many times. In other words, at home, to be able to tell you’d have to see a little girl or boy part between the legs.

          • Karla Stone

            Maybe she had dna testing afterwards

          • Lyndsie Duncan

            You people are impossible lol.

          • disqus_DyKswkJSY3

            Somehow she knew an embryo had died in utero, 3 weeks before she miscarried.

          • Nikki

            Would it be out of the realm of possibility that after praying over her loss she gave each child a gender to help w thr mourning process? Not everything in the world is so cut and dry as to say no DNA and no 12 weeks pics = genderless. Some of us answer to a higher authority

          • Lyndsie Duncan

            I’m just saying what she posted.

          • Karla Stone

            Yes you can!!!!…i went through IVF to get pregnant with my 16 yr old daughter…my Ob/Gyn told me, while doing an ultrasound at one month pregnant, that she was a girl.

          • disqus_DyKswkJSY3

            No one is “pro-abortion.” No one.

          • NurseAsh

            The only way to tell gender that early on is DNA testing.

          • NurseAsh

            And you can look at her profile, it has pictures of the babies, you can not tell Riley from Annabelle. There is not girl/boy parts on either baby. Maybe she had genetic testing on them to find out the reason for multiple miscarriages and that’s how she found out the sex.

          • Zemmle

            I doubt she could afford it. NEXT?

          • NurseAsh

            Hey, HI, idk why you are getting all snappy with me!!!!!?

          • Karla Stone

            I went thru IVF to get pregnant with my 16 yr old daughter… ins paid for the whole procedure at 100% with 3 more lifetime attempts…and we are far from wealthy…we just had good ins….so yes, folks can afford it sometimes.
            You certainly need to do some research before speaking!

          • Katie McCoy

            You don’t know what anyone can afford. Clearly you couldn’t afford finishing school to morph you into a reasonable human being

          • Krass

            That’s not true! Sex can be visibly seen by 7 weeks.

          • NurseAsh

            No it can not. Where did you get that information?

          • Karla Stone

            Yes you can!!!!…i went through IVF to get pregnant with my 16 yr old daughter…my Ob/Gyn told me, while doing an ultrasound at one month pregnant, that she was a girl.

          • NurseAsh

            I think that maybe you remembering it wrong. You can not Visualize genitalia in an Ultrasound before 12 weeks gestation definitely!!!!! At one month pregnant your baby looks like a lil peanut. Just for Clarification Here is a YouTube video of 1 month gestation. https://youtu.be/bami9uGew4Y

          • Karla Stone

            There is no way i can remember that pregnancy experience wrong…it was a high risk pregnancy and i saw my doctors every 2 weeks…i also kept a very detailed journal because i was on complete bed rest my entire pregnancy. I was bored out of my mind so i journaled, scrapbooked, etc.

          • Tina L Gordon

            They cannot tell gender at 12 week scan let alone at 1 month… you are a liar

          • Karla Stone

            Yes you can!!!!…i went through IVF to get pregnant with my 16 yr old daughter…my Ob/Gyn told me, while doing an ultrasound at one month pregnant, that she was a girl.

          • Katie McCoy

            Exactly, just not always visible on the ultrasound because that’s a lot of tissue to try to see through

        • Marilyn Powell

          It’s how ever she wants to deal with it… just like some people take pictures of dead people in coffins and make it a family photo and some people deal with it like that no one should judge

          • Lyndsie Duncan

            I would take pictures as well. I just think the clip art was a little too silly for such a serious matter.

        • PastProdigal

          That’s good. Because you are. Or at least, thoughtless.

        • SavannahSummer

          You’re not only heartless but soul less as well….

          • Lyndsie Duncan

            I’m really not, but you can believe whatever you’d like.

          • Zemmle

            I thought every living thing had a soul. Hate to make you rethink your beliefs…but mayhaps you should.

          • Лилия Титарь

            Sorry. Can’t argue with someone who doesn’t bring valid points to the conversation. Also perhaps you forgot to take a couple of those round or oval things your doctor told you to take each day to make you better….I am pretty sure he told you not to skip any. #ByeFelisha.

          • SavannahSummer

            mayhaps? Maybe you should learn to spell.

        • Lyndsie Duncan

          I am a woman so I don’t understand this… And I’m 29 weeks pregnant. Pro life 110%. I honestly don’t even agree to it in cases of rape. I believe from the moment you conceive that’s a baby. A human growing inside you. You just can’t tell the baby is a boy or a girl by 8 weeks. All s/he would have is a nub. They both start with a nub, that nub either turns into a penis or a clitoris.

          • Ashley S

            The sex is determined by the sperm. Either a female sperm meets the egg or a male sperm. It doesn’t just “decide” what to be after baby starts growing. So if the DNA can be analyzed they would for sure know if it was a boy or a girl

          • Lyndsie Duncan

            Yes dna. However in a comment here somewhere the mother from the post said she didn’t go to the doctor. It all happened at home and at a gas station. I’m talking about you holding the baby yourself you would in no way be able to tell until at least around 12 or 13 weeks.

          • Ashley S

            Just because she didn’t miscarry at the hospital doesn’t mean the DNA wasn’t analyzed. She could have taken her babies in to have to analyzed and maybe figure out why she has been miscarrying. That “nub” has already been genetically coded to be a penis or a clitoris.

          • Lyndsie Duncan

            Trust me I know how all this works. I’m pregnant with a baby boy (29 weeks) and I’ve read everything I can on pregnancy every week as we go along.

          • disqus_DyKswkJSY3

            All sperm are the same. It’s about chromosomes.

          • Ashley S

            And each sperm either carries xx chromosomes or xy chromosomes. So no..not all sperm are the same.

        • Maria Sotebeer

          I miscarried my little girl at 10 weeks four days. I had genetic testing done to see what went wrong, and through that, they were able to tell me the sex at such an early stage. Perhaps she had the same thing done. That is why jumping to conclusions is not always a good thing….

          • Lyndsie Duncan

            She also said it happened at a gas station and didn’t go to a doctor though. She posted that in a comment somewhere.

        • Lyndsie Duncan

          To Sarah Shawver: I wish you’d read my other comments. Cause I’m so tired of typing the same thing over and over. I don’t support abortion in the least. I’m not a feminist. And I have no idea who that lady is. All I was getting at is by 8 weeks you can’t tell whether it’s a boy or a girl. Yes it’s a baby from the moment of conception. And yes as soon as the sperm hits it’s determined whether it’s a boy or girl. But the little parts can’t develop until at least 12 or 13 weeks. And the mom from the post stated in a comment that she didn’t go to the doctor, these happened at home and in the gas station.

          • Karla Stone

            I’m tired of repeating this as well…i went through IVF to get pregnant with my 16 yr old daughter…my Ob/Gyn told me, while doing an ultrasound at one month pregnant, that she was a girl.

          • Lyndsie Duncan

            It’s not possible without DNA testing, but ok!

        • mindy

          Do you have children, do.you.decorate photos of them? These are my children, and I love them just as I do my living children. Makes no difference, I even got a tattoo of Annabelle. Some say thats bad, but why? Many get tattoos of their children who has passed or their.childrens names. These are my children, no matter how early they were… they will always grow in my heart.

          • Lyndsie Duncan

            I’m sorry it’s just trashy.

          • Amanda

            I applaud you for your love and courage. I miscarried my first around 9 weeks and I wish I had known that I could see or/and hold my baby. Years later my Mother mentioned that she could have swore that when the nurse checked me she threw something away in the trash. Sadly it was probably my baby and the thought of it sickens me to this day, 11 years later. Your pictures show me just how precious my baby was. You see photos on the Internet from doctors but seeing your very real life pictures really put things in perspective. Our babies were very much real. How can people agree that stopping the heart of anything not be murder?

          • MCK

            My miscarriage was in the toilet at home. I was not about to look around blood clots and bloody water. Who does that? I had a miscarriage and i understood why that happens sometimes. Got a clean bill of health and tried again.

          • Karla Stone

            I would have…I’ve done the same for kidney stones…i want know what just happened to my body.

          • Karla Stone

            Put the nay sayers out of their misery please and tell us how you knew what their gender was.

          • mindy

            I didn’t have proof, I went by ho I felt and what i’d said the moment I met them.
            Riley I automatically said “he”. Without thought.
            And Annabelle I had only had her name picked out but no boy name. I always felt like she was a girl and when I met her, her name seemed to fit.
            If im wrong, its no big deal, I will find out in heaven when I see them again. Either way, they are my children no matter what true form of gender they took.

          • Karla Stone

            I’ve never miscarried but a friend of mine miscarried a couple of years ago…she gave the baby a gender neutral name, Quinn, but she always says she just knew it was a girl..so i understand this.

          • mindy

            I don’t know.
            I will find out their true form when I see them again.
            For now they are my children and how.I choose to identify them is hiw I felt when I met them. It just came out.
            Riley, I said “he”.
            And with Annabelle I called her Annabelle, as I had already had the name picked out and its just what I said when I met her. I could have said “he” again, but I didnt for some reason.

        • Marianne Sandy

          who cares what you think?

        • Krass

          Because the sex can be identified as early as 7 weeks.

          • Lyndsie Duncan

            Only through dna

          • NurseAsh

            No it can not be physically seen

          • Ashley Berrios Sanchez

            No, it can’t. You sound stupid.

        • Ashley Berrios Sanchez

          Wow, so your best defense is to tell someone they should’ve been aborted because you don’t agree? Real classy.

          • You took that wrong. I was making examples to express how important human life is. If people believe in abortion thinking that it’s not a human life, then your life didn’t matter at that point either so why shouldn’t you have been aborted? Believing that these babies were not human or not worthy of life basically takes away the value of a human life. What is the difference of murdering an innocent child and tearing an innocent baby into little pieces?

      • PastProdigal

        Just leave.

      • tristal

        Why r u looking then? I’m sorry no one cares to give u attention at home so ur on here trying to get it…as pathetic as that is….this world wld be less ignorant if these we’re pics of you. Better yet u shldve ran down your mothers leg…truly. No one cares what u think I still don’t understand why ur even in here then.

        • Zemmle

          Ha what a very christian thing to say. NEXT?

          • Kristal

            no its not since im not a christian….wow. and why are u still here? i KNOW theres better places u can be an ass. and lemme guess ur a christian…but say the dumbest stuff i ever heard?

      • scott kasten

        What? What the hell is wrong with you?

      • Wendy Griz Proffitt

        You are such a loser. You must not care for real human life. This was probably a way for her to grieve. And we should all support her for her lose. You have no idea what she has been through. I’m sure she is glad someone supports her. I love what cranemaker said.

      • Erin Davis

        I can actually understand where you’re coming from here. And of COURSE grief does different things to the mental stability of the grieve at different stages of the grief process. However, I can also accept and respect and see the beauty of the value that this mother placed on her chuldre , even at the very early stages of gestation. It isn’t for you or I to judge or make our wordy diagnosis. I respect life. .even though I am for all intents and purposes pro choice… but. I do respect what this mother did. She valued her babies, saw them as babies, and wanted OTHER people to see them as babies not merely Fetal tissue. It seems to me that this should be something that is shown compassion, empathy and respect. We live in a world where women choose to abort their babies simply because they don’t “feel like” being a mom, this woman is being a mom… would I post pics of my miscarried babies? I would like to say no.. but then again, I have never had to grieve a miscarried baby. Empathy is what makes us human and sets us apart from other life on this planet. All life is valuable.

  • Cal

    that’s not right at all to do that

  • Itsjust Penny

    Sorry for your loss and I appreciate you sharing your and your little one’s story.

  • Angela Bell

    Oh how precious thank you for sharing

  • Feli

    Bitter as the story might be no need to make up this fake stuff just for the pro-life movement this is a miscarriage tho there is no blood no damage to the fetus after the VERY through washing it would have had. Not to mention if you live in the USA you would not be able to keep this . . . sure as heck NOT put it in a decorated bowl. . . ok want me to think this is real show me some veins because if there are darkened eye sockets, show me some umbilical cord. . . and PLEASE explain to me why is has separated little fingers and toes FFS just quit feeding people BS to get them to agree with you through shock therapy.

    • farmgirl54

      Sorry you can’ accept truth. She did not deliver these miscarriages at a hospital, so yes she could have washed them and taken pictures. I hope you will be able to wake up and see the truth of the lies you now believe.

      • Feli

        Apparently your mama never explained to you that you cannot always believe what you see on TV holds true for the internet too. I’m sorry that I understand biology and understand how delicate a fetus is and understand that even if it were real this woman is not fit to be a mother because she’s digging through her own waste to find, clean, take pics, and post up her dead baby all over twitter… because you know that is the SANE STABLE adult thing to do.

        • Zemmle

          Wow…go back and read what you wrote….then come back and tell us who the moron is. Electrolytes….its what plants crave.

        • mindy

          I didnt dig threw anything, please know my full story before judging and assuming things you dont know. First you should look at more of the photos on my facebook page.
          They both had a cord, yes, my husband cut rileys and he and my mother watched my 2hr labor happen in my moms house and I had sat in a tub of water and pushed lots out. Eventually riley fully in his sac. Again, in my photos you will see in more detail what happened.
          and with annabelle I lost blood clots the night before. Went to the obgyn had an ultrasound and she had a perfect heartbeat of 165bpm. That same night,
          I was in the car, started having cramps driver stopped at a gas station, I run in feeling gushes, sit on the toilet and blood is everywhere, blood clots begin to come out, the it all stopped.
          I lean back and look down and she was hanging from the placenta, which was still insid me. I grab her with my hand, cut the cord with my nail and reach down to catch the placenta.
          Which came out right after she did.
          I kept her and the placenta, the clerk gave me a foam coffee cup and I put her in it with her placenta, I clean up and put a top on the cup. We get there and I get right into the bath tub with her.
          I hold her and told her how I loved her and I just looked at her body, I took photos to remember that beautiful creation. I do photography for family and friends so my mind is always on photo memories. No matter what.
          But I enjoyed our little photoshoots we did before I had to take her to the funeral home to be cremated.

          • Janaenae

            So Mindy,
            No medical advise or ambulatory care? Just in the gas station bathroom pulled your pants up grabbed the lid and took off? I am sorry for your loss truly I am! It’s just very hard for a lot to believe I think. I hope you got medical care after because you certainly would have or still do need it, you could have a large ammount of issues or maybe not. God Bless You

          • disqus_DyKswkJSY3

            Agreed. Always seek medical care if one believes one has miscarried. If nothing else, a woman needs the Rh factor checked.
            If you’ve had multiple miscarriages, even more important. Not just for mother’s good health, but for future pregnancies.

          • mindy

            Everything was fine. I had.an.ultrasound aftewards.to make.sure.everything was out. It.was.

          • Jordan Phillips

            You don’t always need medical care after a miscarriage. I’ve had several and only has follow up appointments with my gyno. Stop being so negative and let this mother grieve how she sees fit.

        • Marny Frantz

          Feli, you DON’T understand biology!!!! You are not even a woman, I have no idea what you are. No compassion, nothing, just bloviating about how this mother should feel, and if she is fit? Seriously? Now it’s waste? What kind of a person are you?

        • Amanda

          Anyhow, it is respect for the dead to remove the body of a dead baby from wherever the miscarriage took place. The baby doesn’t come out of the digestive tract. Learn some biology.

        • Terri

          Wow, Feli, i do believe that you are a person without a heart. Evidently you are not a mother and do not understand what it means to be a mother. If you ever have children, i feel so sorry for them unless you change.

        • farmgirl54

          So you know biology? What is your degree? Her child is precious to her, she wants pictures to memorialize its life, she wants to hold it, clean it and prepare it for burial because of the love she has as a mother. What she has done is a beautiful and loving thing to do. She may be digging through waste as you put it, but to her , her baby is there and is to be preserved and cared for even in death. I have my degree and have been practicing it for over 30 years. Your precious child is not “waste” . I pity you.

    • Carol Lugo

      Not true…have a cousin who kept her miscarried embryo in a small jar of formaldehyde.

      • Feli

        The docs wouldn’t even let me keep my wisdom teeth they sure as heck are not sending a sad upset woman home with a baby in a jar. I’d just stop while you’re ahead lady.

        • Kim

          Actually the state of Texas just passed legislature allowing parents to take the remains of their miscarried child. You might want to know what you’re talking about before you go criticizing and accusing others.

          • Feli

            Ok let me cut up your comment for you.
            They JUST did it.
            It’s Texas
            And I HIGHLY doubt it’s in a jar vs a better suited container for burials/funerals NOT for twitter pics.

          • Kim

            I work in the medical field in Texas, in WIC units and work with our palliative care committee. If she had delivered in a hospital they would likely have done pathology if requested and then released the remains in an appropriate container. Regardless of gestation they don’t put it in something burial-ready. Having delivered at home, a bowl makes perfect sense.
            Who are you to criticize how someone deals with their grief over the loss of a child? Pictures are perfectly appropriate. We ask all moms if they would like to hold their baby, give memory boxes including id bands, castings of hands/feet and foot prints…for all who have a “fetal demise” (before 20 wks).
            Also, the pictures do not look even remotely doctored. They are anatomically developmentally appropriate.
            Again, please know what you’re talking about before criticizing.

          • Lara Stoll Davis

            Thank you, Kim!! For your amazing and supportive response to the above comments. Some people just have no idea what it’s like to lose a child, no matter how small, at home or not. I lost my precious baby girl at home at 12 weeks this last jan. 30 and am thankful I was able to keep her. Although I didn’t look in the sac but know she was a fully formed little human being and I got to bury her while. All life is precious beginning at conception. Thank you for all you do in your life!

          • Alicia

            Depends on how far along the mother was. Before a certain week they may keep the miscarried baby after the certain week they have to be buried. I just can’t remember how far along they have to be. Besides, were you there when she miscarried? Don’t assume, you know what that does!

        • Angie Clark

          I had two miscarriages. I went to the hospital for my first. They confirmed It was a miscarriage through an ultrasound and the HOSPITAL sent me home. I passed it intact the next day. My second one I didn’t go to the hospital because I knew what was happening and what to expect. Last Monday my sister went to the hospital with bleeding where it was confirmed she was miscarriage….the HOSPITAL sent her home where she also passed it the next day. That was in MN. They do not keep you nor do they force you to bring it back. Until you have experienced the horrible situation of miscarriage (I pray you never do although 1 in 5 pregnancies go that way) you have no right to talk about what it looks like, where it happens or how someone copes.

          • Zemmle

            Did you dig through the goo you passed and plaster up photos for the world to see….? Or used photo editor to put bows and decorate the photos?

          • Angie Clark

            No, I did not “dig” around in goo. I did take a picture of the first one and sent it to my aunt (who had also suffered a miscarriage) for verification purposes. I also showed the picture to my doctor. That being said, people grieve and handle things in different ways. If you think these pictures are fake or just wrong, then close the browser window and move on. What is the point of bashing a woman for her choice of grieving methods? What does it accomplish? There is nothing worse then losing a pregnancy you wanted. The baby existed and it is a horrible feeling when it is gone and there is nothing to show it existed and was real. If the pics are fake, then whatever. If they are not, whatever.
            Personally, I am happy she took the time to share this. Miscarriage is very common but something that is not openly discussed. After my first one I realized I was a part if a club no one wants to be a member of. Women I had worked with for years shared their stories, family and friends called and shared what they had gone through.
            I think it takes a brave woman to do this and put herself and her experience out there for others while facing internet “trolls” that feel the need to say hurtful things just for the sake of saying them…because they can. So you don’t like what she did and you think it is wrong….fine, don’t do it yourself but why get so upset that she made that choice? Why does it matter so much that you would be cruel and spiteful?

          • Erika Wilcox-Roberts

            My son is my profile picture. I get her pain and heartache.

          • Zemmle

            Creepy

          • Zemmle

            Creepy

          • Amanda

            Beautiful, Erika. I wish I’d seen my baby and been able to take pictures.

          • Janaenae

            Well when I lost my son at 14 weeks in California I wasn’t allowed to just take him home! They do something here called a pathology report! So after she delivered her babies then what?? She just chills at home? I mean what about bleeding and so forth!? Wth is wrong w this world? I don’t even have words anymore. My BP is prob beyond over the norm just reading this!

          • Zemmle

            Mine was too. Im not even pro choice really….but this is sick.

          • Angie Clark

            I can not speak for this woman. I can only tell you what I experienced. I was 8 weeks along when I started bleeding with my first miscarriage while I was at work. I was told to go home and lay down. At that early in the pregnancy, if I was having a miscarrige, nothing could be done. The next morning the bleeding had stopped. By the afternoon it started again and I went in. I had an ultrasound where I saw the heartbeat and was given pictures. I had hope. When the doctor finally came in, I was told the heartbeat was too slow and sometimes “the products of conception spontaneously abort”. I was told to go home and if I did not pass my baby in the next few days to come back. I was bleeding and cramping and the next day when I went to use the bathroom I passed my baby into the toilet. I flushed my baby. I felt horrible doing it but didn’t know what else to do. I continued to bleed heavy for the next week. I took two days off from work because I was devastated and “chilled” at home although a better description would be refused to get out of my pajamas and would spontaneously burst into tears while going about my normal business since I had two other children to take care of. My second miscarriage was the day after I found out I was pregnant. That one I also passed while using the bathroom but this time was on the toilet paper. It also ended up flushed after I Sat on the floor of my bathroom staring at it in tears. Again, I “chilled” at home for a day before returning to work while I bled heavily for a week.

          • disqus_DyKswkJSY3

            Go find a doc. A nurse-practitioner. A midwife. Something.

          • Danielle W.

            Go Angie.
            Wow– so do some of you even hear yourselves!? A mother values her unborn and cherishes the memories of their few moments together through photographs, and you call it “disgusting”. Another mother allows her unborn’s brains to be sucked from it’s head and it’s bones to be crushed and pulled from her body piece by piece, then dissected and sold for medical research, and that’s totally acceptable!?
            Why are you being so judgmental of a woman’s choice to love her child when you defend another woman’s choice to butcher hers? At least, at VERY LEAST quit the double standard. If you’re gonna defend a woman’s right to choose don’t hate on the one who chooses to love.

            It’s so twisted and evil. God, have mercy.

          • jeanbean14

            I’m so sorry. One of my biggest fears was the prospect of having to go through a miscarriage. I never did, and I’m grateful for that. My heart goes out to you and all mothers who suffer this kind of terrible loss. God bless you! Thank you for telling the truth.

          • Marny Frantz

            BULL CRAP JANAENAE. At 14 weeks you have a funeral if you want. Don’t be such a dunce and a liar.

          • disqus_DyKswkJSY3

            Having a funeral for a miscarriage is a rather new thing. Many people do not. Most don’t. A full-term stillbirth is a different thing.

          • Erika Wilcox-Roberts

            I delivered my son at 17 weeks. There was no path report. We spent several hours with him and then funeral home came. He was cremated and his ashes were returned to me 8 days later. Lots of women deliver living and still babies at home. Unless, you have complications you don’t even need to see a doctor.

          • disqus_DyKswkJSY3

            One always needs RhoGAM for Rh factor if appropriate. Whether there are “complications” or not.

        • Nykee A. Gates

          Your dumb

          • Brandy Medlin

            **you’re**

        • Marny Frantz

          WRONG!!!! You really do make it up as you go along Feli. Many women ask to see and keep their babies when they miscarry, IT’S THEIR BABY!!!!!! I work in this field so don’t tell me anything different.

          • jeanbean14

            Also, if medical staff do not let a mother see her miscarried baby, that is a BAD thing, something to correct. One of my relatives did not get to see her baby miscarried at 7 months. The nurse said, “Oh, you don’t want to see it.” They told her NO. Unbelievable to me. I hope that doesn’t happen anymore. The baby belongs to the parents, not to the medical staff. People seem to think that birth, death, miscarriage…are MEDICAL events. They’re not. They are part of life and while modern medicine has taken the risks out of complicated deliveries, etc., people did these things at home among family for millennia. My sister got to see her baby boy who was miscarried at 6 months. He looked perfect, just small. The nurse asked if she wanted to see him. Her choice, nobody else’s. She cleaned the baby up and brought him for my sister to see. She was a good nurse. She said something like, “Hello, little guy. You are beautiful. I’m sorry you didn’t get to stay with us.” Makes me tear up when I think of how sensitive and appropriate the nurse was. And I remember the pain in my cousin’s voice when she told me how they wouldn’t let her see her own child that she miscarried, even though he was perfectly formed as well, at least from the outside. I can’t stand people who think they know best for someone else. I am also shocked at the disgusting responses of some people on this thread, and impressed with those who have answered them, such as you. God bless you!

          • disqus_DyKswkJSY3

            A 7-month pregnancy is a still-born, not a miscarriage.

        • Holly

          I got to keep my wisdom teeth when they were removed… I still have them LOL. Sorry you didn’t get to keep yours… JS

        • Keri Johnson

          Um my Dentist let me keep my teeth…

      • JTMAR86

        … I’m sure you think the people digging through petri tree dishes of excrement of OTHER women’s dead baby remains to sell body parts are A-OKAY…… now that is what is disgusting. If you are so disgusted by this why are you even bothering? move along little donkey (jack ass).

        • bree

          Disgusted upon how immature and low people could be !

        • Jellybeanbu

          I didon’tnt understand why it bothers you so much that she (theoretically) dug through her blood to find the baby… It’s not disrespectful in my eyes. It bugged the crap out of me to think I was flushing my child’s remains. If there were remains to bury and pay proper respect to, I would have. What is so disrespectful? I’m sorry for your own loss and you are entitled to your opinion, but that opinion may very well be hurting this mother and she is entitled to grieve as she sees fit as well.

      • jeanbean14

        I hate to be the one to break it to you, but babies don’t grow in EXCREMENT inside their mothers’ bodies. Do you think women poop out babies, or what?
        Newsflash #2: Your post is extremely disrespectful to this grieving mother, to her children, and to life.
        You must be dead inside.

    • Kelly Lord

      Go to her fb she has pictures of the babies in the sac and placenta and everything. Sadly this story is true:( but she is currently pregnant with twins!!:)

      • Janaenae

        I think maybe the pics on her fb are real. Maybe! But the ones above are 100% fake!!!!!

        • Marny Frantz

          Are you a medical professional? Do you work with pregnancy? I do, and these photos are real, this is how a baby looks when it is intact in the sac. If you keep the baby and YES I CALL IT A BABY in water, it remains baby like, if it’s allowed to dry it shrivels. Get your story straight Janaenae, you don’t have a clue.

          • jeanbean14

            Perhaps Janaenae needs them to be fake so he/she can continue to pretend that abortion is not murder. Sick and evil. Also dishonest. I wonder what it’s like to not only spread lies, but to lie to yourself. What a bizarre way to live. :(

          • Ashley Berrios Sanchez

            You sound ridiculous

          • Ella

            If you were a medical professional, then you would know that these pictures are not of an 8 week fetus- it would be much smaller. You would also know that the gender could not be distinguished.

          • LoveTheLeast8

            Actually this is consistent with an 8 week human fetus. See here: http://www.ehd.org/movies.php?mov_id=47

            8 weeks old = 10 weeks LMP so that might be where your confusion comes from.

          • Marny Frantz

            Ella, are you aware that MANY parents give a gender to a fetus without really knowing? Just because she chose “girl or boy” doesn’t mean a thing, perhaps that made her feel better. Working with women in the field has shown me that women use whatever coping skills they can when dealing with loss. Now as far as 8 weeks, you are not correct, the fetus is just this size give or take. At 8 weeks the fetus is fully developed, and is approximately 1 inch long. Look at the ring she has the baby next to. that is a measure of the length of the baby.

        • Everyonesacritic

          Nope. Not fake.

    • Linda DeArmond Tunnell

      You are sick and disgusting!!!!

      • Zemmle

        And your not? You are oogling over photos if dead fetuses…..explain to me how that is the least bit wholesome.

        • Ronda Swanson

          These babies have value, just like the ones Planned Parenthood is ripping apart and profiting from. We’re the sick ones?

    • Christy L

      I’ve had 3 miscarriages, all at home by myself, so yes, we had tiny babies to bury. One was similar in size to the one above and still in the intact sac, so no blood and no washing. One was bigger, about 3 inches long and also not bloody at all and no washing required. The blood generally comes out after the baby. Our miscarried babies had also died several weeks prior to the miscarriages, unknown to me as I do not get OB care and ultrasounds. Not everyone chooses to go to the hospital to miscarry or give birth to a term baby. We stay home and do it all ourselves. I never took pictures, but our babies were perfectly formed. I don’t know why you would think the pictures are faked as any fetal development book will show you the same. A natural miscarriage results in an intact baby. You may be thinking of what a D & C miscarriage looks like.

      • disqus_DyKswkJSY3

        What caused you to believe that the embryos had died weeks before miscarrying? I’m not intending to be mean or cruel. It’s a real question. I’m curious.

        • Keri Johnson

          Development of the baby versus gestational age. They can tell if baby didn’t have this or that as being developed more or measurements to determine age of baby when it passed.

          • disqus_DyKswkJSY3

            She didn’t go to the doc.

          • Keri Johnson

            She had the babies cremated. So a medical professional did see the babies.

        • Christy L

          Exactly as Keri said below, I could tell by the size. For the baby in the sac, it was at about 8 weeks of pregnancy or 6 weeks gestation, but I was 11 1/2 weeks pregnant, so I knew the baby had died a few weeks prior. That baby was about 3/4″ long. I compared it to my fetal development book pictures and descriptions of size to determine when it had passed.

          By the way, it can be confusing, but pregnancy weeks have two weeks added to them beyond actual gestation weeks, as pregnancy is counted from the first day of the last menstrual cycle, not conception date, which typically occurs about two weeks after.

          With my next miscarriage, I don’t think much ever developed as only blood and a little tissue came out, but no baby, and all my pregnancy test lines were very light, so I suspected it was not a viable pregnancy all along. I was seven weeks pregnant for that one.

          For the last one, I had bleeding at almost 10 weeks of pregnancy, which then stopped after a few days, but then I miscarried at 15 weeks. The baby had obviously passed when I had the bleeding because it was the size of the baby that age. Those weeks were a time of waiting and trusting God. I’m glad I didn’t know the baby had passed, as I think it would have been harder knowing and waiting. Most would know as they get OB care and ultrasounds, but I don’t. Those first few months are always a time of waiting and trusting for me, and I like it that way, but it’s certainly unusual in our society, although it’s what women have always done until recent times.

          That baby was perfect though, and I was amazed by the perfect arm with perfect scapula, elbow, wrist, and hand. Truly amazing. Perhaps I should have taken pictures to share on here like some others do, but I never did take pictures of either baby. The smaller one was perfect, too with arms, legs, head, eyes, torso, but not nearly as defined yet as the older baby.
          I don’t mind you asking either. God gave me peace about all of it, as I know our babies are in Heaven and we will get to be with them when we get there!

      • dom

        Well the point is not what do they look like, it is what they actually are.
        Humans made them, they are human. We do not have rights over the life of another human being.
        It is a being, wether it is 1, 8, 24 weeks old, or 5, 17, 50 years old, or wether it looks “normal” or not.
        My baby was born at 10 weeks, and it was a violent miscarriage. I got a virus that makes unborn babies very sick or kills them.
        I lost a 1/4 of my blood and could have died, I had to go to hospital but miscarried at home first.
        My baby was missing the face and a leg, and breaking up very easily … it doesn’t matter…
        I am just saying: natural miscarriages do not always end up with intact babies, mine certainly wasn’t intact.
        I lost 2 other babies very early on, and never found them, this is common, they might have been too small and breaking up.
        It doesn’t matter, they are still human and in my heart.

        • Christy L

          Correct. I’m sorry I did not clarify. A natural miscarriage does not always result in an intact baby, but I do think you are much more likely to wind up with an intact baby than if you miscarry in the hospital via a D & C. One of my 3 miscarriages had no baby, but 2 did. I think the one did not ever develop correctly though.

      • MCK

        Thats not true Chrisy, I had a “natural” miscarriage and there was no intact baby.

        • Christy L

          Out of my three miscarriages, all natural at home, two resulted in perfectly formed tiny babies, one about 3/4″ long, and one about 3″ long, as they had died at different gestations. The other one only had a small amount of tissue, but no baby. I think something was wrong all along with that one and nothing much ever developed. So, yes, you can have a miscarriage with no baby and you can have a miscarriage with a baby. I’ve had both.
          I’ve never had a D & C miscarriage and/or a miscarriage in a hospital, but it is my understanding that it is a similar process to what happens in an abortion, only the child has already died, but the uterus is scraped and/or sucked clean by medical instruments, which would make finding an intact baby much harder than if it comes out on its own.

    • Marny Frantz

      You are so wrong Feli, you obviously know nothing about fetal gestation. I do, professionally, and this is what a baby at that stage looks like many times. Some are born intact in the amniotic sac and until that sac is broken the babies within are visible just as these are. It’s only after a baby dies within the mother and she doesn’t have a spontaneous abortion right away that the fetus loses it’s look and blends with the placenta. WHO ARE YOU???? to tell a woman what she should feel? I am sure you would defend a woman who chooses to kill her child, but you have no mercy or compassion for a woman who wants to hold her child and take a photo as rememberance. Women like you scare me.

    • Sharon Cimato Vallee

      Do you know first hand what a natural miscarriage looks like? Did you ever have one? The blood you see is not with the baby, it comes from the placenta, which comes after the baby is born. I lost a child at 9 months I wish Facebook was around back then or I had taken pictures. A person deals with the loss of a child differently than other losses.

    • Keri Johnson

      I happen to know this woman and it is all true. Also in America, which is where we live, do you know how many miscarried babies are accidentally (or purposefully) flushed? And you think she couldnt preserve her child in glass? There is no blood or anything because she cleaned them up. Blood is liquid and just washed away. Also you can see the umbilical cord in one of the pictures. It’s not the typically blue cord you would think to see because there is no blood flowing through it to give it that color and just the same with veins. And why would there be damage to the fetus?? It was miscarried not aborted.

    • Lee Mordini

      Feli you are amazingly ignorant!!!!! I have had 2 miscarriages, one at 6 weeks and one at 10 weeks. My 10 week baby looked almost identical to these babies – of course there was blood but not as much as you seem there think there should be (!!!) Clearly you have never seen a real baby at this age – of course they have separated fingers and toes!!! I actually cannot get my head around the ridiculousness of your comments – for the love of all things good, please learn some facts and get some life experience before giving your opinion! It’s offensive to anyone who has had a miscarriage.

    • farmgirl54

      Actually you asked some questions I’d like to answer for you professionally. You mentioned “no damage” there is no “damage” to a baby that miscarries, it is simply delivered naturally, not by any force or trauma. The veins would not show because this little one has been dead for a while, no blood coursing through its veins to show up. The umbilical cord is not present, because in many cases, it has been the problem and not given nourishment, in other words it has fallen off, dried up. You asked about the fingers and toes, they are fully developed at this age. There are separated because of the development level. Yes you can see that it is a real little human being. We actually know that a baby/fetus has fully functioning parts at this age and just need to grow and mature to be a viable baby. Every part is already there at this age, nothing is missing. It is not just a “glob” Current science has this evidence. Sadly many choose to believe it is a “glob” so they don’t feel guilty in destroying it. The “glob of tissue” theory is old and false. It is a baby. It is a living being, it has a unique DNA, it has all of the mother’s and father’s genetic make up, and yes it is its own little person. I believe this little person should have the same rights and protection as any other person.

    • LoveTheLeast8

      The images are consistent with an 8 week human fetus. See the fingers and toes in this video of an 8 week fetus here: http://www.ehd.org/movies.php?mov_id=47

    • Karla Stone

      You are very uneducated

  • Amy Sagraves

    Sorry about the loss but gender can’t be determined by 7 and 8 weeks all fetus has genitals resembling female parts until 15 weeks when gender can be establish

    • Chevelle Adkins

      But most women know in their heart what they are having.

  • Elizabeth

    SO BEAUTIFUL!!!!! I thank Mindy so much for doing this because people need to SEE what LIFE is like before they will turn their hearts away from destroying it!

  • kathy

    no I am her mother and I am proud of her for what she has brought to letting people know the truth about unborn babies … the babies was cremated and will always be part of our lives ….
    omg you don’t know her and what you have said is hurtful…. she is a good mother and they pay for there children thank

    you very much …..

  • Janaenae

    First of all I really hope that this woman has found peace w knowing these beautiful babies are now in a beautiful world.
    I hope that someone wouldn’t make such horrible stories up!
    I can’t say i don’t believe this story but j can say that I personally think the pics are not real. That is just my opinion!
    I also can say that I did have a still born or miscarriage if you will. I was 14 weeks and my SON looked nothing like the pics posted! He was as big as my hand. With webbed feet and long fingers. His face was taking shape and you could see where his eyes were developing as the pics above.
    However, he also was almost a purple reddish color and extremely veiny! Because the skin of a developing fetus (baby) is not done developing each layer of skin! I truly feel for families of lost loved ones such as herself but I never posted pictures of my son because I couldn’t bare to look at them until after I believe it was a year? Yes I held him, I cried, I had him cremated as well. But never in my right mind would I of posted pictures trying to make him look beautiful, even though he was to me. People not all but most do not see love when they look at such a tragic loss, they see blood, and veins and it is heartbreaking! So yes maybe she miscarried and I am sincerely sorry for your loss. But I can’t look at those pictures and see how someone can say they’re real.
    I want to, but I just can’t. I hope you have found comfort in whatever way you are dealing and may your babies rest in the hands of our father. ❤️

    • LoveTheLeast8

      Not all miscarriages look the same because sometimes the children have conditions that cause them to pass or not look like others. Also, a child may pass in the womb and then have the body decay for some time before coming out so that child actually died quiet awhile before the mother realizes.

      The images above are consistent with the size and level of development of an 8 week old human fetus. This is sometimes counted at 10 week using LMP method. See: http://www.ehd.org/movies.php?mov_id=47

      • disqus_DyKswkJSY3

        The size and development of the sac, amount of tissue and presence of a significant placenta suggests a more advanced pregnancy.

  • Kleeper

    You are sick and twisted! All you want is attention. You said it yourself on your pictures on your page. “WHY ARE YOU GUYS REPORTING MY PICS? THAT’S OK, THE MORE YOU REPORT THE MORE IT WILL GET AROUND THE INTERNET AND PEOPLE WILL SEE.” (probably worded a little different but you get my point) SERIOUSLY?????? Not to mention how fake these pictures look. I’ve had 3 kids and have done my research on during pregnancy and after. She’s obviously nuts

    • Marny Frantz

      Kleeper, are you a medical professional? A doctor, nurse, provider, pregnancy advocate? Well, I am, and THAT IS EXACTLY the way an 8 week old fetus looks. Get your head out of the sand. You are wrong!!!!
      When a fetus is in the sac it’s perfectly visible, in all it’s detail. When you use water to preserve it for a few hours, it stay’s hydrated and keeps it’s form. ONLY after exposed to air does it shrink, or if it’s a missed abortion (that is a medical term by the way) NOT to be confused with a termination of pregnancy.

      • Kleeper

        I could care less if these photos are real or fake. My whole point is that she obviously needs help. Taking pictures for your own personal reasons is one thing. But to plaster them all over the Internet and add clip art??? Sharing one of the most precious intimate experiences with thousands of strangers?? Wanting attention and sympothy from people she doesn’t even know?? This women is twisted and obviously nuts. Just saying.

  • Beth Whitt

    Those poor babies, I’m sorry you suffered your losses and those are beautiful pictures. I don’t find it disgusting at all. You loved those babies with all your heart. For now you have more then your own memory but pictures for the rememberence of your children you lost.

    • Beth Whitt

      Thank you for sharing your story and memories

  • Sandra Bender

    So not sure how it’s so hard to believe really. I have had two miscarriages. The first came out, in the sac. Totally whole like a small water balloon. I could even see the tiny yolk sac. The baby was 100% visible, intact. My doc only needed me to come in if I didn’t pass everything. I did but bled a lot so I had him check me out anyway. The second I gushed and gushed lots of clots. The sac came out but I could see no baby inside. The testing on each (I requested it with the first and the hospital just did with the second) showed the first was a boy and second was a girl. Chromosomes. X, Y. Those tell us if it’s a boy or girl. I did take the first in because…. I didn’t know what to do. My doctor was amazing. That being said my friend Bethany wrote a book on miscarriage. She posted several pics as clear as these. I’m not quite sure what some are grasping to believe.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0615438539/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1440579849&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=Bethany+kerr&dpPl=1&dpID=41sakyfMb4L&ref=plSrch

    • Marny Frantz

      Sandra Bender, my guess would be they are pro choice and those who are don’t want to “see” the truth in front of them, that a baby is a baby no matter what gestation.

  • Marny Frantz

    Feli, OBVIOUSLY knows nothing about human gestation, and as far as her rational of thinking it’s sick to take photos of your babies, I am sure she would have no problem tearing apart a baby for research.

    • Ashley Berrios Sanchez

      So because she disagrees, you assume she’d have an abortion? That is very cruel and unnecessary. You’re an ass.

  • Kolox

    The word “amazing” is in disputable use.

  • Danielle W.

    Wow– so do some of you even hear yourselves!? A mother values her unborn and cherishes the memories of their few moments together through photographs, and you call it “disgusting”. Another mother allows her unborn’s brains to be sucked from it’s head and it’s bones to be crushed and pulled from her body piece by piece, then dissected and sold for medical research, and that’s totally acceptable!?
    Why are you being so judgmental of a woman’s choice to love her child when you defend another woman’s choice to butcher hers?
    You’re delicate sensibilities are offended by a woman who washes her baby and tries to take the most beautiful pictures she can but not by the one who lets her mangled baby wallow in blood on a table in a doctors office until it dies? Oh you poor “sensitive”, self righteous, civilized savages!

    At least, at VERY LEAST quit the double standard. If you’re gonna defend a woman’s right to choose don’t hate on the one who chooses to love.

    It’s so twisted and evil. God, have mercy.

    Mindy…. Your babies are precious and they are in heaven!!!

    • Zemmle

      Who said anything about being pro-choice?

      • Danielle W.

        My comment was to some of the pro choice commenters I’ve read. If that’s not you feel free to ignore.

        • Zemmle

          I havent seen ANY of them say they were pro choice. So you are obviously just assuming.

          • Danielle W.

            Yep, I’m assuming. But hey what a great place to vent huh? It felt good!

          • Danielle W.

            I brought up the fundamentals to prove what I see as a very sweeping double standard in our culture. Can’t really talk about a fetus these days without it bringing abortion to the forefront of most folks’ minds. Sorry if it doesn’t apply to you and you personally felt squished in my “box” because of it. …But my hope is that some pro choice folks will read it and it will give them food for thought.

          • Zemmle

            At what point do you think a human child is given a soul? Why is human life so precious but animal life is not? Not a vegetarian either, but you can’t very well argue that abortion is wrong when you eat animals. Why are humans so much more important than all other life on this planet. Is it because we have abilities to produce things such as vaccines and buildings an whatever else….It does give someone food for thought….it is sick that someone would dig through and find a child their own body aborted and flash it all over the internet….but I think it is also enough to turn someone who is not pro choice and doesn’t think abortion is the answer into a pro choicer because of the sheer lack of respect to the unborn child. It is disrespectful to the unborn child the life that they didnt even get to live is flaunted and used for attention….and in that perspective thst is you and I many moons ago. How would you feel about it if you didnt make it. Or does your opinion not matter because you weren’t alive…..its a catch 22.

          • Danielle W.

            Wow, you raise some CRAZY good questions. Talk about “fundamentals”… That’s them right there. I have some opinions on those that I’m pretty passionate about (and I’m obviously not afraid to share my opinions, lol) but don’t want to engage if you were simply throwing some rhetorical questions out there and would be put off by a wordy answer.
            Either way, deep thinking. Go you. :)

          • Geneva P

            Most pro lifers are likely religious. If they are Christians, they likely believe in creation. If they believe the biblical account of creation, God spoke every animal on earth into existence, with the exception of man. With man, he formed them in his image, indicating more involvement than the rest of creation which was with just his word. It is also believe that God “breathed life” into man, yet again setting man apart from the rest of creation. I would venture to guess these beliefs are what allow a Christian to be anti abortion, but not anti meat eating. Human life is held as intrinsically more valuable than animal life, a distinction made by God’s role in the creation/life of man.

          • Julie Erickson

            My husband is athiest and he is pro life just saying

          • Geneva P

            Ftr, I am pro life myself. I was just answering the question the other poster asked without throwing my own opinions in there.

          • Yes! We exist and it’s important for people to know that. A lot of pro-aborts like to attack religion in the hopes of crushing the pro-life cause, but it doesn’t work that way. I know from experience and the stories of my pro-life atheist friends.

          • Jenifer Lynn Tessier

            I am not religious, I’m spiritual, I don’t claim to be a part of any religion , yet I’m pro life be a use I know killing a living thing is WRONG , animal human or otherwise !!! Don’t want a baby CHOOSE to keep your legs closed?

          • Jacky Hughes

            Exactly!!

          • Krass

            Human life is more valuable and only an immoral idiot would think otherwise.

          • Peggy Kunze Knight

            Amen to that! :)

          • Tell us why human life is more valuable.

          • disqus_DyKswkJSY3

            Everyone is pro-life.

          • Salem

            How is it not appropriate to eat meat unless we’re okay with butchering our own species? That is crazy. Meat is a perfectly natural part of the human diet, whether you believe in a god or evolution. I’m astonished that so many atheists can’t seem to decide when human life starts. You either believe human life is worth protecting and preserving, or you don’t. If you believe that, then when does human life start? When a person can feel pain? If so, then there are some already born humans that you could justify killing. Truth be told, because of my religious beliefs, I don’t think abortion is murder. I believe it is like unto murder. However, I also believe in there being cases where it should be legally allowed (rape, incest, and for the life of the mother- in cases where she is in physiological danger). I also don’t think that D&E’s, D&C’s, miscarriages and stillborns should be called abortions (or even “spontaneous abortions”). Sure, it might be accurate from a scientific or medical perspective, but it is important to have a stronger differentiation between when a pregnancy is intentionally terminated and when it failed on its own.

            I would think that a belief in evolution would make a person more inclined to insist that human life starts at conception. It’s a pretty clear scientific line. Also, survival instincts and nature would only make a being more inclined to perpetuate its own species rather than take joy in telling women that are clearly not mentally healthy that its okay and supported for them to kill their own unborn children. If we want to become a better species that practices better stewardship of the planet, we have to consider the way we approach unhealthy urges.

          • And oddly enough, many atheists still hold onto the idea that human life is worth more than that of other animals. I no longer agree with that idea. I turned vegan as a result of not having a reason to set humans apart from the other animals.

            Other pro-lifers, including the religious, would do well if they did the same. However I know that it conflicts with their dogma.

          • Jenifer Lynn Tessier

            Wow!!!! You really are ignorant!!! Go get a life would you, stop trolling on an article sent to help a mom grieve and may help others to realize that abortion is fucking sickening

          • Azaleia Coats

            You started out generally upset about disregard towards the mother then made it all about something entirely different for your own personal gain, thats whats sickening. Food for thought.

          • peachnectar

            We are made in God’s image. We are also called to be care takers of this planet. Many horrible people have caused the destruction you see around you. It is not God’s perfect plan for us. People have free will and do as they choose.

          • But why do they choose what they do?

          • Krass

            Humans are pronounced dead when their hearts stop beating. They should be pronounced alive when their heart starts beating. That is anywhere between 8 to 13 days after conception.

          • Tina L Gordon

            Humans are pronounced dead when the brain has died, not when the heart stops beating… hence they will resuscitate a stopped heart but call death when the pupils are fixed and dilated (brain death)

          • MCK

            I had a miscarriage at 7 wks. They call them spontaneous abortions. Your own body aborts what is not right. There were something wrong with those fetuses, so the mothers womb expelled them.

          • disqus_DyKswkJSY3

            It’s natural. It’s human. It’s God’s plan.

          • Leah

            That is so uninformed. Sometimes all that a pregnancy nneds to continue to full term is an increase in a simple hormone. It is not true that there was always a reason the baby was unhealthy or genetically not normal.

          • Peggy Kunze Knight

            This isn’t flaunted. It is sharing. If you believe in God, yes humans ARE above animals! A human is given a soul the moment it is conceived. Abortion is WRONG> it is killing human beings.

          • Josh J Hammontree

            Sounds like your best attributes ran down the crack of your mothers ass.

          • Kymberleigh Korpus

            Zemmle: Generally, human life is more precious to humans than is animal life because (1) humans are generally far more capable of creating (things, art, ideas, love, happiness, etc…) than are animals, and (2) we have the natural and healthy drive to pursue our own continued survival, which causes us to root for our own team (i.e., humans). If you would be willing to kill an animal attacking your loved one in order to save that loved one, then you agree with this premise too–whether you want to admit it or not. The plain truth is that because humans rule the planet, humans get to make the value judgments. That’s how power works. Furthermore, your suggestion that this woman somehow acted in a disgusting/disrespectful manner toward her lost child is ridiculous. The photos are sanitary, and tastefully done in a manner designed to force people to face the reality of the choice they are making if they choose to abort a child…in essence to help people place a higher value on the unborn children. If you, LIKE ME, are pro-choice, then do us all a favor and base your arguments in logic and morality, rather than merely trying to shame or intimidate people that disagree with you into remaining silent. Such a fascist approach can only harm freedom in the end.

          • jeanbean14

            So…compassion isn’t part of your personality, evidently. You grieve in your own way, and anyone who doesn’t grieve exactly the way you do is a fake. That is some amazing level of arrogance on your part.
            Maybe you could stop in at a local funeral home this afternoon and tell off some people, just for fun.

          • Zemmle

            I didn’t say it was fake I said it was crude to be flashing remains all over the internet.

          • Kathryn Birren

            You don’t have to look if it bothers you . But Let me suggest you don’t visit the local grocery store . There you will see displayed dead, dismembered chickens , fish , cow, lamb and pig . I think it’s time we organize a protest , after all its crude to display it openly for the public to see.
            My opinion is that her pictures are beautiful and tasteful . A display of the human baby in one of its earliest forms . It educates people who believe a baby at this stage to be nothing but a mass of cells . It’s clearly a tiny little human .

          • Yes, it is indeed terrible to have to see all the dead animals that people are buying and eating. Since I am obligated to see them(I work in a grocery store), I won’t listen to people who complain about images of these babies.

            A picture really is worth a thousand words as the saying goes.

          • Jenifer Lynn Tessier

            Then don’t look? Don’t click on the link ? And keep your ignorant comments to yourself? The mom of these babies doesn’t need your ignorance , no one told you to read the article…the only thing I see that’s crude is the negative remarks people have made :( SMH shame on you

          • Rachel Laugherty

            Flashing remains ??are you serious!!!this woman honors her child,by Showing pictures!!you are crude!!maybe you find it to be that way BC you don’t want to face wtf is going on in these abortion clinics!! You think its crude to see a human baby !!!what about the ppl butchering these babies ripping them apart and selling it!!!That’s crude!!!this is eye opening!!people all over need to see the pics!!maybe they will think twice before killing them

          • peachnectar

            They are tiny underdeveloped babies who died in utero. Haven’t you ever been in a zoology lab and seen the animals in formalin? Those would be “remains”, too.

          • Marianne Sandy

            But it isn’t crude to crush a baby in the womb and or deliver it live and then dissect it?

          • Krass

            Do you also think it’s crude for Planned Parenthood to be cutting out hearts of babies who are still alive and selling them to the highest bidder?

          • TxTeacherFedUp

            Then don’t look.

          • MCK

            I agree. If a fetus at 6 mos or older was miscarried, it would have a funeral and be buried. Showing these pictures are inapporpiate..

          • Cheerytoes

            silly person, how can we look at all the blood and gore we look at every single day on the internet and on TV and movies – real and fake and say that these tiny humans are inappropriate?

          • Jeanie Marie Branum

            Sorry you feel that way. Don’t look!! It is not inappropriate. Hateful people like you are inappropriate. I think it’s beautiful and meaningful and I’m glad I got to see these beautiful pictures. I hope you or your loved ones do not ever have to go threw anything like this.

          • lcg3

            I buried my baby lost at 14 weeks – a beautifully formed litle one already showing characteristics of our family. Broke my heart and I still greave 20 years later!

          • Mrs.Brown

            Many mothers and fathers choose to have photos taken of their children when they’re miscarried or stillborn so that they can remember them. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. She is proud of her babies and she should be. You obviously don’t have children or this wouldn’t be such a hard concept for you to grasp. She only got to see her babies this one time, obviously she is going to want to take pictures and any proud parent is going to want to share them. You shouldn’t be so quick to judge a path you haven’t walked. Next time you want to leave a rude comment, just don’t. The world is full of enough hate without you adding to it.

          • Nita Clark

            And maybe u just don’t understand the love for a child. Any child…as the saying goes keep ur ugly opinions to yourself….crap or get off the pot Mindy ur babies are beautiful…and I’m proud to say that u are beautiful to share ur grief with us God Bless u in ur.losses

          • Andi

            People show dead bodies, on TV, and the internet all the time, how is this different just because it wasn’t a fully formed infant or an adult, it wasn’t caused by some violent force like another shooting or buildings blown up, or even a part in a movie to add drama ? All of that is ok but, a woman showing her beautiful, yes dead, but beautiful little baby to help others see where a life is developed to at that amount of gestation that’s a problem for you? Your priorities a little confused. Did you know There are actually special photagraphers that come to the hospital if you deliver still born or your baby dies shortly after just so the families of the loved babies can have one lasting memory of them the organization is now I lay me down to sleep (NILMDTS). I had a miscarriage about 3 years ago and I was 12 weeks along, the miscarriage was horrific I was too far along to pass it naturally they gave me some tablets on a Thursday night to put behind my cervix and I contracted all weekend long until Monday when I had to have a D&C after an entire weekend of passing softball sized clots and tissues. I wish I had my babies little body, all I could think the entire time was that I was flushing my baby down the toilet, “was it somewhere in that last mass” ? I still don’t know, they told me the tissue inside of me that they removed was already decaying but, they didn’t tell me if the actual baby was in there or if I had already delivered it. I will never know if it was a girl or a boy. I almost wished I was further along if it had to happen so I would have had the closure of a little body to bury, and pictures, but I have nothing but a memory of lots of blood and the absolute dread that my baby was being flushed :( then the fear of an emergency D&C because I was hemorrhaging. God forbid this ever happen to you I’m sure you would feel very different about the idea of seeing your dead baby being crude!!

          • julie

            I had a late term miscarriage at 19 weeks. Because I had not yet reached 20 weeks my baby was not considered as a death but a miscarriage.
            I found out December 20th and had to wait until the 24th to go through full blown induced labor. My wonderful doctor was here when it happened but had to leave for a couple days. I wasn’t about to go through it with anyone else and i absolutely refused a D&C. Emily had died the week before and having only been in there a little more than a week the nurses suggested that I not see here because.after a week there’s alot of deterioration. I regret to this day that I didn’t see her for the closure.
            I think it’s great that this mom has preserved memories but It seems like these tiny babies are in really good condition despite having passed quite a bit of time ahead of being born. I’m not doubting this but if my baby had so much deterioration in such a short time it just seems odd.
            To those that have never experienced a miscarriage, especially late term, please don’t ever question the emotions of that mother or tell them that it was for the best or at least it wasn’t a baby yet.

          • Honeybadger

            God bless you sister…

          • Debi Berard Krahling

            Abortionists would call this baby “remains”. I believe that we call
            our dead bodies “corpse” and the same respect is due the little baby.

          • mindy

            Ive ppassed the mental grieving when I chopped all my hair off and went into darkness. Me sharing my babies has already helped so many and that is why I did this. Not for me, for others to find peace, others to see true life when we are lied to saying its just blood clots and tissue.

          • Ellen Jaime-Bordois

            You do not have to justify sharing your babies to anyone. You have a right to post whatever you please just like the rest of us. I am SICK AND TIRED of seeing the butchered babies all over the media. Your babies are beautiful, take comfort in that they are in God’s embrace. I used to be a pro-life activist, yes, I picketed the butcher clinics back in the 80’s. One day, I was 7 months pregnant with my 5th child, I was in front of the clinic in Cherry Hill, NJ. I have proof of this as I was in the newspaper and saved the article. A young girl walked past me all cocky and ready to murder her child. When she walked out, she was broken!!! I told God that I just could not do it anymore. He showed me the babies souls lifting off the buildings and told me not to worry about the babies, that they are with Him. He told me to help their mothers. That was the last day I picketed and marched. I do not give two craps if any of you do not believe me. I KNOW what I experienced!!

          • minxcomix

            Dear Ellen, what a precious loving heart you have. God calls us all to fight different battles in this war and at different times we are called to do different things based on what He knows of us. You have an open heart to His call. I am glad you are reaching out to post-abortive moms, they need so much healing! Thank you for your testimony about seeing the babies. xoxo Paula

          • Tasha

            Thank you. I hated when people told me not to be upset over blood clots.

          • Kelli Atteberry

            I’ve been there… 3 agonizing times. Each one broke my heart over and over. I know the pain you are in and the emotional rollercoaster following a mc. If you need someone to talk to, to vent to or any advice, please don’t hesitate to reach out to me. Some folks that have not experienced such tragedy often times have difficulty empathizing or sympathizing with mc.

          • Danielle W.

            Yep, I’m assuming. But whew that vent sure felt cathartic! Better than my morning cuppa. :)

          • Darla Allgood

            Thank u for shareing these pictures of a previous life!! the day a baby is conceived its a life. ‘I knew you before I formed u in a mother’s womb” the joy to know u will see your baby again and hold him or her in your arms!!

          • Darla Allgood

            Thank you for shareing these precious pictures of this little life!! Before I knew you you were formed in your mothers womb” a baby is a life when it is conceived!! The joy to know one day u will get to hold this child in your arms while Jesus takes care of this child!!

          • Tina L Gordon

            Can people stop misusing a quote that refers to Jeremiah ONLY…. truly shows those that haven’t read, or who do not understand, their bible

          • Kim

            Narcissism can be a disease ya know. I would have that checked out ;)

          • prolifemama

            @Zemmie – #TRUTH’s comment certainly has a pro-“choice” ring to it…I think s/he is expressing support for people who choose abortion under certain circumstances.

      • farmgirl54

        So where do you stand?

      • julie

        Actually you can look above an there’s 1 without even looking for any others.

    • Melissa Frankenberger

      BEAUTIFULLY SAID DANIELLE…thank god you called it like it was…people should just stop talking to this zemmle person alls its doing is feeding the serpent …

    • Judy Mortenson Gilmer Beach

      I totally agree!

    • Erin Davis

      Love love love your message Danielle! I am a pro choicer (actually I have very mixed feelings)but I happen to think that these photos are an INCREDIBLE testament to a mother’s love for her babies at ANY stage of their existence. How awful that there are some that see no value in these lives or the message that their mother is sending out! Indeed don’t hate on the one who chooses love! Beautifully said!

      • Danielle W.

        You seem like a cool person Erin. :) thanks for your words.

      • Rhonda Phillips

        Erin: It’s good you have mixed feelings about abortion. As you can see, human life, even at it’s smallest, is valuable. A civilized society protects it’s most vulnerable rather than allow some to be killed in the name of Choice.

      • jkemp46

        I think our society has just gone way too far off the map with this one. I could see maybe for incest, rape or the mothers life…and that would be done very, very early on but now days it’s for conveience. If you’re going to make a choice, it should be made before you have sex. Sex should not be taken lightly. People need to take responsibility for their actions. What about all the women who have abortions and then have to live with the consiquences the rest of their lives? It’s not what they think it is. Once the abortion is finished, the disonence kicks in. You try to justify it but your body and mind know it isn’t natural or right. And what about the women who really had no clue what an abortion entailed and was rushed into it just to realize what a horrific mistake she made. You know, Pro Life is not just about the baby…they both suffer.

    • Jamie

      I totally agree Danielle ! Well said! God Bless!

    • farmgirl54

      You said it all! I pray for the ignorant fools posting here, that they may come to see the truth! Every life is precious and valuable!

    • Rachel Laugherty

      Thanks for saying exactly what I was thinking!!!life is so Amazing!this horrible ppl at plan parenthood are evil maggots

      • Ali Thomas

        Why? Why are they evil for providing women with protection, information, guidance, and support? I have never had nor ever will have an abortion, but I went willingly to planned parenthood as a confused teenager years ago seeking further knowledge and I received it. They offered nothing but legitimate advice. How can you condemn something that has helped countless people in their own personal journey of life? Please educate yourself before calling such a corporation evil for allowing women the choice to abort their pregnacies if they so choose.
        I personally love this story. It’s beautiful that she had this opportunity. It is unnecessary and wrong to fault women for using planned parenthood.

        • GuestZZcrop

          Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, Ali. No one has to argue why they feel the way they do. Just as you don’t have to defend your opinion either. Planned parenthood is Great if you’re going in for checkups and contraception, but when women say they’re exercising their right to choose… they’re taking away the choice of another. Bottom line. ;) That’s my only complaint. ;)

          • Linda

            Contraception is the gateway to abortion. The contraceptive mentality, “I’ll take a pill to avoid a baby”, inevitably leads to, “Well, my contraceptive failed, so I’ll kill the baby I never wanted in the first place.”

            Don’t believe it? Here’s a fact: 900,000 babies are aborted in the U.S. every year because of failed contraception! Abortion and contraception are evil fruits of the same tree.

          • Honeybadger

            BINGO!
            Good for you Linda! THis stupid society is so gullible! They actually think that birth control and abortion have nothing to do with each other.

            Here me now! Birth control is the greatest evil of the 20th and 21st century.

            The destroyer of families, the gateway drug of this culture of death!

          • I wouldn’t say the greatest evil, but they certainly rank up high in the list of evils.

          • Linda

            @Chandler:
            The reason contraception is in some ways worse than abortion is because, at least we can have hope that the aborted baby will live forever in Heaven with Jesus! That little soul was breathed into that little child at the moment of conception! So he (and she) will live eternally in Heaven!

            But, because of contraception, the child who God our Lord planned from all eternity that He would create at a specific point in time, will never even be conceived, will never exist! The life that God planned for each person will NEVER happen! “BEFORE I FORMED YOU IN THE WOMB, I KNEW YOU.” God has known each one of us from before the creation of the world, and has loved us before He ever created us! Man has taken Almighty God’s own power of creating human life, and THWARTED it! What horrible blasphemy is that? Thwarting God’s own power of creation! What an eternal and incomprehensible insult to the ONE CREATOR! To refuse to allow God to create a beautiful human being to live forever with Him in Heaven, giving Him glory for all eternity!

            Remember George Bailey, in “It’s a Wonderful Life”? The angel Clarence showed him what life would be like if George would have never been born. What would our world look like if all the hundreds of millions of people who existed in the loving mind of our God and Creator–but whose existence never came to be because of contraception–would have been conceived, born, and lived? And what about subsequent generations, who likewise will never come into existence, but who had been planned by God? Ultimately, God is being deprived of the unfathomable love and glory that would’ve been given to Him in Heaven by all of these billions of souls who never were.

            That is why contraception is worse than abortion.

          • What if someone remains a virgin for life. Do you think that deprives God of love or glory? Is that also worse than abortion?

          • Linda

            If someone offers his or her virginity to God for life, i.e. priests, nuns, monks, etc., they are giving great glory to God. It’s Biblical: …”Celibacy for the sake of the Kingdom.”

            If someone simply remains single for life, without officially offering that state to God, he or she can still give God glory by doing His will to the best of their ability.

          • Don’t get me wrong, I’m totally for celibacy. I’m an asexual virgin.

            But don’t celibacy and contraception achieve the same goal of preventing conception of children? I think that both are pretty good and certainly better than abortion.

          • Linda

            Well, celibacy is not the deliberate thwarting of the possible conception of a child, the natural fruit of sexual intimacy.

            If you’re not using unnatural means to physically avoid conception during sexual activity, there is no harm, no foul. No sin!

            God does not call everyone to the married state. He has a perfect plan for each one of His children, whether married or single. Jesus Himself was not married–He was “celibate for the sake of the Kingdom”. As was St. Paul.

            So celibacy is not bad like contraception is. It’s simply a way of life that some people embrace. It can be a holy state of life.

          • What would you say to someone who doesn’t believe in god? Would celibacy and contraception still be different?

          • Honeybadger

            It is a great evil, because it has tricked everyone including children, into using it.

            I mean, ISIS chopping heads off children is evil, but no one will deny that (except obama perhaps)

            But “birth contol” to be “safe” and “protect” yourself?

            Its insidious.

            Sex is the easiest channel that satan uses to get at us. And he has us by the, well, you can finish that sentence, haha!

          • Linda

            Very well-stated, Honeybadger!

          • Linda

            Absolutely, Honeybadger!

            We’ll NEVER get rid of abortion as long as contraception remains “normal” and “mainstream”!

          • Honeybadger

            Or sex is “safe!

          • grannie

            Birth control starts BEFORE conception. When that first cell divides, you have a baby. Abortion, which is nothing more than premeditated murder, is the greatest evil of all time. And we will surely answer to God for it.

          • Honeybadger

            Birth “control” and abortion have the same goal. Birth prevention. They hold the same mindset: I want to have sex, but don’t want the result of sex.

            Birth control, the lie of contraception, LEADS TO abortion.

            PP knows this, why do you think they push pills on 12 year old girls? They want them thinking:

            1) sex is like eating, everyone HAS to have it
            2) you can prevent what sex NATURALLY leads to: new life
            3) if you cant “control” your birth, we provide abortions as a backup

            CONTRACEPTION IS THE PROBLEM! This site is full of deniers of this.

          • prolifemama

            @Honeybadger – Wow! I’ve never heard it expressed more accurately. PP DOES want kids to think they can’t live without non-marital sex. They DO teach them it’s like eating – heck, they even use bananas and cucumbers to demo condom use.

            Contraception absolutely fosters the mindset that the only thing “wrong” with sexual intercourse is the possibility that a child will be conceived.

          • Honeybadger

            Contraception absolutely fosters the mindset that the only thing “wrong” with sexual intercourse is the possibility that a child will be conceived.

            Bingo! I’ve been telling this til I’m blue in the face. Its the CONTRACEPTIVE MINDSET. The mindset that says that “I” will be the one who determine what sex is for , my pleasure or a baby. This culture needs to wake up. I did, so can others. We all need to recapture sexual morality.

            Sexual morality is simple: Sex is penile vaginal intercourse open to life within a lawful marriage. (with some foreplay haha!)

            The irony is that THIS IS FREEDOM! PP would role its eyes, get out their diorama of perversion and claim to display sexual freedom. Its a lie. Freedom without truth IS SLAVERY!

            Tell everyone you know, mama!

          • Doni

            Let me understand this. My niece has a bad heart and should have avoided pregnancy all together. I just found out that she has a brand new baby boy. Only a few minutes old. He’s blue and her heart is stopping. The doc said when they are both stable, he is going to tie her tubes or the next baby and her WILL DIE. Are you saying that’s a sin? Are you saying she should keep having babies till she dies and her unborn children.? Are you related to Hitler?

          • Honeybadger

            My prayers are with your niece and her child. I don’t know what God has planned for her family. Are you saying she made a mistake in having a little boy? Do you think that child, that new life, looked upon by God, was a mistake?

            Are you saying Jesus should NOT have let himself be tortured and murdered in the most brutal way for YOUR sins? Even your venial ones? That would have been more reasonable

            Love is not love without bloodshed. You cant do an evil act, use contraception (use your spouse to stimulate yourself for your own pleasure), to prevent a bad thing.

            I don’t know what your niece should do. They should see their priest. They should pray. They should explore their options. But common morality says, you cant do evil to prevent evil.

            God bless you

          • Doni

            Thank you for your prayers. No this baby was not a mistake, but even if he was he would be loved immensely! Our family is extremely against abortion. Life is a god given gift. But the lord also wants us to common sense. And respect our own lives as well. She lost a baby before this one due to her health and her heart. Should she just not have her tubes tide and never make love to her husband ever again?

          • Honeybadger

            No this baby was not a mistake, but even if he was he would be loved immensely

            !!!!!!!! Even if he was? Wha? There are no children that are mistakes Doni, jeepers…..

          • Honeybadger

            You haven’t told me her condition and it sounds like this is a serious situation, and again, I wish your family the mercy of God.

            Morality is not easy. The way is narrow and constricted. Many are called but few are chosen. So is it a surprise, in this situation, that the right thing to do is painful and difficult?

            Sex, like eating, has a primary purpose. Sex is for procreation. Sex is not for our amusement. 60 million abortion attest to this. Yes, God, in his mercy , made it pleasurable but that is only when it is used correctly, in marriage, open to children. If she was made infertile by accident, that’s one thing, but to mutilate herself? So she won’t get pregnant? Thats not right.

            You are suggesting that your relative destroy her reproductive system, so she can experience pleasure with her husband.

            Her pleasure, her husbands pleasure is SUBORDINATE to the reproductive function.

            Further, its wrong to destroy part of one’s organs so that one can experience personal pleasure.

            I know this is difficult. Was the cross difficult for our Lord? YES! Was it common sense? NO! It was a stumbling block and folly.

            I’m assuming you are protestants. God bless you, but unfortunately you have no theological or philosophical tradition to give you sound advice. As Catholics, we have 2000 years of battling heresy and bad phycology and philosophy.

            I dont think you can turn to anyone in your faith, because they will be just following fads, and the “modern” way.

            I’d say see a priest, but you would just laugh at me. So, I can only say, PRAY!

          • Doni

            Baby and mom are doing well. But my niece was born with this condition and will have it the rest of her life. She has spoken to her clergy, and the entire family has prayed for them. Our religion also believes the sex with your spouse is to show love and be as one as well as procreation and abortion is an abomination! He wants us to think for ourselves. There is a time for every thing and to every season. We do things according to our lords time, not our own. And yes, Christ died for us, but he paid for our sins in Gethsemane and our sorrows. That’s where he suffered the most. I love him and worship him and strive to be Christ like myself.

          • Honeybadger

            God bless you and your family, here is prayers and well wishes to mom and baby…

          • Doni

            Thank you so very much. I appreciate that

          • Doni

            Only premarital sex and pornography is immoral. And of course molesting children and rape.
            May I ask you a personal question?

          • Honeybadger

            Ask away

          • Doni

            I hope I don’t offend, just curious of your feelings. Are you married? Ever been married? Do you have any children or any female health problems?

          • Honeybadger

            divorced, no children. But my marriage was annulled! Which means that it never really happened, ha!

            Of course my background has a part to play in this truth about sex, but my interest spreading the message of the evils of contraception is about reality. My arguments are just those of the philosophy, not personal “feelings.”

            Contraception is the reason for abortion, euthanasia, this body part stuff, and, I believe, the cheapening of life in the inner cities.

            If the ACT that produces life is trivialized missed and trivialized, then life is disrespected.

            I will say that contraception is the greatest evil on this planet….

            (Except for atheism, protestantism, and islam haha!)

          • Doni

            So let me understand you again, you are equal with Christ in the right to judge others and any other religion other than Catholicism is a sin. ? Are you a nun?

          • Honeybadger

            Ah I was wondering when the old club of judge not would come up.

            I evaluate behavior and speak truth. Judgment is for the father.

          • Doni

            And all other religions are also sinners, correct?

          • Honeybadger

            we are all of us sinners, sister!

          • Doni

            As long as we strive to be Christ like as much as we can and repent often. Love and worship the Lord, then I don’t believe we are all sinners. Just not perfect as Christ. And contraception is not a sin, abortion is worse than any sin! Even if contraception fails.

          • Honeybadger

            And contraception is not a sin, abortion is worse than any sin! Even if contraception fails.

            Just not seeing your point here. Yes murder is worse than using the person you claim to love to masturbate yourself. I’ll give you that.

            My point, is that contraceptoing creates the MINDSET of abortion. That a pregnancy is a mistake, that a child is unwanted.

            You will never get this. You have been propagandized too long. The pill is strong in this one!

          • Doni

            I was just going to let this slide because I feel we are beating a dead horse. But some woman hate sex, but they are told they have to do their wifely duty to their husband, or they will lose them. But for most, its simply a show of love. Not masturbation. If you use the rhythm method, that is still a form of contraception. To avoid the birth of a baby. And for many, too many, sometimes even one child could kill them. Such as diabetes. This is not fad thinking. These are medical facts.

          • Honeybadger

            If you use the rhythm method, that is still a form of contraception

            YES! You and Pope Paul VI agree!

            Be fruitful and multiply isn’t a suggesting, sister, its a command.

            Your excuses will run out. A contraceptive culture, even in “Christian” communities, is an abortion culture….

          • Honeybadger

            Heres some good quotes

            I lowered my head, remembering all my friends who’d ended up in abortion clinics. Every single one of them had been using contraception when they’d gotten pregnant. They felt stupid. They blamed themselves. They thought they’d been doing the right thing, being “safe”, following all the rules of a society that had assured them that it would be fine to have sex, even if they were in no position to become mothers. And then human error got into the mix—as it always does, especially with something as emotionally fraught as sex—and things didn’t go as planned. And they found themselves signing checks made out to an abortion clinic, feeling like they had no other choice.

            All that my generation knew about human sexuality had been founded on a lie. They had been told that there was no need to give a second thought to parenthood when they engaged in sex; they were encouraged to think of sex as being primarily about their own pleasure. It was a lie that put women at war not only with their own bodies, but with their children.

            Fulwiler, Jennifer (2014-04-29). Something Other Than God (p. 210). Ignatius Press. Kindle Edition.

            Fulwiler, Jennifer (2014-04-29). Something Other Than God (p. 210). Ignatius Press. Kindle Edition.

          • Honeybadger

            Once a society determines that inconvenient life that results from sexual activity can be extinguished, it won’t stop there. All inconvenient life must go. The Church had been warning people for decades that they misunderstood this most fundamental human act and predicted this error would be bad news for us all. And the Church was right. Accepting contraception was similar to a society declaring that loaded guns are okay to use as toys as long as you put blanks in the chamber. Maybe not every single person who used loaded guns as playthings would have an accident; it might work out just fine for some folks. But that wouldn’t make it true that loaded guns are toys.

            Fulwiler, Jennifer (2014-04-29). Something Other Than God (p. 210). Ignatius Press. Kindle Edition.

          • Honeybadger

            Well, thats the answer of a relativist. You don’t seem to think there is a fixed moral law given by god. Whatever is popular, is good enough for you.

            Thats too bad. But it will come back on you….

          • grannie

            “birth control and abortion have the same goal”. No, they don’t. Birth control stops conception before it starts. Of course unprotected/irresponsible sex is very likely to result in the conception of a living human baby. Responsible sex should be practiced by everyone. Don’t want a baby? Fine! Do whatever you can to prevent it. BUT, everybody knows how that baby is conceived. It’s after the fun and games are over and that “uh-oh moment” appears that the woman begins to scream “kill it, kill it.” There are too many ways to prevent pregnancy for any excuse to just “kill it, kill it.” When my husband and I decided we did not want to bring another baby into this world, I had the tubal ligation. Inexpensive, outpatient, about 2 hours, no time off from work needed. Nobody except my husband, me, and the doctor knew I had it done. Problem solved. That is much different from planned parenthood, which is nothing but a euphemism for abortion…the merciless killing of an innocent, defenseless human baby…or premeditated murder. To cut that living baby out of the mother’s womb, or maybe burn it out with chemicals, or maybe birth that baby and slice it to pieces, or cut into its face to “harvest its brain”, causing such pain and suffering to an innocent life…just because it is inconvenient…I don’t think God will ever approve of such. Once that first cell divides, you have a baby. So, stop it before it happens, not after. It is probably the most selfish thing a female will ever do. Grow up and accept responsibility for your actions, or inactions. Did you know that by DAY 32 into the pregnancy, that little heart is beating? That little human is real, it has its own DNA, its own body, and its own soul. And abortion is the premeditated murder of that innocent life. Planned Parenthood is the largest supplier of abortion in the US, and I don’t think people want their tax money going to fund such an atrocity.

          • Honeybadger

            Boy you are gullible. You want to have your fun with your husband without the natural outcome of sex. Just like a bulimic.

            You are rationalizing your unnatural, immoral, selfish self- mutilation.

            Look at the long story your wrote me! You are protesting to much, lady!

          • grannie

            Sex with my husband is sanctioned and blessed by our loving God. Taking responsibility is the point that you don’t want to look at. “self-mutilation”?? Tubal ligation is not mutilative…I dare you to find the “scars”. Mutilation is when the abortionist cuts that helpless infant from its mother’s womb…leaving it in pieces. Does that infant suffer that pain? You bet it does! Mutilation is when the abortionist slices into the baby’s face to “harvest” its brain. Does that baby suffer that pain? Most certainly it does. Or maybe they use chemicals to burn the baby to death. Painful? Oh Yes! Birth control is not forbidden by God. Murder is! Abortion is not birth control…it’s too late for that after conceiving.
            I’m not “protesting too much”. I am trying to make you and other abortion supporters look and think before they commit this sin.

          • Honeybadger

            You are rationalizing your immoral behavior, and it will only be the grace of God that changes your perverse heart. You are not capable of honesty. You are so blinded by lust and, more, pride.

          • grannie

            You don’t know what you are talking about. You go off topic and try to turn it on me and my beliefs. A typical leftist liberal tactic. Call names, transfer blame and guilt. What have I said that was dishonest?

          • Honeybadger

            “Birth control is not forbidden by God. ”

            You could claim that about abortion. You just pick and choose what to call divine law. Sounds like YOU are god. Grannie God.

          • grannie

            Abortion is the premeditated murder of a innocent defenseless human baby. Murder is forbidden by God. Look it up. 5th Commandment. As I said before…typical leftist liberal atheist attack. When you know you have no logical argument, you call names, denigrate, jeer. Just like a little school yard bully. You did not answer my question. What have I said that was dishonest?
            God our Father also forbids picking and choosing and changing or omitting from His Holy Word, the Bible. Revelation 22:18-19. No, I don’t pretend to be God. I just try to follow His word. I am a Born Again Child of God and a co-heir with Jesus Christ. Romans 8:16-17. I have my invitation to sit at the Lord’s supper table..accepted very happily. Do you?

          • Honeybadger

            He doesn’t invite the unchaste. Using your husband or wife fr your private emotional gratification is masturbatory. But why do you care what I think, you are saved, right? So carry on, you will choose what’s good and evil with your lawless, private inerpretation of the bible

          • grannie

            You are one confused little guy aren’t you? Marriage between a man and a woman is sanctified and blessed by God. It’s called loving. Are you saying masturbation is a sin?
            I am saved, I am a child of God. As such I obey God’s laws, and seek to spread His Holy Word.
            Unchaste….”indulging in unlawful sexual activity, indecent, immodest, unrestrained.” Websters Dictionary. A man and a woman, faithful to each other, blessed in Holy Marriage by God can in no way be called “private, emotional gratification”.
            You have NEVER attempted to answer my question about your charge of “dishonesty”. Can’t can you?! You like to make accusations and charges that simply make no sense and you know it. I will pray for your lost soul.. See you at the Judgment Seat of Christ.

          • Honeybadger

            Are you saying masturbation is a sin?”

            What is the PURPOSE of one’s genitals, grannie? Are they for ones own personal 10 minute self pleasuring? Is that why God created you the way he did? So you can, all by yourself, get pleasure?

            No. Our sexuality is for GIVING. GIVING LIFE. There is nothing wrong with the pleasure in its correct context, the married act OPEN TO LIFE, but its like eating and then purging. I want the pleasure of eating, but not the calories. How healthy is that.

            Do you ever wonder why there is a 50% divorce rate? Do you ever wonder why there are 1.5 million aboritons a year? Its because we want the pleasure of sex but not the diapers.

            Again, you are deep in the propaganda of post Kindsey west. Only the Holy Spirit can break into your lust hardened, confused, divided heart. A heart processed and controlled by the propaganda of the father of lies.

          • grannie

            YOU brought up the word masturbation. I was trying to understand what you were trying to say. God created human sexuality and pronounced it good, within certain boundaries. He opposes breaching those boundaries like General Motor opposes putting water in your gas tank. Nowhere in the Bible does He mention self-pleasuring. You are putting words in God’s mouth. AND THAT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN.

          • Honeybadger

            You didn’t answer my question: what is the purpose of our genitals?

          • grannie

            I have asked you several times “WHAT HAVE I SAID THAT WAS DISHONEST?” You did make that charge, you know. You have refused to answer that. Now..Ask God about the purpose of our genitals. He created us. He therefore created human sexuality and pronounced it good within certain specific boundaries. (same sex joinings)
            Ephesians 5:22–31 talks about the relationship between husbands and wives. But, you try to limit God and His creations. His gifts are blessed and perfect. He knows our hearts and souls and He knows our intentions in using these perfect gifts.

          • Honeybadger

            I don’t know what you have said that is dishonest. You are rationalizing. You want to contracept, and, you don’t want your misbehavior challenged.

            So carry on. Masturbate with your friends, what do I care….

          • grannie

            You called me dishonest. But you can’t tell me where that accusation came from. That says you are doing nothing but being dishonest yourself. God is the only one who can convict my heart and soul. And in our daily conversations, He hasn’t done that. Yes, I talk with Him several times a day and at night. I seek His guidance and He has never failed to lead and guide me. Contraception…the PREVENTING of conception before it happens is not a sin nor is it misbehaving. God has never condemned sex between husband and wife, regardless if the time of month is fertile or not. He designed and created our sexual feelings and called it good. With certain boundaries. He has listed those boundaries in both the Old and the New Testaments. You really sound like a Catholic with your belief that sex between husband and wife as something dirty and shameful. God says it is good and right. You have had some bad teaching. You take God’s Word and make something else from it. And that is a shame.

          • Honeybadger

            Contraception…the PREVENTING of conception before it happens is not a sin nor is it misbehaving.

            YOU ARE WRONG. DEAD WRONG.

            Here is why you are engaging in folly and dishonesty: Every christian denomination before the 60s (well, the 1930s for the Anglicans, they started all this nonsense) every denomination condemned contraception as a GREAT EVIL.

            Did 500 years of Lutheran purity get it wrong? So all of Christendom was WRONG on Contraception until, when? The 1960s when in 1958 it became legal. Then its, “oh well, wrap it up boys, and have your fun.” When did Roe happen? 1973.

            You think this is a coincidence?

            See, you are dishonest because YOU HAVE THE ANSWER YOU WANT. You are not interested in truth, you won’t look into this. You are self satisfied with your beliefs and are closed to the truth of sexual morality because you are knee deep in filth.

            Your pride is too great to be honest. So look up the problems with contraception, do your research. But you won’t. Because, like I said, you are satisfied in your sin.

          • Honeybadger

            Read this:

            I suggest to you that, for the individual, the role of abortion will be, as it has been, the second line of defense against harmful pregnancy and the unwanted child. These are contraceptive failures. The societal role will require that we see family planning in a true light: No matter how thin you slice it, ladies and gentlemen, family planning is a euphemism. We don’t intend or desire to prevent conception for conception’s sake; we want to prevent conception because of what follows conception. Family planning is the prevention of births, and as birth is the end of a sequence which begins with the sexual urge, then family planning is anti-conception, anti-nidation, and the termination of the conceptus if implanted. This is the societal role of abortion in the future.

            Professor Irvin Cushner of the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine.[2]

          • Honeybadger

            From EWTN

            For more than 1,900 years, Christian teaching was monolithic regarding the matter of contraception. There was no question and no dissent on this matter. Up until about 1930, a person who used artificial contraception methods was considered to be disreputable and ‘loose.’

            All of this changed in a few very short years. In 1930, the Anglican’s Lambeth Conference approved of the use of contraceptives for just the “hard cases.” This was the gravest possible wound to the teaching authority of the Church; today, the only major Christian church still officially ‘holding out’ against artificial contraception is the Roman Catholic Church and most of its members ignore its teachings on this subject and use contraception anyway.

          • Honeybadger

            More quotes, I m telling you grannie, we have all of us been LIED TO by the devil:

            Humanist psychologist Sigmund Freud, in a lecture entitled “The Sexual Life of Human Beings,” got to the core of the matter when he pointed out that the separation of procreation and sexual activity is the most basic of perversions, and that all sexual perversions are rooted in this philosophy;

            The abandonment of the reproductive function is the common feature of all perversions. We actually describe a sexual activity as perverse if it has given up the aim of reproduction and pursues the attainment of pleasure as an aim independent of it. So, as you will see, the breach and turning point in the development of sexual life lies in becoming subordinate to the purpose of reproduction. Everything that happens before this turn of events and equally everything that disregards it and that aims solely at obtaining pleasure is given the uncomplimentary name of “perverse” and as such is proscribed.[4]

          • Honeybadger

            And Margret Sanger was actually against abortion, but she wasn’t against contraception! That was her big thing:

            “And, despite vigorous lobbying by Margaret Sanger, Mahatma Gandhi outlined the inevitable deleterious impacts of artificial contraception;

            Artificial methods [of contraception] are like putting a premium on vice. They make men and women reckless … Nature is relentless and will have full revenge for any such violation of her laws. Moral results can only be produced by moral restraints. All other restraints defeat the very purpose for which they are intended. If artificial [birth control] methods become the order of the day, nothing but moral degradation can be the result. A society that has already become enervated through a variety of causes will still become further enervated by the adoption of artificial [birth control] methods … As it is, man has sufficiently degraded women for his lust, and artificial [birth control] methods, no matter how well-meaning the advocates may be, will still further degrade her.[5]

          • Honeybadger

            You have, we all have, been lied to by the devil through the universities and hollywood elites.

            Sexual promiscuity and perversion was popular among the wealthy. They could afford to get away with it. Now that the west is SO wealthy, we are all able to be perverts.

            I’m sorry Grannie, its a hard truth. BE honest, look into it.

            My apologies for my harsh tone. So many lives have been ruined by the “Sexual Revolution” that I want to shake the world and say SNAP OUT OF IT, YOU FOOLS!

            But I cant. I can only pray, and speak up. But I should be nicer…

          • Honeybadger

            More:

            Those individuals who use artificial contraception take the critical step of separating sex from procreation. Contraception not abortion was the first step down the slippery slope. When contraception doesn’t work, people think of the resulting child as a ‘failure,’ not an intrinsically precious gift from God. One of the most convincing arguments for abortion is that it is necessary as a backup to contraception.

            One of the prime groups agitating for looser and looser abortion regulations is the National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL), which contends that abortion is a necessary “backstop” to artificial contraception; “Of course contraceptives should be more widely available and promoted; however, in the present state of contraceptive technology, and given the continuing possibility of human error in the use of even the best methods, abortion is needed as a backstop; its use is not preferable to contraception, but once a pregnancy occurs, it is the only means of birth prevention.”[6]

          • Honeybadger

            Sadly more:

            And Frank Susman, the pro-abortion lawyer who argued the anti-life side in the Supreme Court’s 1989 Webster v. Reproductive Health Services case, stated in his opening argument that the ‘rights’ of abortion and contraception actually merge;

            “For better or for worse, there no longer exists any bright line between the fundamental right that was established in Griswold [contraception], and the fundamental right to abortion that was established in Roe. These two rights, because of advances in medicine and science, now overlap. They coalesce and merge and they are not distinct.”

            The quest for the perfect birth control has led to a bald acknowledgement by the pill-pushers that they couldn’t care less if their products are abortifacients. In fact, all of the new ‘low-dose’ birth control pills and abortion pills like RU-486 are designed to cause abortions (see Chapters 31 and 34 of Volume II for further information on these abortifacients).

          • Honeybadger

            To me, this is the most devastating in its clarity:

            There is no longer any doubt that the so-called ‘right to privacy’ has inexorably led from contraception to abortion to euthanasia. This principle is applied uniformly by the law. The identical legal underpinnings of contraception and abortion were recognized soon after artificial contraception was legalized by the Supreme Court in its Griswold v. Connecticut decision. W.E. Barnett makes this point perfectly clear in his book Sexual Freedom and the Constitution;

            Despite the emphasis in the Griswold opinion upon protecting bedroom activities from the prying eyes of the state, it is possible to discern in the decision a rather different effect. Instead of cloaking in privacy bedroom activities in general, the decision can be read as establishing the right of a married couple to decide if and when they wish to have children, that decision being an integral part of the marital relationship.

            This, of course, is precisely the rationale behind Roe v. Wade. It is also the logic now being used to justify euthanasia!

          • Honeybadger

            BIRTH CONTROL METHODS USED BY FORNICATING TEENAGE GIRLS

            Birth control pill or
            intra-uterine device (IUD) 4.3%
            Barrier methods
            (foam, condom or diaphragm) 9.6%
            Withdrawal or natural
            family planning methods 7.0%
            NO BIRTH CONTROL 79.1%

            Reference: Alan Guttmacher Institute. Teenage Pregnancy: The Problem That Hasn’t Gone Away. New York: AGI, 1981.

            This means that four out of five teenaged girls who get abortions use the procedure as birth control!

          • grannie

            Abortion, used by anyone, is the premeditated murder of an innocent, defenseless human baby. A teenage girl, experimenting with her sexuality, often listens to her partner’s lies and persuasions rather than following any teaching from her parents, or minister, or anybody else. And that young partner seldom is prepared with birth control. That is not his interest at all. All he wants is to scratch a momentary itch. Abortion, used as birth control, is a sin. Don’t want a baby?? Fine!! Don’t get pregnant.

          • Honeybadger

            Don’t want a baby?? Fine!! Don’t get pregnant.

            Interesting. You don’t say, “dont engage in the ACT that creates pregnancy.” You say, ” dont get pregnant”

          • grannie

            I said exactly what I meant and meant every word I said. Do you really believe that God doesn’t expect us to take some responsibility for OUR actions?

          • Honeybadger

            wha?

          • Honeybadger

            Artificial Contraception = More Abortions.

            It would seem to be counterintuitive that a wider use of artificial contraception would lead to a great increase in the number of abortions, since the stated purpose of contraception is to prevent ‘unwanted’ conceptions that lead to abortion.

            However, there are two methods by which a greater general public use of contraceptives will lead to more, not less abortions;

            (1) a greater use of contraceptives will lead to greater promiscuity and carelessness, because people will rely on abortion as a handy ‘backup;’ and

            (2) As described in Chapter 99, “The Effectiveness of Contraception,” there are more than two million contraceptive failures in this country every year. Abortion statistician Christopher Tietze has said that the lifetime abortion rate in a country with moderately effectivecontraception programs (such as the United States) will be 1,000 per 1,000 women. This means that the best we can expect in this country is that the average woman will have at least one abortion during her lifetime.[8]

            The two men most ‘credited’ with developing the birth control pill now acknowledge that their invention has led to widespread promiscuity. Dr. Robert Kirstner of Harvard Medical School said that “For years I thought the pill would not lead to promiscuity, but I’ve changed my mind. I think it probably has.”[9]

          • grannie

            you really don’t make much sense. (1) Promiscuity is a sin against God. Promiscuity is selfish and unguided. Just like abortion, which is probably the most selfish thing a woman will ever do. Fun and games, then “uh-oh”. (2) In fact, my second child was conceived by a contraceptive failure. Did I consider killing that precious life? Absolutely not! Today that sweet little girl is an adult woman with her own family, fulfilling God’s purpose for her life.

          • Honeybadger

            ) In fact, my second child was conceived by a contraceptive failure. Did I consider killing that precious life?

            I’m happy that you chose to keep your child. But I can’t believe you dont see that that child, by your own admission, was unwanted. By popping that pill, you were saying this:

            “I’m not ready for a baby now. Come on honey, lets engage in the act that creates babies.”

          • grannie

            You are so far out, I wonder if you will ever get home. You say my baby was “not wanted.” And that is another false charge. That baby was not planned for, but she was welcomed and loved from the minute we knew she was on the way. Why do you feel it necessary to make up these false charges? You do that a lot, don’t you?

          • Honeybadger

            That baby was not planned for, but she was welcomed and loved from the minute we knew she was on the way.

            Yes, but you used contraception because a child, at that time, was unwanted, no?

          • grannie

            NO! NOT….NEVER unwanted! God chose to bless us with that child and you missed the big celebration when we knew she was on the way. Why do you insist on putting words in my mouth?

          • Honeybadger

            NO! NOT….NEVER unwanted!

            THEN WHY WERE YOU TRYING TO BLOCK YOUR CHILDS EXISTENCE WITH CONTRACEPTION????

          • grannie

            There is a vast difference, which you refuse to recognize. It was God’s will that that baby be conceived. Our little plans notwithstanding. We thought “we can’t afford it” “we can’t do another 18 years raising a child”…I was in my mid 40s, but, we accepted, we celebrated, we waited for the day we would actually see that baby’s face and hold her in our arms. We made adjustments in our home, our finances, our future and we welcomed that baby. We had not planned for her, but that had no bearing whatsoever. She was an unexpected gift and therefore treasured. I wish you could have seen her daddy’s face when he held her the first time.

          • Honeybadger

            I’ve worn you out! And I’m so glad you have a child.

            I don’t think you have the ears to hear this teaching. Every christian church USE to teach this until, well, it was unpopular. Now the Catholic Church is the only one that teaches that marriage means that you are, in every instance OPEN to children.

            And again, look at the state of our culture since contraception became legal in 1958:
            objectification of women, look at how women dress now, like whores
            marriage, a 50% divorce rate
            homosexuality
            fatherless children look at the african american community.
            the breeding of designer children
            euthinasia
            disease from promiscuity from the promotion of sex for fun
            60 million abortions

            I’m sorry I couldn’t change your mind. I’m glad you are anti abortion, now I wish you were pro life.

          • grannie

            And, much as you don’t want to admit it, the catholic church has wandered away from God’s teachings. God has never forbidden contraception. When was contraception illegal? We were OPEN to both our children. They were welcomed and celebrated and taught to read God’s Word. Taught to ask questions so they could understand God’s teaching. Unlike your Pope Francis who has attempted to take forgiveness away from God and give it to the priests—-the ones who go after the alter boys. The priests that were simply transferred to other “churches” and allowed to go right on with their pedophilia. Pope Francis has come out in support of abortion and the gay lifestyle. Both of which are expressly forbidden. True, women today do not know how to dress or act like ladies…the parents have failed to teach and hollywood has promoted the shameful display of flesh. Look at Miley Cyrus with her “twerking” and her tongue hanging out, and her parents support and encourage her in her lost life. Parents have failed to be parents. It’s ok to bring a child into the world every 10-12 months, even when the home does not exist and the father is off impregnating every woman he can catch. That is sinful! And that is sex for the sake of sex. Euthanasia is supported by obama’s obamacare and the democrats who are fond of saying, “The elderly should be rounded up and shot.” Sounds like nazism to me. Certainly not what the Loving Father God would want. We are under condemnation now because of those millions of abortion. AIDS and other diseases that come from unprotected, unlawful sexual practices are the direct result of God-forbidden practices.
            You will hate and deny this, but Babylon has been identified by religious(I hate that word)leaders as Rome. The harlot riding the back of the beast has been identified as the catholic church. Your Pope is already heading in that direction. The Booklet “The Beast of Revelation” published by Tomorrow’s World speaks plainly and makes a lot of sense. They provide booklets free of charge for the asking. http://www.tomorrowsworld.org
            You haven’t “worn me out”. I’m sorry you have not been receptive to anything I have said, even though I gave you Bible references and told you exactly where to find them
            I pray God will bless you and yours..

          • Honeybadger

            “…the catholic church has wandered away from God’s teachings”

            And who determines what is God’s teaching, grannie?

            Its you. Grannie. Actually, Grannie is God. Grannie decides who Jesus is and what he taught. Grannie believes whatever is convenient for HER. Not what is true, but what SHE says is true.

            You think you are God.

          • grannie

            There you go again. Calling names and throwing insults.
            Pope Francis has come out in support of abortion and the gay lifestyle. Both of which are expressly forbidden in God’s Word. Pope Francis is currently making the annulment of marriage easier to obtain. Instead of divorce, he just says it never happened. So people can continue to make a mockery of Marriage as invented, ordained, and sanctified by God. The pedophile priests are simply sent to another diocese…never removed from the temptation. I’m not making any of this up…you can find it published if you want to look.
            “Who determines what is God’s teaching?” The Holy Word of God, the Bible. We, God’s children, are charged with study, prayer, and understanding. As you are charged.

          • Honeybadger

            The Holy Word of God, the Bible.

            Hmmm. Who put the bible together? DO you know when the bible was put together, do you know WHO put it together?

            You’re a hoot. The bible does talk about contraception, but it doesn’t talk about abortion.

            you are a boomer. A sexual revolution baby and you always will be.

            Keep your laws off my body, boomer.

          • grannie

            Typical tactic of the liberal left. You are off on a tangent, still calling names. And you are wrong. I am not a “baby boomer”. I was born in 1938. Long before the “sexual revolution” started, in the 1950s, as I recall. When you don’t know what you are talking about, you should be silent. Or you take the risk of embarrassing yourself. 5th Commandment “Thou shalt not kill”. Abortion is premeditated murder of an innocent, defenseless human baby. Please give me the Book, the Chapter, and the Verse that talks about contraception.
            I couldn’t care less about your body. Abuse it as you like. No skin off my nose.
            The Bible is the Inspired Word of God. God chose the hands that would write His Holy Word. Trouble is the false teachers who corrupt it.

          • Honeybadger

            Then Judah said to Onan, “Sleep with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for your brother.” 9 But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. 10 What he did was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death also.

          • grannie

            Still no reference.

          • Honeybadger

            Good gravy I just gave you the citation. Genesis 38:8-10.

          • Honeybadger

            John Calvin said, “The voluntary spilling of semen outside of intercourse between man and woman is a monstrous thing. Deliberately to withdraw from coitus in order that semen may fall on the ground is doubly monstrous. For this is to extinguish the hope of the race and to kill before he is born the hoped-for offspring.”

          • grannie

            It doesn’t matter what John Calvin said. Jesus the Son and God the Father did not say it.

          • Honeybadger

            Did jesus say not to go faster than the speed limit when you drive?

            You are a hoot!

          • Honeybadger

            Martin Luther said, “[T]he exceedingly foul deed of Onan, the basest of wretches . . . is a most disgraceful sin. It is far more atrocious than incest and adultery. We call it unchastity, yes, a sodomitic sin. For Onan goes in to her; that is, he lies with her and copulates, and when it comes to the point of insemination, spills the semen, lest the woman conceive. Surely at such a time the order of nature established by God in procreation should be followed. Accordingly, it was a most disgraceful crime. . . . Consequently, he deserved to be killed by God. He committed an evil deed. Therefore, God punished him.”

          • grannie

            Again Martin Luther is not God the Father or Jesus, His Son. Book, Chapter and Verse Please. I have provided many references to you. Why can’t you do the same?

          • Honeybadger

            Oh. Really, ? The verses where jesus says to use your spouse like a dildo?Thats rich.

            Protestants: make up whever you want .You are no different than atheists.

          • grannie

            Goodbye honeybadger. On one hand you appear to offer an olive branch. On the other you continue to call names and denigrate the honest convictions of another’s faith. I’m tired of you. Go pray to God…have a good conversation with Him and listen to what He is trying to tell you.

          • Honeybadger

            Would he be telling me to use contraception? TO NOT be fruitful and multiply?

          • Honeybadger

            I agree with Luther on this one. But so did everyone before the sexual revolution. Right, Boomer? Keep your head buried in the sand.

          • grannie

            You know…I will never reach you. You will never reach me. It is probably best, since you refuse to provide scriptural references, that we go our way and leave each other alone. May God bless you and give you time to learn what He says.

          • Honeybadger

            You think you are right, I think I’m right. Can we both be right?

          • grannie

            Certainly. At least to a certain degree. We will ask God to be our referee.

          • Honeybadger

            You think contraception is good. I think its evil, can be both be right?

          • Sarah

            I’m confused by some of your logic, Honeybadger. I can completely see how the contraceptive mindset could lead to an abortive mindset, however I don’t think the one automatically leads to the other. Abortion as murder is clearly wrong. Contraception seems to be more of a gray area. I am not catholic (are you? That seems to be the way you are leaning), but I have 4 children age 7 and under, so you can imagine we weren’t actively trying to prevent pregnancy the last decade or so. I have considered natural family planning, but to me it doesn’t seem all that different from any other type of contraception (so long as the method does not “abort” an already fertilized egg). Now I know you would argue that we want the “fun” without the possibility of conceiving a child, but what do you call it when couples who practice natural family planning have sex during the “non-fertile” time of month? I’m genuinely trying to understand. It seems to me that the only way to be consistent with your view would be to say that a married couple should never have sex UNLESS the woman is ovulating, and if they are choosing to not have children at that point, then no sex at all, ever, until they are ready. Otherwise, they are having the fun, without being open to the creation of new life.

          • bigwomanoncampus

            You make a LOT of sense. What is the difference, using a condom, or using NFP? Isn’t the mindset the same, “I dont want the result of intercourse?

            i would say the big difference from women I know who use NFP (aside from really getting to know their own bodies) is that they still understand that a child might result from, well, the act that brings children into the world. With artificial contraception, there is a denial of this. Wouldn’t you agree? I mean, look at any hollywood movie. We see the sex, or the implied sex, but not result.

            I had the same questions as you until I read Humanae Vitae.

            God created man and woman. Be fruitful and multiply. FILL THE EARTH.

            THis is a command of God. So, EVEN NFP can be abused.
            Marriage is about children.

            Look at our culture. Its so selfish. Children make us focus on someone else, little people who are nothing like us.

            Just like God did for us when he became man and suffered for us.

            You still think we should control our lives. No. Our lives are consumed, controlled, and guided by God. Marriage is the total self gift, nothing held back. Too much plotting with NFP is also a sin. Its trying to be God.

            Sex is not a plaything. Look at the results of Kinsey and his sexual revolution. The bodies. The broken hearts.

            NFP is not a solution. ITs a very slender nod to the temporary need to space out some children.

            MARRAIGE IS ABOUT CHILDREN. Thats why there is no such thing as two ladies getting married.

          • Honeybadger

            And how will we know his ruling, sister?

          • Honeybadger

            I’m asking you WHO decided what went into the bible.

          • Pearl

            Unplanned and unwanted are NOT the same thing. I DEARLY WANT to have more children.. but I know that God has not provided what it would take to properly CARE for more children.. therefore I PREVENT the possibility. If God provides the means to expand our family.. then we certainly will… I don’t think God wants me to sacrifice precious time with my children just so can work to make more money so we can have more children that I won’t be around to care for properly.. that is illogical and insane.. IF my husband gets a raise/better job which would afford a bigger home and more room for children… I will see that as God telling us it’s time for more children.. Until then.. I think God understands that we have all the children we can realistically handle. IF..IF that were to ever fail and we DID conceive a child, from day One it would be cherished and loved just as much as a “planned” child.
            Side note: I do agree that BC like an IUD or ANY BC that does NOT PREVENT CONCEPTION is wrong. I never have and never would use them.

          • Honeybadger

            Finally, this country’s most often-quoted ‘sexologist,’ Alfred Kinsey, said nearly four decades ago that

            At the risk of being repetitious, I would remind the group that we have found the highest frequency of induced abortion in the group which, in general, most frequently uses contraceptives.

            I don’t think it is entirely carelessness. As I pointed out before, you don’t do anything putting on your clothes, or going to bed, or drinking, or eating with absolute regularity. And I think it is just too much to hope that we can ever have any contraceptive practice, outside of temporary sterilization, which is going to prevent this occasional slip that accounts for a high proportion of undesired pregnancies and abortions, especially among those of the upper socioeconomic levels.[14]

            Indeed, some Neofeminists see no distinction whatever between artificial contraception and abortion. Kristin Luker, in her revealingly-entitled book Taking Chances: Abortion and the Decision Not to Contracept, says that “We would argue that since abortion has become a primary method of fertility control, it should be offered and subsidized in exactly the same way that other contraceptive services are.”[15]

            And Irene Figa-Talamanca got to the heart of the matter when she wrote that “Abortion and contraception are not alternatives but complementary.”[16]

          • grannie

            It really doesn’t matter what the country’s most often quoted sexologist says. What matters is what God says in His Holy Word.

          • Honeybadger

            Wha?

          • grannie

            You heard me. You like to quote this author and that speaker and that book. All of them personal opinions by some “highly educated” liberal leftist. But the one that really matters; Almighty Father God seems to not be in your study zone.

          • Honeybadger

            I’m sorry about your husband.

          • grannie

            Thank you for that. He has been with God for just over 3 years. I still miss him and I will always love him and I eagerly await God’s call to me so we may be together again. For now, God still has something for me to do and I pray “Here am I, Lord. Send me.”

          • Honeybadger

            You really sound like a Catholic with your belief that sex between husband and wife as something dirty and shameful.

            Haha! When did I say sex , rightly ordered, is dirty? Nice try with the “church lady” comparison!straw men don’t work with me!

          • grannie

            You try to push the idea that sex that is not for the purpose of creating a baby is wrong, dirty, shameful, a sin. What, exactly, do you mean by “rightly ordered”? That is the teaching of the catholic church, is it not? What “church lady” comparison?? I have given you many bible references, which you conveniently ignore, but here is another one. Ephesians 5:22-24.

          • Honeybadger

            Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

            Ah the protestant. Makes the bible say whatever she wants it to say? Where does it say its ok to use your husband to masturbate yourself?

            You protestants just make up what you want. You privately interpret the bible to fit your needs.

            You USE Jesus.

          • grannie

            Where does it say it is a sin to lie with your spouse? I don’t “use” Jesus. But the catholic uses the priest and/or the pope to tell them what God said, and what God meant when He said it. Just like the catholic goes to “confession” to receive “forgiveness” for their sins. Neither the pope nor the priest can forgive sin. That comes only from God after true repentance. And since Jesus came to die for us, we don’t need an intercessory to pray us out of our sinfulness. We are told to talk with the Lord ourselves

          • grannie

            Do I wonder about the 50% divorce rate? No I don’t. Because so many people “marry” for all the wrong reasons. The big parties, all those expensive gifts, the beautiful gown, the attention, etc. But then they say, and I have heard this many times, “Well, I’ll try it for a few months and if I decide I don’t like it, I can always get out of it.” Going into a “marriage” already planning the way out is nothing short of stupid. Real Marriage takes TOTAL commitment; REALLY loving that partner, “until death do us part”. We will have our disagreements, our quarrels, but they don’t mean anything, because at the end of the day, we still love that spouse.

          • Honeybadger

            Amen to that, sister!

          • grannie

            Mercy! I don’t believe it! We have actually, finally found something we can agree on? FYI My husband and I were together 55 years before he was called home by God. First and only marriage for both of us. We were both virgins on our wedding night. Do you also think God forbade the consummation of that marriage? Did you have a wedding night and did you consummate your marriage? Maybe you went to confession instead?

          • Honeybadger

            Do you also think God forbade the consummation of that marriage?

            Where did you get this from?

          • grannie

            Rather than appreciating that we may have found a little common ground, you go on the attack again. I DID NOT SAY God forbade the consummation of marriage. It is YOU who keeps declaring that God forbids sex unless it is for the express purpose of conceiving a baby. You simply make no sense at all. It was MY question that you refused to answer…instead tossing it back to me. You are a hypocrite at best. Goodbye honeybadger. I grow tired of you and your nonsense.

          • Honeybadger

            Goodbye and God bless you, sister.

          • Doni

            It’s not having fun. It’s showing love. Pregnancy can kill some women. And I’ve seen the rhythm method fail many times. Abortion is murder. If not for birth control, are these woman not allowed to show their god given right to show affection for their husband. My daughter in law got pregnant again while being pregnant. The rhythm method is is

          • Doni

            Worthless. If not for a diaphragm,, I probably wouldn’t be alive right now. And the rhythm method failed for me

          • Honeybadger

            Love? Love is giving your whole self unreservedly, fertility included. People are whole, there is no partial people. You can’t love everything BUT their fertility. When Did contraception become wildley available? When did the divorse rate skyrocket?

            You are a secularist, a person of the latest fashion. You’ve been fooled by this sexed up culture pushed by Hollywood elite.

            Abortion and contraception are the same thing, just different methods: sex without diapers. Contraception promotes an abortion mindset.

          • Vonnie5641

            Birth control and abortion is not close to being the same. The egg is not a baby till it is fertilized and splits. Then the soul is placed with that tiny egg that will become a baby. A woman will pass many eggs that will not be fertilized if prevention is used. But those eggs are not humans till they become fertilized. Too many people think that abotion is a good birth control but it is cold blooded murder not birth control. birth control is letting the egg pass with out fertilization. After that then you have a child. Get your facts straight. And it is murder

          • Honeybadger

            We are talking about the mindset of the parents, vonnie, not the baby.

            Birth prevention (control is a typical satanic manipulation of language) is just that: I want the fun without the diapers. Its the MINDSET. The mindset is:

            “I’m going to engage in an activity that in which the purpose is to bring new life into the world. Life that will engage my heart and effort and will and mind until I die. But I will ACT and FEEL as if it is just for fun, for my momentary pleasure. And that will be ok.”

            15 years after the supreme court legalized birth prevention, Roe happens. WHY? Because people think that sex can actually have nothing to do with babies.

            THAT IS A LIE.

            If you don’t want babies, DO NOT ENGAGE IN THE ACT THAT BRINGS THEM ABOUT YOU FOOLS.

            You are all of you fooled. If you think that birth “control” is moral, indeed, if you think birth control can PREVENT abortions, you are a fool, and have NO BUSINESS IN THE PROLIFE MOVEMENT.

          • Candis

            You need some serious knowledge implanted in your brain. This is just an excuse to complain and worry about what other people are doing instead of yourself. There is nothing wrong with contraception. People use contraception to avoid getting pregnant and there is nothing wrong with avoiding getting pregnant when you aren’t prepared for a baby. Has to be the stupidest argument I have ever heard. 900,000 babies being aborted has to do with babies being aborted, not contraception. I would never abort a child if I got pregnant but I use contraception and I started using it when I became extremely iron deficient. It’s labels like yours that are wrong with the world. Instead of changing things into blaming contraception users for abortion, how about you share some real knowledge on ABORTION instead.

          • Candis

            NOT TO MENTION this is not an article about abortion. It’s an article about miscarriage. Instesd of looking for an argument, go do something good in the world.

          • I agree that contraception is the gateway to abortion. I take it a step even further and say abortion is the gateway to infanticide.

          • KMcStew

            Add to that organ harvesting from the redefinition of death, euthanasia, assisted suicide, rampant murder due to disregard for life.

          • Yes. People think I’m crazy for believing the slippery slope, but it sure appears that way!

          • prolifemama

            @Chandler Klebs: I would say that abortion IS infanticide. An unborn human being can correctly be called a baby, from the moment of fertilization to his/her emergence from his/her mother’s womb at birth.

          • Yes, it’s the same thing but humans love to confuse things by different terms.

          • Tina L Gordon

            Correctly by whom? Baby is a term of endearment… I can, correctly, call my 13 year old ‘baby’ because he’s my baby…. my friend can correctly call her motorbike ‘baby’ because it’s her baby

          • Maize

            The Dictionary
            Full Definition of BABY. 1. a (1) : an extremely young child; especially : infant

          • Honeybadger

            An either further step: euthanasia, lethal experimentation, and just plain murder of people who others deem unnecessary….

          • Notice that it’s always someone else who they seem as unneccessary? They would not want to be on the receiving end.

          • Honeybadger

            Very good point, unless a person is suicidal and cynical about life, would anyone say they would want to be torn apart by their mom because mom bought into the lie that sex can be separated from the creation of new life?

          • Exactly. Generally the pro-abortion crowd tends to be filled with those cynical enough to kill others because of a hatred of human life, but not suicidal enough to end their own life.

            And yet, what is the difference between us and others? I see none.

          • grannie

            Wrong! My second child was conceived while I had an IUD. Did I consider killing that baby? Just because I tried to keep from conceiving? Absolutely Not!! That precious baby girl is now an adult woman who has her own family. Birth control has Nothing to do with abortion. Birth Control starts BEFORE conception. And it is not evil, while premeditated murder is!

          • Linda

            Maybe you didn’t kill your child conceived while using an IUD. Not everyone who gets pregnant on contraception kills their children. I know lots of moms who didn’t.

            What I said was statistics have been consistent for years that just under ONE MILLION abortions are committed in the U.S. annually due to “failed contraception”. Just the fact’s ma’am.

            Birth control has EVERYTHING to do with abortion. First of all, the contraceptive mentality is that a child is the “disease” to be “prevented” by popping a pill each day, or sticking dangerous devices into a woman’s reproductive organs (all contraceptives are extremely dangerous to women, hence the skyrocketing rise in breast, liver and cervical cancer in women). So when contraception fails, and that pesky child is conceived (the natural result and purpose of sexual intercourse), 900,000 women in the U.S. get an abortion, because they were trying to prevent the existence of the child in the first place.

            You can check this out yourself, grannie. Almost ALL contraceptives are also abortifacients, that is, they cause early abortions. Sorry, those are the cold hard facts. Contraception and abortion are evil fruits of the same tree.

          • Maize

            Exactly right.

          • prolifemama

            @grannie – By using contraception, we tell God, our Loving Father, that He is not welcome in our bedroom, in our marriage, in the loving marital embrace He created to image His love for us. Jesus is the Bridegroom; we, the Church, are His Bride.
            We should trust Him, and allow the Author of Life to plan our families. He knows our challenges, our fears. We can cooperate with him by not closing the marital embrace to life, by abstaining from sexual intercourse during the wife’s fertile time.

            It is not sinful to deny oneself the pleasure that we derive from the marital embrace; it IS sinful to close that embrace to the gift of life, which comes from our Father.

          • grannie

            What is sinful is bringing a child into this world when you know you can’t take care of it as it should be taken care of. What is sinful is murdering that “unplanned for” baby. God does not forbid birth control. He does forbid murder! No, God is welcome in every room of our house. God is praised and thanked for His beautiful blessings. That includes the perfectly acceptable use of birth control. Bringing a child into the world, and allowing that precious life to starve, suffer any and all pain unnecessarily, go without proper upbringing…that is sinful.

          • Maize

            “What is sinful is bringing a child into this world when you know you can’t take care of it as it should be taken care of.”

            That is a problem only for people with zero faith , no family, no friends, no self respect.

          • grannie

            I don’t think the way you think. There are too many children on welfare, going hungry, do not have proper dress or proper safe housing or decent education. Why? Mostly because mama gives birth about every 10-12 months.
            God gave us brains to think and to use. He does not expect us to bring children into this wicked world and depend on welfare and government freebies to take care of them. He expects us to have a little responsibility. Did you read about the mother who drowned 2 of her small children and was caught by her mother trying to drown the 3rd? She said it was because she was afraid they and she would not be loved. That happened just 2 days ago. They were on welfare.

          • Linda

            So they were on welfare. The mother was insane. Are you trying to say that disobeying God’s mandate to NOT USE artificial means to prevent conception, is necessary so disturbed people don’t kill their children?

          • grannie

            Please tell me where in God’s Holy Word He gives the mandate to not use “artificial means to prevent conception”. Furnish the Book, the Chapter and the Verse please.

          • Linda

            grannie: I suggest you read the book, “The Bible and Birth Control”. You will see that EVERY Christian denomination forcefully condemned contraception as intrinsically evil, as the Bible many times confirmed!

            It was only in 1930, nearly 2,000 years after Christ, that the first Protestant denomination (Episcopalian), decided that “limited” birth control was suddenly “not sinful”. Well, that began what always begins: THE SLIPPERY SLOPE. Now every Protestant church accepts artificial contraception as not sinful. What was understood to be a grave sin and a sacreligious insult to God the Creator, the ONLY Author of life–became acceptable, under the “authority” of man, divorced from God’s clear Commandment: “Be fruitflul and multiply”. Not: “Be sterile and contracept”.

            If a married couple can’t “bring a child into the world” because of finances, then the only lawful thing to do is to ABSTAIN periodically from sexual intercourse! The most simple, and natural, answer!

          • grannie

            Please give me the Book, the Chapter and the Verse in the Bible that confirms that conception is intrinsically evil. I have been “:fruitful and multiplied” to the best of my ability and God knows that. I would guess that you are Catholic since you condemn the Protestants who take the Bible quite literally. It is a greater sin to be fruitful and multiply past the point of logical ability to care for and support. We have been given a brain by God The Father and we are expected to use it. God talks about being fruitful in many more ways than just procreating. The command was given to Adam and Eve who, at that time, were the only people on earth. Do you believe that God the Father is a logical thinking God? Do you believe He wants His children to suffer? I’m not referring to “man’s logic” which is too often self-serving.

          • GuestZZcrop

            And like I said, you’re entitled to your opinion. As I am mine. ; ) I personally would never and could never have an abortion. I did however, take birth control to stop any egg from attaching itself to my uterine wall. Had that not worked, I would NOT have killed my baby. You don’t know me, I don’t know you. So kindly refrain from any attempt to know my mindset! Good day & Good bye. (Mother of 3, Grandma to 6)

        • Honeybadger

          “…helped countless people in their own personal journey of life?
          HAHA!

          Oh, PP LOVES confused teanagers! They love to fill em full of birth control and different sex positions, and then welcome you back 9 months later for your secret abortion.

          You have been fooled, Ali

          • Ali Thomas

            Nope haven’t been fooled. I got the info/practices I needed to practice safe sex and holy moly guess what?? I haven’t gotten pregnant because I’m not an ignorant idiot! I now get to choose when exactly I want to become a mother! like when my husband and I are ready to provide a secure, safe and loving environment for our child. Jeez who would have guessed that a little education could have given me my own choice over my body and what I do with it?

          • Honeybadger

            Keep it up. Keep believing that sex is safe. Keep thinking you need “protection” from your husband. Keep masturbating together and pretending you are married.

            Keep it up. See what a little time and “education” might get you! With your attitude, you are what I like to call a “future post abortive.”

        • grannie

          The evil comes when they abort a baby simply because it is inconvenient. Birth Control does Not include the premeditated murder of an innocent, defenseless human baby.

          • Linda

            See my reply above to Chandler. Birth control a.k.a. “life prevention chemicals” is definitely premeditated. By the way, Grannie, nearly ALL birth control chemicals, pills, devices, are also abortifacients.

          • grannie

            Birth control chemicals, pills, devices are meant to prevent conception from occurring. That is NOT the same thing as cutting a living baby out of the womb, stabbing it in the back of the neck, slicing open its face to “harvest” its brain. And there are too many ways to prevent pregnancy to begin with. When my husband and I decided we did not want to bring another child into the world, I had the tubal ligation. Very inexpensive, outpatient, took about 2 hours, no time off work needed…problem solved. Your excuses won’t stand before God.

          • Linda

            What do you mean, “won’t stand before God”? God condemns contraception. He instantly killed Onan on the spot for “spilling his seed”.

            Surgically mutilating your body because you don’t want any more children will be something you’ll have to stand before God and defend. Good luck. By the way, there is no moral difference in the killing of an innocent human being when that person in 4 weeks old in the womb, 4 weeks old out of the womb, or 40 years old.

            Yes, the horrific chopping up of babies for their organs is incomprehensibly evil, but morally speaking, killing a 3 day old embryonic person through an IUD or a birth control pill is still a horrific evil murder in the eyes of God.

            Look up “The Bible and Birth Control”, if you don’t believe me.

          • Cynthia Williams Lermen

            Question: “What does the Bible say about birth control? Should Christians use birth control?”

            Answer: Modern birth control methods were unknown in Bible times, and the Bible is, therefore, silent on the matter. The Bible does have quite a lot to say about children, however. The Bible presents children as a gift from God (Genesis 4:1; Genesis 33:5), a heritage from the Lord (Psalm 127:3-5), a blessing from God (Luke 1:42), and a crown to the aged (Proverbs 17:6). God sometimes blesses barren women with children (Psalm 113:9; Genesis 21:1-3; 25:21-22; 30:1-2; 1 Samuel 1:6-8; Luke 1:7, 24-25). God forms children in the womb (Psalm 139:13-16). God knows children before their birth (Jeremiah 1:5; Galatians 1:15).

            The closest that Scripture comes to condemning birth control is Genesis chapter 38, the account of Judah’s sons Er and Onan. Er married a woman named Tamar, but he was wicked and the Lord put him to death, leaving Tamar with no husband or children. Tamar was given in marriage to Er’s brother, Onan, inACCORDANCE with the law of levirate marriage in Deuteronomy 25:5-6. Onan did not want to split his inheritance with any child that he might produce on his brother’s behalf, so he practiced the oldest form of birth control, withdrawal. Genesis 38:10 says, “What he did was wicked in the LORD’s sight; so He put him to death also.” Onan’s motivation was selfish; he used Tamar for his own pleasure, but refused to perform his legal duty of creating an heir for his deceased brother. This passage is often used as evidence that God does not approve of birth control. However, it was not the act of contraception that caused the Lord to put Onan to death; it was Onan’s selfish motives behind the action. Therefore, we can find no biblical admonition against the use of birth control in and of itself.

            Contraception, by definition, is merely the opposite of conception. It is not the use of contraception that is wrong or right. As we learned from Onan, it is the motivation behind the contraception that determines if it is right or wrong. Married couples use contraception for a variety of reasons. Some feel called to put off childbearing until they are in a better position to care for children. Some, such as missionary couples, may feel their service to God overrides the desire for children at a particular point in time. Some may be convinced that God has a different plan for them. Ultimately, a couple’s motives for delaying childbearing, using contraception, or even having numerous children, are between them and God.

            The inability to have children when they are desired is always presented in Scripture as a bad thing, especially considering the cultural stigmaATTACHED to childlessness at that time. There is no one in the Bible who expressed a desire not to have any children. At the same time, it cannot be argued from the Bible that it is wrong to use birth control for a limited time, or even permanently, for that matter. All married couples should seek the Lord’s will in regards to when they should try to have children and how many children they seek to have.

            It all comes down to this: no one has the right to determine whether someone else should or should not use birth control, how many children is the “right” number for them, or whether they should have children at all. As in all things, we are not to judge others or cause brothers and sisters in Christ to stumble, spiritually speaking.

            Note – the principles outlined in this articleAPPLY equally, generally speaking, to the various methods of birth control, including using a condom / condoms, diaphragm / diaphragms, spermicide / spermicides, contraceptives, intrauterine devices, IUD, or coitus interruptus.

            Also, please note that the bible was written for followers of Christ to follow and have guidelines. If a person doesn’t have a relationship with Christ, they won’t understand.

          • Linda

            Cynthia: St. Paul CLEARLY and REPEATEDLY condemned the use of “pharmakeia”. The “sorcery” he condemned along with “pharmakeia” was the creation and use of ingested contraceptives. Children are indeed “a heritage unto the Lord” and Jesus adamantly said, “Let the little children come unto Me and hinder them not; for such as these is the Kingdom of Heaven.” To refuse, as a married couple, to open the gift of life with every intimate encounter, to hinder His children from being created, is intrinsically evil, and a blasphemous insult to God by anyone claiming to be a Christian. There is such a thing as Natural Birth Spacing, or Natural Family Planning, in which the woman is attuned to the signs of fertility in her body, and she and her husband simply do not engage in intercourse during the very short window of fertility.(Bilings Method) It has over 95% success rate, and the divorce rate of these couples is less than 1%, as opposed to 30-50% of contracepting couples.

            ALL Christian denominations condemned contraception forever until the Lambeth Conference in 1930, in which the Episcopalian Church made the decision to allow it on a “limited” basis. Well, as always, when you condone sin, the slippery slope eventually leads to widespread disobedience to God, and now EVERY Protestant denomination allows contraception. ONLY the Catholic Church has stood firm in the Law of God.

            Dr. Janet Smith wrote a monumental work: “Contraception: Why Not?”. Every human being on earth needs to read this or at least watch her talks on YouTube. Dr. Smith correlates contraception (sex without children) to homosexual marriage (sex without children). Homosexual marriage would never have been an issue were it not for widespread acceptance of contraception.

          • Nikki Baravarian

            Linda…. Sorcery….really? Its called science. Go to webmd.com and look up birth control…ill wait….done? Did you read about how that works, preventing fertilization. Its not magic. Now how about you ho pull out your hand bible and go to ephesians 4:39-32……no corupting talk…be kind to others. Even if someone else does not believe in god you have no right to judge, in fact religious people are some of the most judgemental peiple i have ever encountered. Picking and choosing what is right for others, deciding which parts of the bible to follow which to ignore and which to slighlty adhere to. Seriously, liviticus has some interesting thimgs to say about your cycle, do you know anyone that touches you during your period is unclean and needs to wash themselves, and anything yoi decide to lay on or touch wadh that, because its unclean for 7 days……ps hope you never got a vaccination cause thats witchcraft too…..

          • Barbara Bachman

            Well Nikki, thanks for not judging us! LOLOLOL!!!!

          • JudeThree

            there is a difference between having judgement and being judgmental. you are an example of being judgmental. Having judgement is having the facts or situation in front of you and coming up with an opinion. without judgement we would walk in traffic,toast bread while in the shower, and engage in ridiculous debates with others on the internet who, like yourself and by your own words doesn’t understand the context of God’s word and uses parts to support skewed thinking.
            If you Studied scripture instead of searching for verses that make you feel like you know something, you would see that the word pharmakeia in scripture is interpreted as the ingestion of drugs, poisoning and sorcery.
            Judge that.

          • Doni

            I knew a woman who didn’t practice any sort of birth control and literally had so many babies to her death. Her children were left with out their loving mother. The Lord also expects to be wise and use our god given intelligence while we are multiplying and replenishing the earth.

          • Linda

            Natural birth regulation allows the woman to be in perfect tune with her body’s secretions, etc. She knows exactly when she’s fertile, and can simply avoid intimacy during those very limited fertile days. No dangerous chemicals, no surgical mutilation, and the divorce rate is something like 1-2%, compared to 30-40% for contracepting couples.

          • Ninny H. Fulwood

            I agree it is possible for a woman to know but not every woman understands what you understand which is why more women do not use natural planning.

          • Adam Edward

            Spilling his seed had to do with not following through on taking his brother’s wife as his own when his brother died. Not contraceptive. I don’t agree with contraceptives but we should understand the context of scripture.

          • grannie

            I will keep my focus on the Bible, thank you. And preventing conception is not a sin. Preventing the beginning of a new life is not a sin. It is a sin when you murder that new life that has begun.

          • Linda

            The Bible condemns contraception very explicitly: “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth” was the FIRST COMMANDMENT TO MANKIND FROM GOD’S OWN MOUTH! He did not say, “Be sterile and contracept.”

            So you can stick with the Bible, but you are disobeying God’s clear commandment if you use contraception. (That’s the hard truth in our Culture of Death society).

            i suggest you read the book: “The Bible and Birth Control”. You will see that every Christian denomination and every Christian leader over the centuries have vehemently condemned contraception as contrary to God’s law, citing many biblical texts to confirm their position.

            St. Paul condemned “Pharmakeia’ along with fornication, adultery, homosexuality, etc, stating that those who practice these evils will not inherit the Kingdom. Pharmakeia was Greek for contraceptive potions. So be careful when you say, “I’ll stick with the Bible”, grannie.

          • grannie

            “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth” was given to the first creations on this earth. When there were NO other people on the earth but for Adam and Eve. We have obeyed that instruction and then some. So that now, we have children dying from hunger. Children dying from diseases from impure water and nastiness. Children going unloved and sometimes being killed by their parent. That is not in God’s plan. The book you are so entranced with is man’s creation, not God’s Pharmakeia also refers to the drugs that give momentary pleasure, but finally kill. When you PREVENT CONCEPTION FROM OCCURRING, there is NO LIFE TO KILL. It takes some hours for the sperm and the egg to unite, in order to make a baby. It is not instantaneous…per God’s design. Only God can convict my heart and soul…and He has not. I think you have been badly taught by your catholic priests who highjack God’s Word and turn it into their own ideas and interpretations. Like Pope Francis who has taken God’s Word and changed it to His own word.

          • Linda

            God Himself said, “Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you.” God planned the creation of millions, if not billions, of people whose lives never came into existence. Unnatural mutilation of the genitalsin order to avoid having children is hardly God’s plan, or His Natural Law.

            Children have suffered from the selfishness of adults since the dawn of time. Population numbers have nothing to do with children dying from “hunger, disease, and impure water”. That’s because of government corruption and greed.

            You’ll be singing a different tune when God finally opens your eyes–which will obviously be against your will. Good luck trying to defend contraception to the Author of Life.

          • grannie

            “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you.” FORMED YOU IN THE WOMB. A CONCEPTION THAT NEVER HAPPENS MEANS GOD HAS NOT FORMED A BABY IN THE WOMB. A life has not been given, therefore, it cannot be taken. Unlike the women(?) who allow the conception and demand a doctor KILL IT. Conception…conceiving or being conceived in the womb. An embryo or fetus. The beginning or formulation. Contraception…prevention of the fertilization of the human ovum. When the sperm enters the body, it takes several hours to reach the egg. Until it reaches the egg, the cell does not divide. That is God’s plan is it not? He designed and created human sexuality and pronounced it good…within certain boundaries and He lists those boundaries in the Old and the New Testament. Conception is not instantaneous with the sexual act. Designed by God. You try to make sex between a husband and wife something dirty and evil and shameful unless it is for the purpose of producing a child. That is NOT as God planned that relationship. Ephesians 5:21-24 “Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God. Wives submit yourselves to your husband, as unto the Lord. For the husband is head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore, as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.”
            There will be a lot of eyes opened when we stand in front of God’s Judgment Seat. I am really looking forward to it.
            Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

          • Ninny H. Fulwood

            I want to point out that Onan spilling his seed was in effect rebellion against God since Onan was to carry on his deceased brother’s line. Onan, by “pulling out” before ejaculation was rejecting being the ‘kinsmen redeemer’ per Genesis 38:8-10.

          • Linda

            All “spilling of seed” is rebellion against God, no matter what the intention. Onan’s intention was to prevent new human life from being created through his seed being deposited in the vagina. Whatever the method, preventing the conception of new human life is a grave, grave sin, and God will punish with horrible severity all those who practice this vile thwarting of God’s own Divine creative power!

          • grannie

            “All spilling of seed is rebellion against God”. What? Seed is “spilled” anytime a husband and wife come together. A man will eject hundreds of sperm. Only one sperm will be the fertilizer of the egg. If that sperm doesn’t meet the egg, fertilization does not happen. The sperm and the egg die and are absorbed into the woman’s body. Hundreds of sperm die anyway because they do not reach the egg. All that is God’s plan and design. You try very hard to limit God, don’t you?

          • Ninny H. Fulwood

            You completely bypassed scripture on this, Sis. I directed you to the Written Word and you ignored it.
            And in order for someone to “rebel” it is necessary for them to CHOSE to go against God. Onan CHOSE to NOT impregnate Tamar because he did not want his progeny to belong to his brother’s line. Upon what do you base “spilling seed” being a mortal sin? Where would that be written in Leviticus?

          • Ninny H. Fulwood

            Where does it say that? Spilling seed is a sin against God? I would like to know. And you cannot use Onan since he did what he did to prevent carrying his BROTHER’S line forward.

          • Courtney Kay Heise

            I’ve been on birth control for over 7 years, & I am so thankful for it. How does that make you feel? That paper filled book that you call the bible is why I do not believe in god, I will never let a book control my life.

          • Linda

            Well, Courtney, go ahead and be an atheist, but guess what? God controls everything, and even though He lets you have the choice to disbelieve in Him, the day will come sooner than you think, when you will come face-to-face with the God you didn’t believe in, and He will judge you, as He judges every human being.

            As for being on birth control for 7 years, not believing in God is not going to change the fact that artificial contraception–whether the pill or devices or shots–has been classified by the WHO as a Group I Carcinogen, meaning there is sufficient, overwhelming evidence that “Hormonal contraception definitely causes cancer of the breast, liver and cervix.”
            That puts you in the same danger as those exposed to Neutron Radiation, Plutonium, Mustard Gas, Arsenic, Asbestos, and many other cancer-causing chemicals. Wonder how grateful you’ll be for all the years you’ve been contracepting when you end up with either cancer, or the other notorious consequences of contraception: heart attack, stroke, blood clots, bone loss.

            Consider yourself warned.

          • Courtney Kay Heise

            Well for your information if I am not on it, I end up in the hospital. My point is not everyone that’s on it is some scum of the earth. Personally I don’t believe in abortion, but I do feel women have the right to do with their bodies as they please. See, this is why I won’t ever have a religion, because what’s the point? Like you said god will judge me. Also, you can’t pick & choose what to follow, you can’t just follow some of the rules in the bible. People like you are the reason others don’t believe. Call me an atheist, lol. I don’t have a religion. Pretty crappy of your god to judge others. So that’s more reason not to believe, people are so damn judgmental. It’s simple, don’t try to bible thump your religion on to others, it’s no use, won’t get you anywhere. Would you want others to tell you that your going to be judged. No one is perfect. & yeah the depo did mess me up, so currently I’m on the pill. We live & die, why waste our time arguing & trying to get others to believe in something they don’t want to? Love thy neighbor, clearly you have not done so. I hope you have a great day & best wishes to you.

          • Linda

            If I didn’t love my neighbor, I would never waste my time warning you of the devastating side effects of the pill and all hormonal contraceptives. I’ve got better things to do.

            As I said before, if you’re an atheist, that’s your problem. Sorry you don’t like the thought of a “god that will judge others”. God has every right to judge each human being, since He’s the one who created us all out of nothing.

            But I think you should do some research into the irreversible damage that is done to the female body from artificial birth control. Just read some stuff by Dr. Angela Lanfranchi, breast cancer surgeon from the Breast Cancer Prevention Institute. Or Dr. Joel Brind, the foremost breast cancer epidemiologist in the country, or Dr. Chris Kahlenborn, also an expert on the horrific problems women suffer from contraception.

            If you interpret my message to you as “not loving my neighbor”, then there’s nothing more to say.

          • Courtney Kay Heise

            Also, I’m glad your standing for your beliefs & all but please be respectful of those who do not share the same belief.

          • MCS

            Onan was killed because he failed in his tribal duty, not because of birth control itself.

          • prolifemama

            @grannie – Our loving God does not sanction the use of birth control or mutilative surgery (tubal ligation, vasectomy) on a healthy human body to prevent pregnancy.

            There is another way that doesn’t post any risk to the mother’s health (hormonal b.c. can cause breast cancer), while also respecting the sacredness of the marital embrace, and God’s role in the creation of each human soul. That is abstinence.

          • grannie

            Our loving God certainly does not sanction the premeditated murder of an innocent, defenseless human baby. Birth control is NOT forbidden by God. Murder is! Tubal ligation is definitely not “mutilative”. I dare you to find the “scars” from my tubal ligation! Abortion is mutilative! When they cut that baby from the mother’s womb, they are cutting that infant into pieces. Does that helpless baby suffer pain? You bet it does! When they cut into the infant’s face to “harvest” the brain, does the baby feel the pain? Most certainly! I agree that abstinence is the Only reliable way to prevent pregnancy…but how many kids, how many adults do you think are willing to practice it? But, I believe, if God sends a baby to the ones who have done everything they can to prevent the conceiving of a new life, God means that child has a purpose in this wicked, evil world. After the fun and games are over, and the “uh-oh moment” arrives, it is too late to be thinking about birth control. And abortion, used as birth control, is not acceptable to our loving Father God.

          • Doni

            Grannie is right. An iud will cause a spontaneous abortion. But when my second son hung in there, thank god and pun intended, I asked my dr. That’s exactly what it is. I never had another. But pills and spermicides prevent the egg from fertilizing. Then it is just an egg. By the time a woman misses her first menstration and is generally when we question whether or not we are with child, the so called clump of cells as many call the baby, has already formed its brain and nervous system. So is an abortion painful to that precious clump of cells? I would say so!!!

          • Linda

            Yes, that “clump of cells” is an intricately designed tiny unique human being–each individual cell has a specific purpose. IUD’s prevent the already-created little person from implanting safely in her mom’s uterus, thus causing an early abortion 100% of the time there is a conception (which IUD’s don’t prevent).

          • Tina L Gordon

            No brain and nervous system is formed in a zygote by the time the woman misses her first menstruation… the part of the brain that is needed to ascertain pain signals is not formed until the third trimester when the majority of abortions are illegal (except those performed for the health of the mother or incompatibility of life of the fetus)

          • Doni

            Not according to books I’ve read or fertility md specialists. I had to have an ultrasound to find the IUD when I was pregnant. The chairman and professor obstetrics and gynecology at the hospital I went to, showed me the picture and explained where everything was on my baby. Including his brain and spine. I was barely 8 weeks.
            If you look close at Mindy’s baby girl at the top of her head, you can see her brain. The baby jumps with loud noises outside their mother and sucking their thumb by then. How are they, able to do that without a brain? I watched my daughter do all of that at 10 weeks on an ultrasound.

          • Maize

            Zygote is just a name for a stage in human development. Others are: infant, toddler, teenager etc.
            At no point in any stage of human development is any human being less than human. The same DNA is there from conception and throughout the person’s life.
            Dehumanizing infants in the womb is the same as Nazi’s dehumanizing Jews and Colonial powers dehumanizing Africans and the poor of their nations that were sold into slavery.

          • mindy

            I believe that as stronly as I believe the lie of vaccines being safe!

            I beg to differ. All babies have feeling, expression on a face isnt proof of when preborn can feel pain.

            Even so, there are children born who don’t feel pain at all, should they be killed because they cant feel pain?

        • Just_me_and_God

          Simple answer to a simple problem, don’t be a slut!

        • Vonnie5641

          Ali you are the one that disgust me. You would kill an innocent human and feel nothing. what you did was murder and I will not soft pedal it. Murder is suppose to carry the life penalty for taking your babys life you should loose yours. How can you call an organization like planned parenthood good. They give no good information if you need that kind of information then you have a serious problem.

          • Ali Thomas

            I definitely did not get an abortion. If you read what I say you’ll notice I said I have not nor will ever get one. I do not condone abortion as a simple means to a complicated end. I do not condone senseless killing of an infant simply because someone doesn’t realize the consequences of unprotected sex. I do however condone an abortion if and only if certain medical anomalies would certainly kill or seriously harm the infant AND the mother.

            Also, PP does not simply lure women in with countless abortions. They provide information for girls who choose to be sexually active or not, including simple medical procedures like pap smears for those who may not have access or ability to pay for health insurance elsewhere. THIS is why I went in the first place.

        • logicool

          They’re evil for ending the lives of unborn children. These children are alive and are individuals. Using PP – or anywhere – for abortion is wrong. Using PP for general medical advice is fine.

    • Stephanie Rimel

      Well said

    • Maxie Swancer

      Amen Danielle.

    • Emily Clark Reilley

      Well said. She was courageous and brave to hold on to the memories, not to mention sharing with the world. You are right Mindy, God is caring for your babies and they have the most perfect Mother loving them, the Blessed Virgin Mary.

    • Maryjo Hill

      About time someone puts to words what I am feeling thank you so very much Danielle W. Now, I don’t feel so alone in this world of Hypocrites.

    • DiAnna Hudson

      Perfectly stated, these are beautiful pictures. I am pro life!!!

    • Kimberly K. Tracy

      Well said!! I can’t even imagine torturing a baby like so many women do and have!!!

    • Ginger

      Could not have said it better, Danielle. I saw my grandson (who is due in 3 weeks) when he was only a couple of months old in an ultrasound. He was only a couple of inches long, but his little arms & legs were kicking like crazy. NEVER tell me that they are not babies at this stage, because I KNOW they are. It was the most amazing site I have or will ever see. Good for you Mindy, every life should be cherished and celebrated, whether at conception or birth or death.

      • prolifemama

        @Ginger – Yes, they are indeed babies, just as we were, at that very young age. Affixing biological labels to them (blastocyst, zygote, fetus) does not change the reality that these are our children – and us! – at various stages of all our lives.

        Yes, many unborn children are unwanted, and this is sadness beyond sadness. Some children who’ve already been born, are also unwanted. But while it’s not legal to kill THEM, it’s completely legal to take others who haven’t quite made it to their birthdays.

        Abortion makes some of us deny the undeniable – that unborn babies are just as human, and just as deserving of all the legal protections, that we born human beings enjoy.

        Admit the truth.
        Abortion kills children, and forever scars their mothers and fathers.

        Come on, America – overturn Roe v. Wade. Acknowledge the humanity of our unborn children, and grant them the full protection of the law that protects the rest of us.

    • Rhonda Phillips

      Excellent response. Spot on.

    • Cherise H Fleshman

      Thank you for putting it into words!

    • Sonya Trice

      Well said. As a woman who miscarried at 5 weeks, of possibly twins, I find these photos beautiful and full of love. Thank you for having the courage to share.

    • Eva McHale Wilson

      I would have loved to have the same opportunity when l miscarried my twins

    • Denise Olivas Romero

      Amen. I couldn’t have said what you did any better. Yes God bless this woman and the pain & tragedy she’s gone/going through. God has a place for those who love their baby’s no matter what stage of life. God forgive abortioners.

    • Maria Smith

      exactly!

    • JoLayne Ward

      Thank you. I lost 3 myself and I’d give anything to have had the chance to see and hold mine. There’s nothing disgusting about something so precious.

    • Gay Lynn Marquez

      I agree with you Danielle …. Mindy has treated her babies with love and care and respect …. and gave them names … and will see them at the resurrection …. because God is that good …. they will be reared up in Heaven by their loving mother … and hopefully father as I haven’t read anything about the father ….. in Jesus name …. <3

    • #TRUTH

      Your being JUDGEMENTAL OF PEOPLES CHOICES AND RIGHTS TO CHOOSE By graphically explaining these procedures …you dont walk their shoes everyday …

      • Danielle W.

        Lol!!!

      • grannie

        People’s “choices” and “rights” do not include premeditated murder. What about the unborn baby’s rights? That unborn baby has a beating heart at just 32 DAYS into the pregnancy. That unborn baby has its own DNA, its own body separate from “mother’s”. It is shameful that “mother” cannot take responsibility for her actions, or inactions, BEFORE conception occurs.

      • prolifemama

        @#TRUTH – Aborted babies will never be allowed to wear shoes, to take walks.
        Stop making mothers and their children, mortal enemies!
        One doesn’t have to die so the other can live.
        We have both the medical skills and the physical resources to save mothers and their babies.
        All that is lacking is a change of heart.

    • Kristian Kelly

      I couldn’t have said it better it’s sad people ridicule a woman who chooses to embrace her babies short lives

    • Angélica Geronimo

      Very well said. Just so perfect.

    • woodbeans

      I can’t put enough “LIKES” on this statement!

    • Just_me_and_God

      If it were not for Double Standards, Dem/Libs would have no standards at all!

    • Truth be told…. “Pro-choice” folks really only care about ONE choice: Abortion. They don’t care about any other ‘choice’.

    • Corinna Morris

      God bless you, Danielle W. ? Perfectly spoken. By the grace of our Lord and Savior, Christ Jesus, may we all have the courage to speak the truth and be a voice, for those that have no voice. Thank you for being an obedient example, for the rest of us. Proverbs 31:8

      • Danielle W.

        Bless you, friend!

    • Laura McNaughton Grueninger

      Mindy, I truly admire you for your choice. Those babies are a part of you and always will be. I pray for the people who can’t see these babies as perfect little human beings. God apparently needed a couple of little angels at that time, hopefully to bring this to light, and maybe educate more people. Good Bless you and your babies! ?

    • Sarah

      Thank you.

    • jkemp46

      I’m with you sister. This is one twisted world we live in.

    • susieq2u

      No one needs to defend her right to have a baby because no one is trying to take that right away.

    • Elizabeth Boerner

      You are so very right Danielle. I FULLY agree with you. We are living in a modern day Holocaust. People are more concerned about cruelty to animals than the killing & butchering of a human being.

  • Maria DeCiccio

    I’m sorry for the mother’s loss, and most of these pics are beautiful, but the one with the clip art bow was a little ridiculous. You wouldn’t do that to a picture of any other deceased family member’s, so why would you do that to your seven week old baby? I don’t know. To me, it came across as odd if not downright disrespectful.

  • Heidi Stevenson

    “You people.” Just answering your question which is missing the mark.

  • Vickie Solito

    It is interesting to me how pro choice people have issues with these pictures In our country Birth control is widely available. So why so many unwanted pregnancies? Really Be responsible and dont create a child you dont want. Therefore eliminating the need for abortion. Unborn Life is still a Life and belongs to God. Not Abortionists. I can understand perhaps an abortion if the mothers life is in Jeopardy or the pregnancy is the result of an act of violence But millions of abortions as a convenience, No way, This lady lost 2 BEAUTIFUL BABIES thru no choice of her own, I pray that God holds her in his arms and gives her peace.

  • Leslie Piskorz

    Precious little peanuts, they both see the love you have for them and will welcome you home with open arms one day when you meet again! Thank you for sharing your angels with us all…. ♡♡♡

  • PastProdigal

    Shame on you (if you can still feel shame) to call tiny children created in God’s image, “human excrement”. Go away.

    • Zemmle

      Thats what it is! Your body rejected therefore it wasn’t meant to be at that time! How dare you ignore the science of life and call something that wasnt even meant to be more than it was! Gods plan right? God obviously did not mean for that particular child to be born.

    • Denise Eldridge Babbitt

      I’m sorry that you feel like these were just human excrament but their not they were tiny humans with a beating heart at one point they were babies and I am a mother that has lost three babies and yes they were just as much my baby as the three children that I had that are healthy and now adults. They were babies that for some unknown reason God decided He needed back to a mother they are beautiful and precious no matter what others think. Once you have gone through the devastation of lossing a baby than tell me that it was human excrament until than then keep your opinion to yourself.

  • Cathy L Clark

    My heart goes out to you, I am so sorry for your losses. But at least you loved your babies. So many babies like this are just an inconvenience to their mothers and are ripped out of the womb and delivered into the executioners hands to have the job finished if they are born alive. I am praying that we can get PP shutdown and abortion stopped, but I am so afraid it won’t be.

    • Zemmle

      I should hope you wouldn’t want to get planned parenthood shut down. They provide free healthcare to the less fortunate…they don’t use government funding or donations for abortions those are paid for out of pocket.

  • Rebecca Elizabeth Adair

    Really??? It’s a baby not the bodies excrement. You have no right to criticize a grieving mother. I hope you never have kids. If you don’t like what this mother is posting move along. She deserves to grieve in her own way without dumb comments from idiotic trolls like you.

    • SavannahSummer

      they can’t seem to just move along because they think it’s their duty to have open mouth and foot disease…

  • Ashley Davis

    I too lost two babies just within the past year…one at 7 weeks and my recent Anna-Beth at 16 weeks last month. I too was fortunate enough to meet my angels and respectfully lay them to rest. I too also posted real pics of them after I had them. I know some may think it gross our morbid but to me it was my closure and my way of bringing awareness that these are real babies, they lived as we do and they are being murdered. We all need to ban together and speak up for our angels and all the ones before and after that are being list before they can even voice their cries <3

    • Amanda

      It’s not gross. Don’t worry. I’m sorry you lost your babies but glad you got to at least see them. I pray that you may have a healthy child. GOD bless you.

  • Emeline

    Just remember, you once were a “bodily excrement” too. Do I think that posting pictures of dead children is weird? A little. But I have morned the death of a family member and I know that different people mourn in different ways.

    • Zemmle

      Nope…I developed…I was born. There was nothing wrong in my dna or my mothers….NEXT?

      • Kathryn Austin

        Some photos are bad taste but so is trolling. God’s plan, yes, as everything is, but the baby could have been miss carried due to several reasons including trauma and infection. So it is not just excrement, it is a life that died. Just as if the baby had made it to full term, then died in the womb due to a car wreck. You just don’t know, so have some better form.

        • Krass

          Actually I found the photos informative.

          • Kathryn Austin

            I did not deny the informative aspect. But I still defend my opinion that some are in bad taste.

      • tristal

        Oh theres something def wrong w ur DNA

      • Лилия Титарь

        It’s a shame that you did….waste of everything.

        • Zemmle

          Well now your just going against your own beliefs.

      • Zemmle

        Obviously the good Lord above didn’t think so.

        • Denise Eldridge Babbitt

          Since the good Lord above thought you should be here isn’t it better if we don’t fight and we show love for one another. If you don’t want to see the photos than don’t look but respect the heartbreak of this poor woman that lost two babies and it don’t matter why she lost those babies. From a mother that lost three babies my babies were beautiful because they were mine and these babies were beautiful to this woman so please don’t disrespect her just let her grieve in her own way.

        • Virginia Torres

          Oh, so now you are a Christian??? Lol. Sorry but no true believer in God would cheer for abortion!

      • Krass

        Zemmie are you sure you developed? I don’t think your dealing with a full brain.

  • Lisa Jolley White

    It’s a baby not bodies excrements she is trying to deal with the loss and probably also showing others what the babies look like and that they are not just something you throw away and abuse and that abortion is wrong, it may save a babies life if someone sees this and decides not to have an abortion. You don’t like DEAL WITH IT or don’t look

    • Zemmle

      Then why are those and her arguments with others the only public photos on her facebook?

      • Denise Eldridge Babbitt

        You know you don’t have to look if you don’t want to see these pictures

      • Tina L Gordon

        Encouraging suicide is illegal… reported

  • Lisa Jolley White

    Some people are just so wrong. If you do not like what you see then don’t look. Don’t go on someone’s page just to criticize don’t be a troll

  • Sunny Donoghue

    I am very sorry you lost your child. I am grateful you were able to share these pictures with us. I hope that they convert many to realize that a fetus is just a stage of personhood. Raley’s life was short, but had a purpose. God bless you.

  • Jenn

    So precious! Such miracles!!!!

  • Christy

    Thank you for sharing. My Gwenivere and Corbin are in heaven, she passed away at 20 weeks and he passed away at 24 weeks. I too have pics but I cry very hard everytime I look at them. Grief is strong sometimes but God heals my heart and loves my babies, both in heaven and my 6 here on earth. Love you, thank you.

  • muffinman64

    Fearfully and wonderfully made…

  • Starla

    No matter how a child comes into existence they are still a gift from God. A miracle just the same. Just to think… God knew us before we are even born. I had five of them… Well at least five that survived. We must take care and train our precious little gifts until they become of age so we could give them back to the arms of their creator all prepared to serve him.

    • Zemmle

      Do you eat meat? Eggs? Why in the world would you hold one of Gods lives more sacred just because its human.

  • Michelle Marie Murrell

    she mentions she has lost 4 babies plus one chemical??? what does she mean by chemical? is that chemically induced abortion or something else? jw

    • Amanda

      Chemical pregnancy is the term for a pregnancy that can only be determined by a missed period and chemical pregnancy test, whether at-home or an HGC test, because it’s so early on in the pregnancy. Once the baby can be found with ultrasound, the term is clinical pregnancy.

  • LastMomStanding

    Precious babies. That’s right….babies. Not tissue, not a clump of cells. Beautiful creations of God.

  • Marie Dobbs Brasseit

    They were beautiful…..just like all of God’s creations! God bless you!

  • scott kasten

    Tears
    Thank you for sharing.

  • Angie Dimos Gonzalez

    Fake

  • Erin

    First of all…Mindy, I am terrible sorry for your loss. Those babies are absolutely beautiful and perfect in every way, and I am truly sorry for your pain. But very happy for your new adventure with twins:) Next….I have had 2 miscarriages between my 2 live birth children. One at 7.5 weeks and one at 10 weeks. It is a pain that cannot be explained…to lose a life growing within you. But God has his reasons and his ways. Let me preface this VERY LONG post by stating that what was growing inside of me was IN FACT 2 human souls. God instilled those souls into me, into my care, until he deemed that they had lived their purpose and must return to him. There is no doubt about this. Zemmle…..you are the epitome of what is wrong with this world. You state reasons of science and Darwinism for why this happens. And you are most likely correct. It was not their time. There was something wrong. But the fact that you make these statements; that you then sit back and say “next”, tells me everything I need to know about you. You simply have no care for anyone other than yourself. No respect. Because science and God took over means they don’t deserve our respect?? you claim that it is disrespectful to parade their pictures around. You wouldn’t make that statement if you viewed them as human beings and not “excrement”. EXCREMENT!!??? She is entitled to not only grieve the way she feels best, but to show these BEAUTIFUL pictures of her children. And the fact that you are OFFENDED BY THIS EXCREMENT just proves to me that you don’t believe them to be human at all. You, my friend, MAKE ME SICK. I hope you can search within your heat and find God, because you are going to need him. I can no longer tolerate the laissez-faire attitude that we take toward HUMAN LIFE. You are the true definition of HUMAN EXCREMENT in its finest form.

    • Zemmle

      Or maybe I was sent here by God to make you think.

      • Erin

        Make me think about what exactly? Because I can guarantee that you are nowhere near in the realm of God. Always defending yourself and trying to trip people up aren’t you….

  • Lyndsie Duncan

    You know, I was agreeing with you until I realized you are a jerk. That baby deserved to live. I don’t agree with people saying you shouldn’t have been born just as much as I don’t agree with you saying “oh the world is overpopulated anyways so oh well!”
    If I miscarried my baby I’d wanna hold him too! I thank the Lord that he’s let my baby boy grow as he’s supposed to (I’m 29 weeks pregnant). If anything happened at any point in time I wouldn’t care if I needed to go through blood, pee, poo, anything. I’d want to hold my baby. Because I’m his mommy. That’s what mommies do. They do anything for their babies.

    • Eriel

      No, obviously the fetus did not ‘deserve’ to live, or it would have. Consider, no one has a right to life, no matter what anyone says. All anyone has is a chance. Day by day, hour by hour, minute by minute. And this fetus evidently didn’t get that chance. It happens every day to fetuses all around the world.

      • Virginia Torres

        That is so ignorant! Yes this child was deserving, God had a different plan. You need to watch what you say! You wouldn’t want some one coming to you telling you “it’s OK your baby didn’t deserve to live and is why it’s dead”. That is exactly what you are saying to a grieving mother, I know because I was one, I miscarried my baby early my pregnancy two Christmases ago.

  • Jasna Balorda

    There is such a thin line between life and no life at all.

  • Amber Lynn Schroeder

    To me this was a beautiful story. I have never miscarried but if I ever would have I would have done the same. It’s celebrating life. Even if it were for a short period and even though they weren’t to full term it’s still a life to celebrate about.

  • Delores Berg Brouillard

    At 7 weeks a fetus is the size of a blueberry. At 8 weeks a fetus is the size of a kidney bean (ref: babycenter.com). Anyone that believes these are photos of real miscarried fetuses is delusional. The body typically flushes all contents of the womb during a miscarriage – I know from experience – but this lady was “lucky” enough to actually deliver TWO tiny fetuses after miscarriages this early into pregnancy? Nope. This is bogus.

  • Virginia Torres

    If it’s overpopulated then do us all a favor and move to another planet while us real humans live! That is a lie from lobbyist trying to get your money! There are more deaths than there are births and for evey death there is a birth! God is not a fool he knew what he was doing!

  • Rose Brown

    ” I wish my daughter would have been given the chose to hold her baby like this. She was 5mths prego when the baby’s heart beat just stopped they left her lay for 3 day’s before they took the baby. The baby was a little girl my daughter hasn’t been right since. She doesn’t like to be around little baby’s because it makes her miss her little girl very much. If she could have held her like this maybe she wouldn’t be so up set around baby’s..God Bless you honey and I’m so glad you got to hold your baby’s and make a video like you did. They are in Heaven waiting on you to hold them again. So is my Grand daughter can’t wait to meet her and hold her. “

  • Wideawake89

    Do you people hear yourselves?!? Admire the tiny human life. And swallow what pride you have left.

  • peachnectar

    What a sweet woman. I am glad that she shared her touching moments.

  • Dan Triplett

    YOu are an amazing lady!

  • Marianne Sandy

    Beautiful. May you be blessed through this and the sharing of it with the world. Thank you.

  • Becca Dodge

    I call bs. I had a miscarriage at 4 months, that’s 2 months longer. It comes out as chunky bloody flesh. This is fake.

    • LoveTheLeast8

      Just because it doesn’t look like your miscarriage doesn’t mean it isn’t real. Sometimes the baby comes out quickly after death and is intact. Other times, the baby stays in the womb awhile and disintegrates before coming out which may have happened in your case.

      You can see that the size is consistent with about an 8 week old fetus. See: http://www.ehd.org/movies.php?mov_id=47

      • Becca Dodge

        It actually looks nothing like an 8 week old fetus form a viable, scientific site. Also she claimed it was inside her for two weeks. Meaning it should have disenigrated Mine was alive while it was pasing. Also I had a 7 month gestational fetus, almost didn’t look human. The pictures she posted are stiff, and clean. Flesh at that stage would rub away. And on her Facebook page she claims her new pregnancy at 7 weeks she can feel the fetus move. Impossible. She is a crazy liar.

        • LoveTheLeast8

          I have you a top human development site. That is clear science you are rejecting:

          Here is another 8 week fetus / 10 week LMP:
          http://www.babycenter.com/6_your-pregnancy-10-weeks_1099.bc

          I don’t know this woman’s story but I can tell you the image size and development are consistent with medical research.

          And it is possible to birth an intact fetus in the 1st trimester. See: http://i.imgur.com/Wkz9J.jpg

          • Becca Dodge

            Her pictures do not match any of your links. You didn’t say anything about how she had a dead fetus in her for two weeks and why it wasnt decayed. Her pictures are a plastic, latex, or plastine figurine. I’m sorry. She’s duping you all. I wouldn’t be surprised if A she’s trying to get pregnant to keep her man so she keeps faking miscarriages. Or she’s just some nutty religious right wing anti choice pro life until birth idiot.

          • disqus_DyKswkJSY3

            Apparently she’s pregnant with twins now, that she thinks could be triplets. She doesn’t have an OB/GYN, uses the emergency room for medical care. Two toddlers in diapers and a newborn.
            She must have lots of family help, I guess. Some people don’t have children at this rate, simply because of finances. Can’t afford to house and feed them.
            Best of luck to her and I hope her children are all well cared for.

          • Marny Frantz

            Becca Dodge, you are some cruel person. You know nothing about fetal development. You really need to educate yourself http://www.ehd.org/movies.php?mov_id=28 AND http://lostinnocentsorthodox.blogspot.com/p/photographs.html

        • Tiffany Lynn

          I’ve seen it with my own two eyes when my sister miscarried. Everyone is different.

        • Marny Frantz

          Becca Dodge, here is a link. Educate yourself http://www.ehd.org/movies.php?mov_id=205

    • Marny Frantz

      Becca Dodge, that is not true if it’s a complete miscarriage and the baby is still in it’s sac. When the pregnancy spontaneously aborts quickly and is not a “missed abortion” and the fetus remains in the uterus for a while THEN it can be (possibly)missed and the fetus might not be found and becomes the “bloodly flesh” you so aptly named it. These are all variables and no 2 pregnancy’s are the same. Please do not make statements when you know nothing about child development or medical processes.

  • Spaded N Jaded

    Everyone has their own opinion. Let’s just leave it at that. Not everyone is going to agree with either side. Wether you think it’s beautiful or you think it’s wrong, only matters what you think. Not everyone else.

  • Jeanne G Kohn-Kelsey

    I would like to know Zemmle, what right do you have to criticize someone else for what they believe in. You are one person and do not have the right to judge anyone. You are responsible for only you and not someone else. Apparently, you have not experienced miscarriages. I have had four, and would have liked to had seen one of my babies. How I or any other person grieves is their business. I do not find it offensive to post pictures of her baby, or any other person she is grieving for.

  • Sharon Lynn Simmons Elkins

    Mindy Raelynne i just noticed…. I gave birth to my daughter at 30 weeks and she perished 3 hours later. I named her Mindy Rae. I dont know your age but she would be 21 right now. very similar names. your babies are precious. Thanks for gathering up all the courage it took to speak out and be a voice for those who cant. God Bless you

  • Tasha

    I have had 8 miscarriages and I am very thankful to see what my 9 babies (1 set of twins) would have looked like. I was unableunable to meet my precious angels becausebecause my body refused to give birth to them so I had to have surgeries to deliver them and was under anesthesia. I am lucky to say that I just gave birth to a beautiful baby girl in June. People who have not gone through a loss such as a miscarriage don’t understand the heartache a mothermother goes through when it begins. I for one am grateful for this post. I am truly sorry for your loss. Thank you for sharing.

  • Krass

    Mindy, I am so sorry for your loss. It’s perfectly normal for a mother to bond with her unborn child and grieve the loss. I bonded with all my children very early and how anyone could kill that life inside them is beyond me, especially after you feel it kicking and moving. Thank you for posting these photos..

  • Diana L.Davis

    Thank you for sharing your tragedy . I pray this brings light to all who think these babies and just tissue . God bless

  • Kelli Atteberry

    All 3 of mine were just like this photo. So very heartbreaking.

  • Emily Laschanzky

    Wow… what an unbiased “news” article… if you can even call it that. Regardless of the subject matter, the way in which the article was worded makes it very clear that “Live Action News” has a strong agenda… something which doesn’t make a news site strong.

    • Andrew J. Corrales

      Yes. It is a news site of pro-lifers, by pro-lifers, and for pro-lifers. I mean no disrespect, but there really isn’t any such thing as unbiased news anymore. The mainstream media is biased towards secular, progressive, American liberalism. Websites such as this are merely a response–since they’re not mainstream, they’re not the establishment, so it isn’t like they’re brainwashing anybody. In a place with a national belief system, whether it’s official or not, minority beliefs or seeming minority beliefs are ignored, tolerated, and sometimes suppressed, and if you join one, it’s proof that you’re not willing to simply believe whatever everyone else believes. This site has a strong agenda, yes, but it is their opponents who have the upper hand, so there’s no need to worry about bias. If they become the dominant belief system, it will because the proponents of the currently prevailing belief system are refuted, not because of an agenda. All the agendas in the world couldn’t help someone if adults and students are constantly told via schools and TV that that someone is wrong and therefore evil.

      God bless. :)

  • These are such amazing pictures, Mindy!! I am so sorry to hear of your losses but I am thankful that you got to have these moments with your precious babies. Most women do not get this opportunity to see life in such a tiny, yet perfect form. I had a similar experience several years ago when I lost a little one. His name was Indigo and being able to see, touch and take photographs of him during my miscarriage really helped me to heal and it touched so many others as well. Thank you for sharing your story! Here is the story of my sweet baby if you’d like to read about him… http://crunchyfamily.com/2014/12/the-life-and-death-of-indigo-rain/

  • Jeff King

    Doesn’t look like a blood clot and tissue to me! They are God’s miracle of creation!

  • Ariel Jolley

    So beautiful, I lost mine 2 years ago at 2 months it was sad

  • Melonie Colvill

    I dont know whether or not the pics are fake but, contractions, really? I dont think so!

    • Marny Frantz

      Women have contractions when they miscarry, Melonie Colvill. Even an early miscarriage will cause contractions to expel the fetus and the placenta. The contractions can be very painful in some women. It amazes me when people make comments they know nothing about. It’s not a full labor, however labor it still is.

  • ROSEDEL

    MINDY YOUR BABIES ARE SO BEAUTIFUL,,,I WAS IN AWE LOOKING AT THEIR PHOTOS,,,TREASURE YOUR MEMORIES AND PICTURES OF YOUR CHILDREN,,ONE DAY YOU’LL ALL BE TOGETHER AGAIN

  • Cortnee Mosley

    It was truly amazing to see human life in such early stages. They a your precious children who have now become angels. The rude and hateful posts are not necessary. This poor woman has lost children meaning plural and more than one. If it gives her peace to share these wonderful photos then she can. Just because they were so early in their life doesn’t mean it didn’t hurt the same as someone losing a child that’s a few years old. These people that are being rude obviously don’t understand loss. I’m so sorry you had to go through all this Mindy and I hope your heart can somewhat heal. I couldn’t imagine going through something like this. Don’t let anyone discourage your decision to post these. Thank you for sharing your beautiful angels with us and I hope they rest in peace.

  • Joann Wilson

    I wish I was able to see my baby when I miscarried! I struggled to get pregnant and was able to do so through IVF but I was not able to bring my baby to full term. That was the most devastating thing that had happened to us. I almost wanted to give up trying to have a baby. We eventually tried again, this time using conceiveeasy, and we now a 2 year old baby girl.

  • faith shorthouse

    These pictures made me cry. How beautiful these tiny little humans are and how precious they were to their loving mother. How very courageous of her to share their only baby pictures with us. Her loss breaks my heart, but her celebration of their short lives and their value fills my heart with hope that it may prevent even one scared woman from choosing abortion because she feels it is the only choice.

  • Mary

    Interesting that Facebook has removed these pictures from being viewed by the public. What is the problem? They aren’t cut up into pieces for profit?

  • catherine3

    Beautiful memories. I only saw an ultrasound image of my baby before I miscarried. I was in denial. I passed some material. I wish I could have seen my baby but I was too upset. I had 4 miscarriages total. I’m so glad you saw your baby.

  • Margaret Parker

    Thank you so much for sharing the most beautiful photos of your darling children. They are so lovely and I know they are safely with God now and so proud of you for sharing these amazing photos. Life is truly so precious. So many times we hear people describe miscarriage as the loss of a ‘pregnancy’. it is not. It is the loss of a much loved and wanted child. No different to the loss of a child after birth.

    God bless you and give you peace. With so much love

    Margaret

  • Shanae Myrick

    Not accurate of how a embryo looks like

  • Nicole Barron

    and it kills me “they” call them nothing but tissue. Look at the little fingers and all the development at this stage. And people want to murder babies at term or 20 weeks!?

  • Paula Dalene Zuniga

    God bless you

  • Lisa Asbell

    OMG she did not have a water birth or contractions. She has a miscarriage. It’s the most bizarre thing I have ever read. I am pro birth and pro life all the way and while I feel sorry for her. It’s bizarre the way she describes it.

    • Karla Stone

      Miscarriage
      Also called: spontaneous abortion
      About
      Symptoms
      Treatments
      Requires a medical diagnosis
      Often requires lab tests or imaging
      Symptoms include fluid, blood, or tissue passing from the vagina and pain in the belly or lower back.
      People may experience:
      Pain: in the abdomen, lower back, pelvis, or vagina, can occur due to labor, can be mild or severe
      Groin: vaginal bleeding or uterine contraction
      Whole body: fatigue or nausea
      Also common: cramping, heavy or prolonged periods, vomiting, or irregular uterine bleeding
      Critical: consult a doctor for medical advice
      Sources: Mayo Clinic and others. Learn more

  • Lily Lobo

    How is this precious when they keep dying? With each miscarriage isn’t the likelihood of the next pregnancy to be a miscarriage greatly increased? I was always taught that miscarriages are natural abortions because there is something not right with fetus or mother….so why if you know you probably will miscarriage would you continue trying that way? I’m not judging just truly inquisitive. And I do it think dead fetuses are not cool to be posting–unless it’s too help inform those about miscarriages.

    • Karla Stone

      This it’s exactly why she’s posting it…to educate and inform.

  • Lily Lobo

    How is this precious when they keep dying? With each miscarriage isn’t the likelihood of the next pregnancy to be a miscarriage greatly increased? I was always taught that miscarriages are natural abortions because there is something not right with fetus or mother….so why if you know you probably will miscarriage would you continue trying that way?

    • Andrew J. Corrales

      I mean no disrespect, but it might be that they want a kid very badly. They post the photos to celebrate the short life of the deceased, much like at funerals of those who have been born. God bless. :)

      • Lex

        She has 6 kids already. I personally know her…. The baby she was supposed to have in August 2012 she had in June because she helped it along by breaking her own water with a crochet hook

      • Lily Lobo

        Ok thanks for your reply.
        I suppose I can try to understand that. But with so many orphans in the world why not adopt?

        • Andrew J. Corrales

          I could be mistaken, but I personally have no clue how to actually accomplish adopting kids except for when people come to church (and I haven’t adopted any). They might not know either. If they do then it may not have occurred to them. If that’s not the case either then IDK. God bless. :)

  • ^-^

    Sending you love. You are amazing!

  • Kelly Ann Donohue

    I think this is beautiful and loving and I get it. if I had to go through a miscarriage I could see myself doing something like this bc of how greatly I have loved my children since conception and I personally would not have an abortion bc it’s not for me but just like I don’t judge this woman for her photos and her way of loving I also don’t judge women who do chose to have a legal abortion. If it was illegal then women would just go about it illegally and make things much worse for the baby and themselves anyway plus it is no one’s place to judge anyone else. That’s God’s job. Everyone needs support no matter what their choices.

  • These should be posted at abortion clinics to show mother what they are doing to their babies. Even at 7-8 weeks of pregnancy they are little humans. Maybe some people would think different about abortions if they saw these.

  • Kristian Kelly

    Heart breaking to lose a baby my heart goes to you I give you props maybe this will open the eyes of the world I suffered a miscarriage of twins and my heart broke I am thankful for my goodbye maybe those who abort can see this and realize they are babies prayers for you and your family

  • Deb

    I think these pics are AMAZING and shows how truly awesome God is! I applaud this woman for valuing her children and wanting to share their pics even with those who have nasty comments! I cannot imagine the pain of being pregnant and losing a child and hopefully those with nasty things to say will have to go through that pain. I have a relative who carried hers to full term and lost him. No one knows how anyone feels unless they are in their shoes. If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing. I truly hope Mindy’s latest pregnancy is a healthy one! Prayers to you and do not let any negativity affect you!

  • Laura Henning

    What a great attitude ! Although a sad moment on this earth… filled with peace trusting her God to care for her babies !

  • Most people think of those babies as being really tiny but to me they look really huge. They are so much bigger than ants or roly polys.

  • Lex

    The Internet is truly a nutty place…. Crazy has finally found its platform!!! I hope someday she gets the help she needs and dosent help these next two into the world too early like she did her 2012 and 2013 babies

    • Scott Doucette

      We can only hope for the sake of the children she has custody of.

  • Karla Stone

    How did you find all this out?

  • grannie

    Not just a bloody clump of unrecognizable tissue is it?! planned parenthood is a euphemism for premeditated murder of an innocent, defenseless human baby. You start planning your family Before the conception. After the fun and games are over and that “uh-oh” moment appears is Too Late! When that first cell divides, you have a baby!

  • Bryan

    That is so beautiful. Idk how people can argue that @ 7 or 8 weeks it’s not a human life. It’s sad about how they were miscarried but celebrating the short lived life is a wonderful idea. Maybe pp hood can use this to instill some dignity into their operations.

  • Carol Notermann

    I want to thank the woman who cared enough to love her very small child. I had my miscarriages at about three months.. I had three. My gynecologist spotted my problem on the third. He reconstructed my cervix that had been damaged and not repaired after my first son’s birth. I had my second son shortly there after and my third fifteen months later. Since it was a cervix problem, I’m sure they were fine…until…. This was almost 50 years ago now… I still mourn their loss.

  • Marny Frantz

    You better have proof of this Scott Ducette, this I slander and if this woman chooses to she can sue your butt. Be aware.

  • Marny Frantz

    Scott Doucette, if you are making this story up, be aware that this woman will have a case against you for defamation. You better be able to back this up. Just a little friendly legal advice before you find yourself in a bad situation. It might be a good idea to remove this post.

  • Mary Sekera

    Oh, the love that Mindy has for her little ones!! How beautiful and precious Baby Riley and Baby Annabelle are! Mindy, thank you so much for sharing your little ones photos. I cried when I “felt” the tremendous LOVE, you, as their Mother, have for them! May God richly bless you!

  • Gail Rupprecht

    Pregnancy Resource Centers have told women and men this truth for years; that is why Pro-abortionists have tried over and over again to malign and close down Centers where the truth has been and is being told. Thank you for your love and courage to tell the
    world the unadulterated truth about the unborn’s humanity. A “blob of tissue” no more!

  • Jessika Dillard

    I wish I could post a pic of my nine week miscarried baby. It’s a celebration of life. I also shared it on my fb page. Mainly to let people know that a life is a life and they all matter. I see nothing wrong with it. Nothing can replace a baby lost ever not even being blessed with another. I haven’t been lucky enough to be blessed again not yet away. It’s a shame some people don’t get that

  • Kathleen Konti

    Wow so tiny,but so beautiful all these preborn babies. It’s amazing all of us born people were this size in our mothers wombs at one time. Thank God she brought me to birth and I spent my early days in an incubator as I was born early way back in the fifties.
    ..

  • Stephanie

    Learn biology people! While you’re at it, look into the gestational development of a fetus. That obviously fake fetus that is supposedly 8 weeks is completely inaccurate. Arms and legs don’t develop until about 13 weeks gestation. Come on people! Before you let your emotions get the best of you, do some research.

    • momma bare

      You’re wrong. My nine week baby had arms and legs, and was a baby. I grieved when she passed. She died, therefore she was alive.

  • Stephanie

    Beautiful pictures of your baby!

  • Tina L Gordon

    An embryo is not the same colour of skin tone as it’s ‘mother’ as in there images… a fetus born at 24 weeks is red in colour and fairly translucent…. it is not possible to ascertain the gender of an embryo of this stage… and whoa is is disturbing to stick a headband sticker on the ‘girl’

    How did she know the ‘boy’ had been dead for 2.5 weeks ‘in the womb’…. a medical professional would of given her something to induce it’s passing as leaving it there would be dangerous and life threatening … this woman is a twisted liar and needs psychiatric help but SCPL’s feed her illness because they WANT it to be real…. oh and a 7 week miscarriage looks like a slice of liver…. it cannot be washed away from the embryo for a perfect embryo to be found underneath… I’ve passed a 7 week pregnancy…. shame I can’t post up photos here and show you exactly what it looked like…. furthermore it is approximately 1 cm in size…. this one shown is approximately 2 cms

  • Ellen Dixon

    Beautiful story. It is just sad that people are choosing to have a religious debate on here of their twisted views of such things as birth control . Allow it to be an inspirational story instead of your soap box.

  • Michelle Irwin

    Dear Mindy…thank you so much for sharing these amazing photos. I am so sorry for your losses but glad you were able to save something beautiful from tragic times. I am a NILMDTS photographer and a mom of pregnancy loss as well. Thank you for helping raise awareness to a subject that so many people avoid discussing. ♡♡ Best of luck to you!

  • Ninny H. Fulwood

    My granddaughter had a miscarriage and God instructed her to name her baby and then we buried him (he was 7 weeks) . People who are not born again cannot see the kingdom of God, emotionally, spiritually and physically so they do not recognize God endowed human dignity. You do and many others commenting do also.

  • GuestZZcrop

    I love how this post has become an issue over contraception and abortion. WTF?? I think people need to re read it and comment appropriately or not at all. lol

  • Love Teresa

    Danielle, people’s consciences have been seered. The bible says “Woah to those who swap good for evil and what’s evil they proclaim as good”. Their judgment has already been passed down to them. They have believed the god of this world’s lies and are under a great delusion. Very few will come out of this satanic delusion and their souls will be sentenced by the one and only God to live eternally in hell. They think they are right and you will not convince them otherwise.

  • Julie

    Thank you for sharing these pictures and story. I’m so sorry for the short time you carried your baby. Please ignore the negative comments, sometimes people just feel compelled to bring a beautiful moment down. I think having these memories will help your heart heal. This baby was alive in you and there is no shame in loving your child.

  • Marie Ann

    All this photos are absolutely BREATH TAKING.. GOD FORGIVE US….

  • Kelly

    these photos are fake. Miscarried babies do not come out looking that way. They do not have a skeleton yet at 8 or 10 or even 12 weeks to keep the form that you see in those photos when they exit the body after a natural miscarriage. Do tje research yourselves, folks. Dont just believe something cause you see it on the internet. I know people are smarter than that. Yet they continue to buy all the “facts” people make up and put out there. This story is made to support a pro life belief. I personally dont advocate abortion but I certainly dont want to tell someone what to do with their own body and life that has nothing to do with me. I wish people would start thinking for themselves.

  • Doris

    I have had 10 miscarriages all before 10 week’s gestation and was always made to feel that they weren’t really babies yet. My 2nd miscarriage the nurse said that it was probably a boy. But I convinced myself that it wasn’t really possible to know. My husband and I had picked out a name for a boy because we already had a son and it was easy to pick a boy name. But every single one of those pregnancies was a baby and I lost them. I honestly don’t know if they were boys or girls but they were all my babies in my heart. I have 3 beautiful boyz now. But I still mourn those other babies. I have had 10 miscarriages but I know a woman who has had 9 abortions! I honestly don’t know how someone can do that but it was never an option for me.