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New details on the death of Tonya Reaves: Planned Parenthood waited over five hours before transferring her to the ER

There’s been an update to the tragic death of Tonya Reaves, a mother of one who was engaged to be married. After undergoing a second-trimester abortion at Planned Parenthood, Reaves began to bleed heavily. And instead of taking her to the hospital right away, the people who were supposed to care for her left her to bleed for over five hours before an ambulance was called.

The abortion, a dilation and extraction procedure, took place at 11:00. But an ambulance didn’t take Reaves to the hospital until 4:30 – five and a half hours later. When the doctors at the hospital performed an ultrasound an hour later, they found that the abortionist didn’t complete the abortion. Reaves had to then undergo another abortion to complete the first one, but the bleeding and the pain didn’t stop. A second ultrasound revealed that she was also suffering from a perforated uterus. She went into surgery that evening, but doctors weren’t able to control the bleeding, and she eventually died.

How much of a difference could it have made had Planned Parenthood gotten her the emergency help she desperately needed?

Responding to the report, Troy Newman, President of Operation Rescue and Pro-Life Nation, said, “It is clear that Planned Parenthood botched the procedure that resulted in uncontrolled bleeding then failed to treat the hemorrhage while Reaves was at their clinic, allowing her to bleed for over five hours before finally calling for help.”

“There can be no doubt that this delay contributed to her death,” Newman argues. “The injury and the untreated hemorrhage happened at Planned Parenthood and they are solely responsible for it.”

Newman, in a press statement to LifeNews, quotes Dr. James C. Anderson, M.D., a 30-year veteran emergency room doctor who said abortion clinics never informed him about their patients’ conditions.

“I have always had to evaluate the situation, come to my own conclusions, and initiate what I thought was appropriate treatment. This definitely created some time delays that were not in the patient’s best interest,” stated Dr. Anderson. “These delays can have life-threatening implications when dealing with hemorrhage or infection.”

Newman says the lack of information proved fatal for Tonya Reaves.

Abortion advocates have effectively circled the wagons around Planned Parenthood – after all, the death of one woman hardly matters when compared to abortion access – and have started obfuscating the facts and creating smokescreens, accusing pro-lifers of “exploiting” this tragedy. This supposed exploitation is because pro-lifers have not let Planned Parenthood refuse to take responsibility for its actions. The reality is that the people at Planned Parenthood doesn’t care about the safety of women, and they’re trying to hide the fact that this case shows they were negligent, denied Tonya Reaves access to emergency medical care after butchering her in a failed abortion, and then, in effect, left her to die.

Planned Parenthood is already facing a congressional investigation due to accusations of Medicaid fraud and hiding cases of sexual abuse against minors. A negligent death playing out before the eyes of the public is the last thing abortion advocates want. After all, keeping abortion readily available matters more than anything else, even above the health and safety of women like Tonya Reaves.

But the facts cannot be hidden. And the facts show that Planned Parenthood is a dangerous organization – not just for unborn children, but also for the women and girls who entrust them with their lives.

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  • peach

    This woman died and that’s tragic, but she was exercising her choice when she went for that abortion. Please don’t try to make her your poster child. She was obviously pro-choice and of course she would never choose to die during an abortion, but you can’t say this would have turned her pro-life. She’s not a martyr for your cause. Leave her name out of your debates (could you imagine if her family read your claims she was “butchered”?) and let her family grieve.

    • Kristiburtonbrown

      No one is claiming this would have “turned her pro-life.” We’re claiming that an abortion – and specifically, the negligence of the abortion providers – killed her. That’s a fact. And if you don’t want to consider a woman who was left to bleed for over five hours “butchered,” than don’t, but I do. How would you prefer to describe her death? “Slowly bled until she died?” That’s not much better. This should never have happened.

      • peach

        “Slowly bled until she died” is at least accurate. Of course it never should have happened, but like any medical procedure, there are risks. People have died getting their wisdom teeth removed. And it hasn’t been proven that Planned Parenthood was negligent. I don’t think the opinion of a pro-life doctor really counts in this case.

        • Deleece

          I worked with Tonya. I miss her so much. Her death just seems like it is not real. I keep thinking that it is a bad dream. When I wake up in the morning. I realize it is not a dream. Tonya was sweet, kind, patient, loving, friendly, and warm. She had everything that a mother would dream off in a daughter. I miss her so much, because It is so hard to find kind and loving people like her today. If God would grant me one wish today. My wish would be to………have her here to stay…….. stay until God says…….. you lived 100 years today……… I love you Tonya. I will see you in heaven.

  • Georgia

    I absolutely do not trust this article for true facts, but I believe that if care was denied and she was neglected, the doctors and the practice should be brought into question. However, using this woman, who was clearly not with your cause, as some sort of “lesson” to the public is absolutely disgraceful.

    • Kristiburtonbrown

      Well, this article is based on the same facts and records that CBS Chicago is reporting, so the facts are certainly not biased here. Just because you don’t agree with opinions doesn’t mean the facts are untrue.

      • Worshiper of God

        Well said!

  • ProTruth2

    The abortion, a dilation and extraction procedure, took place at 11:30.
    But an ambulance didn’t take Reaves to the hospital until 4:30 – five
    and a half hours later.

    Three questions:

    1). How do you know the precise minute at which Ms. Reaves’ bleeding was evident? Since I didn’t go to med school myself, I am unable to tell from the news reports whether it appeared immediately, or was observed later, during the post-procedure observation period. But you must know, since the delay between the appearance of the bleeding and the summoning of an ambulance appears to be the entire foundation of your claim it is a “fact” that PP was negligent.

    2). What time zone is North Carolina in, that you think that 4:30 is
    “five and a half hours later” than 11:30? Where I come from, 4:30 is five
    hours after 11:30. And that’s a fact. Not important, of course, except to those tiresome people who believe that even fake journalism sites ought not to neglect simple proofreading if they want to be taken seriously.

    3). What is the standard medical protocol for addressing post-abortion bleeding? Some bleeding is normal after the procedure that Ms. Reaves had, and since I didn’t go to medical school myself, I don’t know how they know what is serious and what is routine. Since the first team that worked on Ms. Reaves at the hospital also missed the perforated uterus, perhaps recognizing the injury is not as easy as Troy Newman believes.

    I look forward to your answers. Negligence is indeed a shameful thing, whether in doctors who fail to recognize injury or in bloggers who present speculation as fact, and everyone should be held accountable for avoidable errors.

    • Detroiter327

      I am really enjoying that it’s been over a day and the article has not been changed.

      • ProTruth2

        If I recall correctly, the editors have said that they can’t be expected to know there is anything wrong with an article unless a reader e-mails them directly.

        • liveaction

          This is not true. We have asked that readers email us directly at editor@liveaction.org if they are concerned with the accuracy of an article. Just like any other news agency, we will make a correction if needed. However, we do have our own internal fact-checking process.

          • ProTruth2

            And what a special fact-checking process it is! I especially enjoyed your inexplicable failure to find out the facts about the Ford Foundation’s grant process before publishing poor Miss Jennie’s latest post on the subject, as I pointed out in the comments. But no, I didn’t e-mail you directly, because it’s not my job to help you clean up your messes quietly.

            Incidentally, a real news agency publishes a retraction when the article is irredeemably flawed, rather than just scrubbing it from the site and hoping everyone forgets about it.

    • liveaction

      According to the CBS Chicago article, the procedure happened at 11:00am. So, the five and a half hour claim is accurate, and the article has been changed to reflect 11:00 as the time of the procedure instead of 11:30. The CBS article reports the same information that we do – Ms. Reaves began to bleed “after the procedure.” No one knows the exact moment. However, D & E abortions can be performed in 15 minutes, so it is accurate to claim, from the currently available records, that Ms. Reaves was bleeding for over five hours.

      • ProTruth2

        Okay, so you addressed the second of my three questions. Good work! But the other two are more important. Your contributor claims that it is a “fact that [PP was] negligent, denied Tonya Reaves access to emergency medical care after butchering her in a failed abortion, and then, in effect, left her to die.” If you know for a fact that the clinic was negligent, then you must also know:

        a) what the standard protocol for post-surgical observation with that procedure is, and
        b) how PP deviated from that protocol.

        If you do not know those two things, then you do not know for a fact that the clinic was negligent. You may believe it with all your wee little heart, but belief doesn’t make something true (cf. Santa Claus). And even if it does turn out that the clinic should have called the paramedics sooner, that is not the same thing as “deny[ing] access to emergency medical care,” or leaving someone to die. Those too are claims that are not supportable unless they are substantiated with evidence that neither you nor Troy Newman appear to have.

        I know that you hate Planned Parenthood more than you love journalistic credibility, but if you’re going to butcher “reporting,” then expect to get called out on it.

        • liveaction

          According to Planned Parenthood’s own website (http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/abortion/in-clinic-abortion-procedures-4359.asp), a patient only needs to stay for one hour post-surgery for recovery after a D&E. As this article and CBS Chicago reports, Ms. Reaves was at Planned Parenthood for 5 1/2 hours. After including the “10-20 minutes” for a D&E that PP claims is necessary, you’re left with at least an extra 4 1/2 hours that Ms. Reaves was kept at PP. That’s a clear deviation from the protocol that Planned Parenthood itself reports.

          • ProTruth2

            Okay, I see now that I’ve been talking over your head. I should not have assumed that you would either know what the word ‘protocol’ means in this context, or think to look it up. So let me try again, hopefully in small words that you will understand.

            First off, you should understand that the medical information that you find by Googling and looking at the Mayo Clinic or PP websites is simplified and targeted at an audience looking for general information. What you saw on the PP website was simply a thumbnail sketch, and probably not even the full information that would be given to a patient. But doctors and nurses, unlike bloggers, don’t get all their medical training from Googling. They go to school for years and read long books with big words in them, to learn much, much more about medical conditions and procedures than they would learn if they just stayed and home and surfed the web. And when they learn how to perform operations, they learn how to do it with the methods that experts believe produce the best results with the least risk, although no procedure is 100% risk free. And when they go out to do a procedure in practice, they generally do it according to what are sometimes called “protocols.” A protocol is a detailed set of guidelines, produced by experts in accordance with generally accepted medical practices, that tells practitioners what to do before, during, and after a surgery. Those guidelines will include what to do if at any point, the patient’s response deviates from the typical patient experience–things generally not found on a website targeted at an audience without medical training.

            Next, you should understand what happens after a surgical procedure. Since no operation is risk-free and since patients respond differently to various drugs, each operation is followed by an “observation period,” in which nurses monitor patients to see how they are recovering and to watch for complications. That’s what PP’s website means about a one-hour recovery period: after one hour the patient will probably be well enough to go home if no complications are spotted during the recovery. But sometimes, the patient’s recovery is not identical to the typical recovery, and then the doctors and nurses have to decide what to do next. For example, the last time I had a procedure under general anesthesia, I couldn’t go home after the standard recovery period because I was throwing up. Does that mean they sent me to the emergency room right away? No, because if every patient who is not a textbook case goes to the emergency room, then the emergency rooms will be so crowded that it would compromise the care of people having actual emergencies. And so instead, I stayed in the observation room for another half-hour until I’d stopped throwing up and could go home. That was the normal protocol for that situation.

            And so in Ms. Reaves’s case, we do not know if there was negligence unless we first know the professional clinical guidelines for post-abortion bleeding. We know that an hour seems to be the standard recovery period. So, do the generally accepted protocols say that the clinic should call an ambulance if bleeding has continued for a minute after that hour? If so, then it is a good bet that Planned Parenthood was negligent (though I repeat, as I have said above, that internal bleeding may not be externally visible the instant it starts). But if the standard protocol is to continue to monitor the patient and send her to the ER if the bleeding has not stopped in four hours, then the evidence we have is not sufficient to assume negligence.* ‘Negligent’ may be fun to say and write, but it also has a precise meaning, and if we want to be taken seriously, we should stick with precision over fun.

            *Note that I said “assume.” We can’t assume negligence, but neither do we have enough evidence to be confident that it did not occur. Since patient medical records are not widely available for the entertainment of bloggers who are playing at being experts and settlements with families often include confidentiality clauses, we may never know with certainty. However, a real journalist does not operate by assuming guilt until innocence is proven, even if the journalist really, really dislikes the organization s/he is writing about.

          • I

            I used to work at Planned Parenthood. Patients can expect to be in the clinic 3-6hrs because of all the steps they have to go through. They fill out paperwork, get an ultrasound to determine how far along they are, meet with an educator who explains everything in detail and answer any questions. They can also meet with a social worker who will want to make sure that they are there willingly and also sure of their decision to terminate. If they ever sense any doubt in the patient, they would not allow them to go through with the procedure. After getting some lab work done, they would then get the abortion and be in recovery for 30-60min. In between all of those steps, they are in and out of the waiting area. And with second trimester abortions, they have to give you a medication to soften your cervix at least two hours before your procedure. I’m glad I no longer work there anymore.. Something inside told me it just wasn’t right.

          • I

            I also would NOT believe everything the media says because just about every article says that the patient had the abortion at the 18 s Michigan location which is not true because they only offer the medication abortion there. The only pp in Chicago that does the abortion procedures is the one at 1200 n LaSalle

          • liveaction

            Thanks for sharing your experience working at the PP clinic. We appreciate you pointing out the process that PP follows with your own personal experience. As the records show, Ms. Reaves had the abortion done at 11:00 and so, according to the protocol you’re referring to, she should have only been in recovery for 30-60 min after that – not for hours. Thanks again for the info, and we’re also glad you no longer work there =)

  • Myrna

    I feel sorry for this woman and her family. But again her being “prochoice” caused her death. An abortion is not a natural thing for your bofy to go through. If God intended it to he would have made it that way. She should be used as an example on why the procedure is wrong.

    • Anonymous

      So classy to look at a young woman who’s just died and say “Eh, she deserved it”. Oh, and if it’s such an unnatural thing “for your bofy [sic] to go through”, then why did God make pregnancy and childbirth fourteen times more likely to lead to a woman’s death than abortion? (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22270271)

  • tookie

    let us stick with the facts. abortion is suppose to be safe. but, that is a lie. obiviosly is it not. they are the ones that called for the help in this case. are did they? THEY ARE AGAINST WOMEN AND CHILDREN.

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