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Published: March 17, 2012 12:52 am to Culture News

Planned Parenthood supporters mock abortion survivor

Nothing seems to infuriate abortion supporters more than having a face put on that “choice.”  When confronted with the reality of abortion survivors – namely, Melissa Ohden, who survived a saline abortion in 1977 – pro-choice Planned Parenthood advocates are thrown into a tizzy.

Melissa Ohden, abortion survivor

They are quick to brush aside such an incredible story as Melissa’s as merely a hoax, because they’re forced to realize that in order to defend the so-called right to abortion, they would have to be content in looking at people like Melissa in the face and saying “you don’t have a right to be alive.”

Few of even the staunchest of pro-abortion rights advocates would feel so confident.

They’ll deny, justify, and mock Melissa’s survival, all in the name of defending “choice,” and their putrid arrogance is nothing short of astounding.

First, Planned Parenthood supporters try to deny Melissa’s surviving a violent attempt on her life. On four separate occasions in the span of an hour, Melissa’s testimony is called “bullsh—.” (If that’s not indicative that these Planned Parenthood supporters are threatened by her story, I don’t know what is.)

They also try to fervently deny Melissa’s story.

I’m more than sure a fetus can’t breathe through its nose and mouth,” one pro-abortion rights Planned Parenthood advocate writes.

Did they really just say you can breathe in the womb on your own? Lmao[,]” another Planned Parenthood advocate agrees.

I could make a video about how I survived cancer because I found the cure in my cat’s litter box.  Doesn’t make it true,” writes another Planned Parenthood supporter.  (Hey, high five for making fun of an abortion survivor and cancer victims in one breath!)

Will someone please throw an embryology textbook at these Planned Parenthood ralliers?  These are weak, futile attempts (from clearly weak-minded people) to refute the fact that Melissa breathed saline solution into her lungs while she was in utero during the abortion that intended to end her life.  A preborn child begins to practice breathing eight weeks after conception.  The child inhales amniotic fluid during a saline abortion.  That’s why it burns the baby inside and out before he or she is delivered, dead, if the abortion is “successful.” Is it too difficult or too inconvenient to do a quick Google search to figure that out?

The portion of Melissa’s medical records (which are readily available and open on her website) explain that a “saline infusion for an abortion was done but unsuccessful[,]” which resulted in her birth.  Denying a fact over and over doesn’t make it any less of one.  It just makes the deniers look like dense, ignorant fools.

Second, a Planned Parenthood supporter tries to justify aborting Melissa: “I would just like to point out… she never mentions WHY her mother decided to abort her.  How does she know it wasn’t for a medical reason?”

Does it really matter why Melissa was aborted?  Clearly, she was viable – how in the world is aborting a viable baby justified, even in the case of a medical emergency?  If a pregnancy is life-threatening and must end, how is going in and intentionally killing the baby preferable to or even justified over trying to save the baby, too?

Third, they make a mockery of Melissa’s survival.

Hmm. I can watch the ending of the Golden Girls or [Melissa’s] video. Decisions. Decisions. *ponders briefly* Golden Girls!” a Planned Parenthood supporter writes.

She’s maaaaaaaaaaagical,” another says.

Wow this personal story is so irrelevant,” another remarks. “The goal of abortion is merely to remove the fetus if it survived it’s just a bonus.”

What pathetic commentary from a pathetic group of individuals.  Resorting to a demeanor of a third-grader throwing insults at someone when he realizes he’s just lost a game.  We can’t expect much else from these people, though.

When pro-abortion rights advocates and Planned Parenthood supporters see the face of the “choice” they so eagerly defend, they succumb to juvenile, pitiful retorts.  Is that at all surprising, though?

Planned Parenthood’s advocacy – and its very existence – is telling abortion survivors like Melissa, “You have no right to be alive.”

  • palagi

    I feel like they should be showing more miscarried babies. Try to convince someone that a miscarried baby isnt the same as a real baby. They’ll outright be offended because the child was wanted. Abortion is truly Satan walking the earth and it’s a scary thing.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-M-Williams/1021964754 Michelle M. Williams

       Everyone that I know who went through a miscarriage was sad and heartbroken, but did not and would not equate it to loosing one of their children.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/5AXMJB76LYPC4CYJBUXNWJ544E natgolfer

        Michelle, obviously you just know some very uninformed people.

        • Jdjdjeeeeerrrryyy

          Or they chose to move on for the sake of their surviving children.

          • http://www.facebook.com/jeep.obsessed Brooke Mehr

             It is not impossible to move on AND still consider it a loss of a child.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-M-Williams/1021964754 Michelle M. Williams

             Thank you

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-M-Williams/1021964754 Michelle M. Williams

          I know quite a few medical professionals. They would be much more traumatized over the lost of their 12 or 20 year old. They were devastated and sad at the time of their miscarriages but they have moved on and gotten on with life.

          • Kirstenfinger

            Oh how nice that you *know* medical professionals. I am one. And who do you think you are to say what would be more devastating to others. Ever considered that perhaps other people don’t share the extent of their personal pain and grief with every one around them? With you? You are incredibly misguided.

          • Musiciangirl591

             don’t overgeneralize, a few medical professionals compared to all the struggling to get pregnant couples in the world is a very small amount…

      • LizS

        What??  Everyone *I* know that had one was devastated at their miscarriage *because* they lost one of their children.  My Mom still talks about how someday she’s going to meet her two babies in heaven, and my friends who’ve had something like 10 miscarriages (because of a medical problem) are the same way.  Same thing with another family I know who’s had several miscarriages.  Same thing with my husband’s family.  I have 5 brothers on earth, and 2 more siblings hopefully in heaven.  Don’t tell me that they’re not my siblings.

        • Jdjdjeeeeerrrryyy

          They’re not your siblings. Lol sorry you set yourself up for that one. But in all seriousness, you have way more than just 2 siblings in heaven. Medically speaking, your mother, like any women, has had miscarriages within the first couple days of her pregnancy that she doesn’t even know about. A woman’s body will sometimes do this, and its so early on the woman doesn’t even know it happened. So if you have this mentality, don’t discriminate between the ones you do and don’t know about

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-M-Williams/1021964754 Michelle M. Williams

             Very true. Only about half of all miscarriages are known. More than half of all miscarriages are just seen as a heavy period.

          • Christy

            If she doesn’t know it happened, how can medical professionals know it happened? I’ve tried to find the answer to this quesion and not had much success. Since you’re so sure, maybe you can point me in the right direction.

          • Jdjdjeeeeerrrryyy

            Google is your friend

          • Musiciangirl591

             google? good source right there buddy…

          • 12angry_men

            Girl, you are incorrect. Google is not a “source.” Try putting that on any paper, whether in high school or college. The websites that Google comes up with are the sources. And Google will link you to government websites, so I don’t see how it isn’t a good place to go to to find your sources. I think you are just a little confused, or are looking to start something. 

          • Musiciangirl591

             i was being sarcastic?

          • Jdjdjeeeeerrrryyy

            So then you think Google is a good source?

          • Musiciangirl591

             i don’t, that was the sarcasm part…

          • Jdjdjeeeeerrrryyy

            That’s what I thought. My first comment towards you still stands. I clearly recognized your sarcasm and responded to it. If I thought you weren’t being sarcastic I wouldn’t have responded in the first place.

          • musiciangirl591

             then why did you respond to it, you seemed confused whether or not i was being sarcastic, if you didn’t think i was being sarcastic, don’t waste both our time in commenting…

          • Jdjdjeeeeerrrryyy

            I did think you were being sarcastic. That’s what I just said. Obviously I recognized your sarcasm since I responded with why Google is actually a good research tool to use

          • Musiciangirl591

             and plus i know not to use google when doing research, i wrote 11 papers when i was in high school, wasn’t allowed to use google for the vast majority of them

          • Jdjdjeeeeerrrryyy

            I think you mean wikipedia. Unless you weren’t allowed to use any online resources I highly doubt that you weren’t able to use Google. There is now way your teacher could even keep track of that.

          • Musiciangirl591

            in my American History class sophomore and junior years, we were not allowed to use internet sources, no wikipedia, no google, only books and magazines, don’t act like i don’t know what i’m talking about

          • Jdjdjeeeeerrrryyy

            Then the correct answer is that you couldn’t use any online resources, not just Google. And I have written multiple college essays, and for each of them I could use Google to find online sources. Just because you could not use them in high school doesn’t mean the rest of the world doesn’t use it. In fact, for some of my college classes we don’t use actual books anymore, we instead use all digital and online media. Using Google cuts the time out of research, and most of the articles referenced on this site come from online sources.

          • musiciangirl591

             i couldn’t use google to find online sources in high school, i could use databases like ebsco, but not google to find sources…

          • Hovish13

            I”m writing my senior thesis right now. We’re not allowed to use Google either- strictly book references or online databases like electronic libraries and academic journal compilations.

          • Jdjdjeeeeerrrryyy

            You know, you can find most academic articles using Google. Using Google is a great way to stay caught up on all the most recent developments in any field.

          • Jdjdjeeeeerrrryyy

            I think you mean wikipedia. Unless you weren’t allowed to use any online resources I highly doubt that you weren’t able to use Google. There is now way your teacher could even keep track of that.

          • 12angry_men

            How would your teacher even know if you used Google? You can’t actually cite Google as a resource because Google links you to websites; many of which are run by the government. Unless you weren’t allowed to use the internet at all, meaning you could only use news, books, what have you, I doubt that you couldn’t use Google. Maybe it’s Wikipedia you are thinking of. 

          • Musiciangirl591

             you had to use books and magazines, MLA format has its own way of citing things, i wrote many a term paper (11 to be exact) and i was only allowed to use google for 4 of them

          • 12angry_men

            LiveAction really needs to improve their site. It is literally impossible for me to read some of these comments (the ones further down). So I’ll just end this conversation right now by saying this: Google is a perfectly acceptable way to do research. It’s great that your high school had you find other ways to do research, as most teens these days don’t know how to do any other research besides Google. With that being said Google is great for staying up to date with information, and it takes a lot of the time out of research, which is good when you’re on a tight schedule. Hope that clears up everything.  

          • musiciangirl591

             but sometimes the sources on google can be wrong, so how do you know if they are right or not?

          • 12angry_men

            And furthermore this article referenced Facebook. Now there’s a wonderful source right there right? That’s what I thought. Stop your foolishness. 

          • Musiciangirl591

             don’t call me stupid and you’re foolish if you can’t see sarcasm…

          • 12angry_men

            So if you were being sarcastic then do you think Google is a good “source?”

          • Musiciangirl591

            i don’t think google should be used as a source at all, google’s the reason why people don’t go to libraries anymore to look stuff up… 

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=622969119 Michele Hriscko Cook

           Everyone I know who has ever miscarried says “I lost the baby”. I have never heard anyone say “I lost my fetus”.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-M-Williams/1021964754 Michelle M. Williams

            They are still not nearly as traumatized over it as if their 2, 12 or 20 year old would die. My partner went through a miscarriage with his wife but only references it in passing. He says he doesn’t think he could go on if one of his daughters, 14 and 16, would pass away.

          • Hovish13

            Just as one would be more traumatized by the death of a friend of 2, 12, or 20 years, than the death of a friendship of a few months.

          • http://twitter.com/lisajulia65 Lisa Julia

            I am sorry for his loss, but clearly not everyone’s sensitivity chip is wired the same way.  The loss of a child who has spent years with you might affect your emotions differently from losing a child to miscarriage, but it doesn’t change the dignity and worth of the child who was miscarried.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-M-Williams/1021964754 Michelle M. Williams

           Well no one I know feels that way. And miscarriage is very common. I don’t know that many people over the age of 40 who hasn’t gone through at least one. They would much more traumatized to loose their 12 or 20 year old.

          • Anadrs23

            Miscarriages are common, so are post-natal deaths, are you implying that their frequency should diminish the grief?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=799235561 Luke Procter

        My mother had a miscarriage… everyone in my family continues to remember our lost sibling, my parents continue to mourn their lost child.

      • Kirstenfinger

        This is untrue, blatantly so. There are more support group out there for people who have ‘angel babies’ than you could even count. You are being fed lies by the pro abortion industry, and you are responsible for helping to spread them. It is insensitive of you to minimize women and families’ pain in this way.

        • Grace

          My miscarriage was the best thing to ever happen to me. I never want to be pregnant :) 

          • Musiciangirl591

             wow, get your tubes tied then…

      • http://twitter.com/lisajulia65 Lisa Julia

        Why are there 5 year old kids trolling today?  Please don’t diminish the worth of a child who was miscarried.  I mourn the baby i lost to an early miscarriage every single day of my life.

        • Jdjdjeeeeerrrryyy

          Hun, its good to remember but for the sake of yourself and other children if you have any you should seek counseling. Like any death, there is a healthy period of mourning. After that you should be thankful for the life you have, and the people in your life who are still with you. You’ll never forget, but you’ll be able to heal and move on.

      • Elly

        I had a miscarriage and I equate it with losing a child because that’s what happened. I held my 15 week old baby in my hand and he was perfectly formed. :’( I feel sorry for the people you know who went through the sorrow of a miscarriage and I also feel sorry for them that they didn’t truly realize what they lost. 

      • Musiciangirl591

         my friend monica and her husband had a miscarriage and they were devastated, they definitely compared it to losing one of their children, my aunt and uncle also lost a baby shortly after birth, they felt the same exact pain too, my cousin in heaven and monica and her husband’s baby are still their children and they are still parents…

    • TrueGod

      Wanna se Satan walking the earth? look in the mirror. You people are nothing but pure evil.

      • k8

        As usual, no reasonable arguments, just name-calling….

        • freeforever666

          Palagi was the first to insult those who don’t agree with your twisted pro-fetus anti-woman psychopatic morality.

          • Mitchell A.

            freeforever you are a psychopath

          • Anadrs23

            YES, I was waiting for the “anti-woman” cliche…. Now I KNOW you are not worth having an intellectually-honest debate with…

        • 12angry_men

          That’s because he’s a TROLL. I swear sometimes….

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sarah-Silcox-Martin/1460419094 Sarah Silcox Martin

    The goal of an abortion is not just to remove a fetus. Thats why these banshees scream for partial-birth abortion and applaud Obama for supporting the killing of abortion survivors. Thats also why they trot out stories of “my life was in danger! I had to abort my 8 month old fetus!” The goal is a dead baby, not a terminated pregnancy.

    • Vitty

      How incredibly ignorant of you,
      I see your IQ is in single digits.

      • http://www.facebook.com/mike.bratton Mike Bratton

        Are these really the best replies you have?  Seriously?  I mean, there’s supposed to be at least a certain panache from trolls, but your stuff is just weak sauce…

      • Musiciangirl591

         how is her IQ in the single digits? comments like that say more about you than about her…

      • Anp1215

        Incorrect punctuation is incorrect.

        • RageAtMe

          I’m sorry Sir. your grammar seems to be incorrect. Or as you’d say:
          Incorrect Grammar is Incorrect

  • Margaret

    I can’t even believe the misinformation that the prochoice commenters were posting. Walk into any ob/gyn office and you can look at the handy fetal development charts on the walls. Google works, too. It’s amazing what people are content to believe when they don’t want to think about what they are defending.

    • TrueGod

      Yes, at 8 weeks a fetus looks like a freaking shrimp, doesn’t have little hands and legs like you people misleadingly love to portray. You people are laughably stupid.

      • Kirstenfinger

        Some day your blinkers will come off. A simple google search will assist that.

        • Grace

          If you believe the idiotic, bullshit propaganda anti-choicers spew, then go ahead google away.

          • Kirstenfinger

             Not every piece of information on google comes from a prolife site, Grace.  Try searching some time.

          • Musiciangirl591

             nice language…

          • 12angry_men

            Please refrain from low comment posting on an article with this many comments; it really just clutters things up.

          • Musiciangirl591

             low comment posting? definition please?

          • Jdjdjeeeeerrrryyy

            Low comment posting is saying only a few words as a response. Low content posting typically doesn’t add anything to the discussion and simply takes up space. Or at least that’s what I understand it as, I don’t know what men’s definition is.

  • Grc_long

    IF a fetus is not considered human until it can live and breathe on its own, then are patients on life support not considered human anymore?  What about babies born premature?  Sometimes they need breathing aides…have they reached “humanhood” yet?  Seriously people, when do we draw the line?  IS there really a line to be drawn?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/5AXMJB76LYPC4CYJBUXNWJ544E natgolfer

      We draw the line this coming Nov. and take the infidels out of the white house and Congress.

      • TrueGod

        No you won’t, wanna bet that you creatures will lose A LOT of seats come this election? It’ll be EPIC.

    • Grace

      It’s not considered a human being until it’s viable, it’s using another person’s body to survive. Without consent not even BORN people are allowed to do this, why are we granting foetuses more rights than a sentient woman? Ridiculous. 

      • Kirstenfinger

         How do you determine viability Grace?  What say you of the late-term abortions that are performed every day in Victoria?  328 in 2008, 178 for psycho-social reasons, meaning on healthy babies and healthy mums. That’s more than half.  And ALL done post the age of ‘viability’.

      • MoonChild02

        Science disagrees with you. Try looking up the Law of Biogenesis and the definition of a human being sometime. DNA of a fetus proves that s/he is human. The unborn are also very sentient. Babies are born crying in the tones of their mothers’ languages, they play in the uterus, they recognize a parent’s voice, they recognize music they heard in the womb, etc. Try actually picking up a scientific magazine once in a while, please.

        Furthermore, the baby didn’t choose to be there. The woman and man put her/him there. We need to take responsibility for our actions. It’s called being an adult.

  • Newmommy

    I just feel so sad for these young people. They have no clue, they just buy into this huge lie of its “my body and I do whatever I want with it” and its “my choice”. I really can’t blame them, they just are completely blinded by PP that brain washed them.   

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=622969119 Michele Hriscko Cook

       The funny thing is all those lies were thought up by Bernard Nathanson, the founder of NARAL who converted and became staunchly pro life after seeing what he was doing once ultrasound was invented. His last act before his death recently was to lobby for a states personhood amendment, saying abortion was the US’s biggest mistake. He admitted to thinking up those “catchy slogans” to get support for Roe in a room full of men, laughing at how gullible women would be to buy into them:

      http://www.pregnantpause.org/abort/remember-naral.htm

    • Grace

      Lies? Yet another person who thinks women have no choice regarding their own bodies. The misogyny is staggering.

      • Musiciangirl591

         what about the baby’s choice? i’m going to ask you a question, answer honestly please, i’m disabled (epileptic), if you were my mother and knew before i was born that i would be born with it, would you have aborted me?

  • http://twitter.com/midniterdr2010 Reformed Democrat

    This is why Gov’t run, sponsored programs need to end and be privately funded. These programs are only meant to cause dependency and division.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kathy-Lehr-Gay/100001544865011 Kathy Lehr Gay

    Gianna Jessen has been shouted-down when giving speeches…like she also had no right to exist, simply because she was an abortion survivor.  It’s simply amazing…they are not even fighting about a baby in the womb, but a walking, talking adult.  I am making it a priority to pray for the veil of lies to be lifted from their eyes….and for pro-lifers to never give up the fight.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=622969119 Michele Hriscko Cook

       and Gianna suffers cerebral palsy from the attempt on her life. It is because she was forced to be born prematurely. Had she been left alone and allowed to go to term, then given up for adoption to the wonderful parents who raised her, she would not have to deal every day with that disability and reminder that her own mother wanted her dead.

    • TrueGod

      “shouted-down when giving speeches” She was shut down cause she’s a flithy liar. There’s no such thing as an abortion survivor. The terms you people come up with I swear.  No reasonable minded person wants to listen to liars. She does look partially aborted though, lmao. All your brains have suffered abortions.

      • Kirstenfinger

        Hmmmm and now I realize there actually no point in replying to any of your responses because all you are capable of dong, seemingly, is name call rather than have an actual adult discussion about this. It’s normal to do this when you are unable to argue a point logically though so I guess I understand why you are doing it…..

      • k8

        Again, you have no reasonable arguments, just name-calling. You are showing the true mentality of your “cause”….nothing but hatred and slurs. Just because you are not comfortable with the truth, does not make it a lie. To say “there’s no such thing as an abortion survivor” is just such an ignorant statement, that refuses to accept a multitude of documented cases world-wide.  

      • http://twitter.com/lisajulia65 Lisa Julia

        I am sure you’ll be very excited to know that i have decided to offer you up in prayer from this point forward.  I am doing this because i refuse to believe that you really know what you are saying.  I still believe that there is good in everyone even when they appear to be completely, morally bankrupt.

        • Jdjdjeeeeerrrryyy

          You guys are funny, you keep feeding the trolls

  • Ashley

    I saw that on the Planned Parenthood page when I was trying to get them to see the truth about abortion. I got so mad at them.

    • TrueGod

      Why are you even there in the first place trolling? Probably cause secretly you love abortions.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001171348081 Alyssa Lauer

        Oh, is that why you’re here? Because you’re secretly pro-life?

    • Musiciangirl591

       i do that too, they told me that my parents should have used birth control when they conceived me… classy

  • DoubIenaughtspy

    Seriously I think Nazi’s would be appalled by these thugs.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=622969119 Michele Hriscko Cook

       Hitler studied Margaret Sangers ideas for her eugenics in persuit of his “master race”, and he legalized abortion in Germany. He loved it. As for calling people something else to dehumanize them and making an entire group of people “unhuman” to excuse killing them, well I think we all know how good he was at that!

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-M-Williams/1021964754 Michelle M. Williams

         Oh please. Sanger did not invent the idea of Eugenics. It was extremely popular in the early 20th century in Europe, England, and the United States. Hitler banned abortion for Aryan women.

        • http://twitter.com/MarauderTheSN Marauder

          Who said Sanger invented eugenics?

          Of course he banned abortion for Aryan women. He was a genocidal dictator, not a “my body my choice” poster boy. Anything that wiped out “inferiors,” from abortion to gas chambers, was great with him.

    • http://twitter.com/MarauderTheSN Marauder

      Nah. Mengele in particular would have thought they were awesome.

  • Guest

    How awful that they would treat Melissa like that! I can’t even believe it.

    Melissa, I applaud you for your courage. Continue to speak the truth!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001171348081 Alyssa Lauer

    What about all of the “pro-choice” news sites that do the same thing? Hypocrite.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003647522212 Dawn Zatara

       I’ve never edited shit like this, no. But feel free to keep calling me names on your silly little biased site.

      • http://twitter.com/MarauderTheSN Marauder

        Why waste your time on a silly little biased site?

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003647522212 Dawn Zatara

          Because people I know are being lied about. But you’re right. I’m done here now.

      • Musiciangirl591

         woah, watch your language

  • Huntergirl0926

    wow. WOW. I’m pro-life but do NOT hate the women who have had abortions, yet these people are pro-choice and OBVIOUSLY hate those who lived. Killing a baby in utero is bad enough, but then to mock and call names to those who survived it??? I’m literally sick to my stomach

  • JJ

    This is a clear misrepresentation and misinterpretation of what they are trying to say. They are advocating pro-choice, they are not mocking anybody. The only thing they don’t understand is when white, conservative men, think they have the right to legislate and make public policy on womens health issue. Whether you agree with abortion or not, people should have the right to choose. Its out of respect for the woman, that choice is necessary.

    • dominoe4

      The truth is necessary to make informed ‘choices’ and yet the left hinders and hides the truth. More of a ‘push’ than a choice. Why do you think they were so concerned with concealing ultra-sounds from the mothers, as just one example?

  • Oldmanbob

    What we fear we mock.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003647522212 Dawn Zatara

     It takes them out of context. And the OP was being just as insulting. I guess that’s okay to you, though.

    • http://twitter.com/MarauderTheSN Marauder

      Would you rather guess or would you rather ask me and find out?

      Under what context would these comments not be mean-spirited and rude?

  • beastybeast

    It’s impossible to be an abortion survivor, lmao. You anti-choicers come up with the most idiotic things. Stop bull shitting people with stupidities.

    • Kirstenfinger

      Can you elaborate on this please? How do you think it is impossible?.

      • Figaro

        lots of trolling going on…

        • Kirstenfinger

           Are you referring to what you are doing, Figaro?  Surely you must be….

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=681473501 Clarissa Masnaghetti

            How is Figaro’s comment trolling?  It seems the comment was merely to point out how many people are trolling by throwing out ridiculous statements that are easily proven to be baseless simply to get a rise out of people.  Example: No one can survive abortion.  Obviously people can survive since there was a need to address the occurance with the Born Alive Infant Protections Act.  Even if one believes this woman’s story to be a fake, there are certainly people out there who have survived.

        • Kirstenfinger

           Ignore my earlier comment, I have now made the connection for who you were referring to….

      • Vitty

        How do you think it’s possible? Your brain has obviously been aborted if you believe this shit.

        • dominoe4

          So tell me, genius, if surviving abortion is impossible, why would Obama, for one, have voted in favor of a Bill (twice) that makes it legal and medically ethical to leave aside infant ’survivors’ to die from neglect? Surely, if your right, Obama is enough of a genius to know such a Bill is unnecessary..yet he voted in favor twice. Hmmmm? 

        • Alaina

          So you’ve never heard of someone surviving an attempted murder? It’s really not that hard to figure out.. abortion is just a fancy word for murder, she survived an attempted abortion.

        • Kirstenfinger

           The government’s own annual reports on neonatal morbidity and mortality outline how many babies survive the abortion each year.  In Victoria in 2001 the number was 35, 2002 – 30, 2003 – 41, 2004 – 35, 2005 – 45, 2006 – 42, 2007 – 52, and 2008 – 32.  And that’s with, for lack of a better term, more ‘effective’ abortion methods than that which Melissa Ohden survived.

          If you want links for the stats, I’m happy to provide them.  They are extrapolated from the Vic government’s annual abortion reports, freely available on the internet.

          It’s interesting to me that your response to my query was to attempt to insult me and to plainly demonstrate your limited vocabulary through the use of profanity.  Not capable of a reasoned discussion hey?

    • http://www.facebook.com/mike.bratton Mike Bratton

      Thanks, whoever you are, for reinforcing the observations made by the article’s author.  Liberalism in general is emotion-based and fact-free, so it should be no surprise that facts and substance disorient individuals who think murdering yet-to-be-born children is a good thing.

      Indeed, I’m completely “anti-choice” when it comes to murder, whether it’s before, during, or after a child is born.  Apparently, you don’t share those sentiments.

      • freeforever666

        If you don’t want an abortion, don’t get one. No one is forcing you to get an abortion. That’s why it’s called a CHOICE.
        If it’s not BORN it cannot be murdered. If you lot can’t grasp a simple concept as this, than you shouldn’t be on the internetz posting shit.
        You lot want to force your anti-BORN people twisted morality on others. If you think it’s OK to force your anti-woman, pro-embryo psychopatic morality on others, than I have the right to force my ‘abortion should be a law’ decree on you.  

        Seeing the likes of you proves there are nowhere near enough abortions performed, or the ones who should be aborted are not, unfortunately.

        • Carmen.

          So, your saying that because these people are defending freedom-they should be aborted. 

          Well at least you know abortion is just another word for murder. There is hope for you. Pray for this one.

        • Mcnamaras8611

          so we just need to change the definition of born to mean conception…kind of like changing the definition of marriage to mean whatever…..an innocent human (with its own dna which is separate from the mother) is killed, that constitutes murder…you need to get an education.

        • dominoe4

          You’re correct about ‘simple concept’, as in, an ideology and self-deception conceived and carried out by simpletons. Talk about ‘twisted morality’…you call evil good and good evil and you’re so reprobate in your mind that you don’t even realize it.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Brown/1363270295 David Brown

          Pro baby murderer’s are all the same. Wonder if they ever listen to themselves and realize how ignorant they sound claiming it’s not a baby until it’s born,,and if it’s not born it’s not murdered,,, yet one would be charged with manslaughter who causes a woman to lose her baby during pregnancy. So freeforever666, you should go to Congress and tell them that it’s not a baby until it’s born and that they should release all those people in prison for causing a woman to lose a baby during pregnancy, all those who were involved in car accidents at their fault and charged with involuntary manslaughter where the women lost the baby during pregnancy in, or from the car accident. 

          • Logo4245

            Why the 666 in your name ForeverFree? That is not a path to freedom.

          • eric in NJ

            sorry, i think i stole/recycled your point. i did not scroll down and see what you posted. 

          • Pantheroom

            Ha, I doubt he’s thought more about this topic than this thread has just instigated. Better yet, I’d be interested in seeing him actually *see* an abortion. It’s clear he is as uneducated as they come– he’s for abortion up till birth, that’s more pro-abortion than the vast majority of the nation (and the legal system lol). 

            Also: 
            http://blog.secularprolife.org/2012/03/dont-like-abortion.html

          • Mafrey83

            David, you have a damn good point!!!!!!!!!

        • Can_of_dice84

          Since you want to CAPITALIZE words, here is one for you…where is the babie’s CHOICE when they are in the womb?

        • Logo4245

          “anti-woman, pro-embryonic psychpatic morality?” These pro-infanticide only support one side of the issue. There is NO choice in their minds, only abortion. My goodness – I hope you never have children or even a puppy.

        • http://twitter.com/lisajulia65 Lisa Julia

           What are you…Five?  So angry for such a young one.  We will pray for you =)

        • Gingrichfe

          Unless the abortion procedure fails to adequately kill the infant, and you finish the job in the daylight; that’s the “medical procedure” Obama voted to protect.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/USLUWBVDAZ66RV3EIZZXRIDJYI Heather White

          wow… do you read what you write before posting… you just showed pure ignorance. a baby is a baby in and out of a womb, there’s no magical layer that transforms you from a fetus to a baby when the baby is born. and how are pro-life such as myself, “anti-woman” I am a woman, I am not against myself or any other woman, we’re throwing out there the dangers of abortion and how it is murder to the baby and not good on your body unlike PP or any pro-choice would like to face or admit. if anyone is anti-woman is PP and people for pro-choice. and clearly it’s sad to see how you wish we’re aborted, I would never wish that upon you or any pro-choice personally no matter how ignorant you are. every human deserves to live.

        • eric in NJ

          uhhh, if it’s not born it cannot be murdered. Listen up Professor, every state has in its criminal code provisions that make the attack on a pregnant woman a murder if the attack results in the death of a child? Facts are indeed pesky things you condescending moron

          • Stormys

            to eric in nj…Murder is the unlawful killing, with malice aforethought, of another human…you really are struggling with you grade school education, eh…

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/USLUWBVDAZ66RV3EIZZXRIDJYI Heather White

            I think he was only quoting what foreverfree666 said before stating what he had to say.

          • dominoe4

            Oh, so you and foreverfree get to define ‘murder’. How convenient. Radical Islamists don’t think they are murdering if they kill an ‘infidel’. Your ‘malice’ definition, to them, does not count, they are simply doing Allah’s will. And what of profits? One can kill for profit…just as Planned Parenthood makes a profit from their State-sanctioned murder. People have been killed for greed without actual ‘malice’. Do yourself a favor…stay away from the ‘definition’ creationism as a form of argument. You suck at it. 

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OGFPEVZA3J4KPSXAMBHRUMJO2M Laurie

          That’s interesting, since many states have adopted legislation which allows for two murder convictions when a pregnant mother who WANTS her baby is murdered and the child also dies.  So actually, the pre-born CAN be murdered, as it turns out.

          And, I am a PRO-woman, pro-CHILD female, by the way.  Apparently, your mother was as well.

        • It’s a Life

           ”If it’s not BORN it cannot be murdered.” That makes no sense!  So, a viable baby has no value in your eyes, just a few inches from the outside world?  You need to educate yourself about fetal development.  Like most liberals, do you have a “Love Everyone No Exceptions” bumper sticker right next to your pro-abortion sticker?  Based on your language and the way you speak, I can tell you have a lot of anger & sadness.  I hope you learn about love.

        • Lovelife

          Sounds like freeforever666 was an unsuccessful abortion as well. Soo much hate for those that protect lives……I think you need to be fighting in Afghanistan on the front lines so we can have those soilders come back to their families that love life.

        • guvhog

           Oh really??? Then why, if a man kills an expectant mother and her fetus
          which she wants to keep, is that man charged with 2 counts of murder and
          not 1???

        • Katebrierley

          What a sick disgusting little person you are forever 666.  

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1298938275 William Bush

          It’s funny how you people think that anti-abortion is anti-women. I’m pro-choice. I’m also pro-accountability. You chose the actions that got You pregnant and now it is no longer just Your life in the mix, it’s the child’s life too. Whether a baby yet or not, a fetus Is alive, and now You need to be Accountable. Please at the very least just put the child up for adoption so it can grow and develop in a nurturing home,

        • zapped

          does a human being have the same dna as a fetus as that being will have at age 65? yes.

          Is that fetus alive? Yes

          Is there any a huge shift or rapid transformation in the development between that of newborn baby and a fetus that is hours from being born? No.

          You are no more alive than a fetus chief. It’s murder.

        • Biffmalibu

           And yet another example to prove the authors point.

        • Anorman2x

           So killing something with a heartbeat isn’t considered murder???  Last time I checked the definition of murder it went along those lines.  So before most women even realize their pregnant their baby has a heartbeat.  Hmmm…sounds to me like murder, whether you kill it in womb or out of the womb!  Maybe people would think twice about abortion if they knew they were going to be charged with murder like they would if they killed their children after they were born. 

        • Jmm

          “If it’s not born it cannot be murdered.” Hmmmm, right. That’s why if someone kills a woman who is pregnant, that person gets charged with double homicide. It’s called the Unborn Victims of Violence Act.That reality must make you feel really stupid right now. Idiot.

          • MoonChild02

            Why resort to name calling? Really, we’re better than that. We shouldn’t stoop to their level.

        • Anonymous

          If you don’t like abortion, don’t have an abortion.
          If you don’t like slavery, don’t have a slave.
          If you don’t like the holocaust, don’t kill Jews.
          If you don’t genocide, don’t kill people.
          See how much your logic doesn’t make sense? I’m pretty sure you’re glad your mother chose life. Otherwise, you’d be dead. It’s sad to say she actually had the CHOICE to keep you alive. As if you’re some kind of punishment, but you’re really not. You just need to think more before you type, because your logic makes absolutely no sense. Think a little.

        • Mitchell A.

          An unborn child is still a human being and still has human rights, and that includes the right to live. Nobody has the right to kill for convenience, and abortion is murder for the convenience of others. And as a little side note; a psychopath is a person who has a total lack of empathy and remorse, and have very shallow emotions. I believe that every life is precious, and that no one has the right to kill unborn children. You believe that it is ok to murder innocent human beings simply because it would be convenient. You show a total lack of empathy and remorse in believing that murder is ok, and you show very shallow emotions on the basis that you have a total disregard for human life. You the definition of a psychopath. 

        • Guest

          Wow! That sure blows. You think all of us should be aborted? 

          Stop throwing insults and threats at us!    

          We are not anti-woman. Abortion hurts women deeply! And that fetus IS a baby. It’s a unique human life just like us. That’s what every biology book teaches us.

          We are for choice for everyone, not just a select few.

        • Musiciangirl591

           in PA, if you kill a pregnant woman, you are eligible for the death penalty, its counted as 2 lives…

        • MoonChild02

          Most women don’t choose abortion! My aunt didn’t want an abortion, she ended up devastated over it, and died!
          http://www.theunchoice.org/
          http://www.silentnomoreawareness.org/

          BTW, we are for born people and for women, which is why I’m against abortion. Pro-lifers run pregnancy resource centers, which help with food, clothing, shelter, medical, education, job training and resources, baby items, etc.
          http://www.feministsforlife.org/

        • Soulwinner

          666,   I hate political correctness and that is what the term pro choice is. What is the opposite of life? It is death. You are either pro life or pro death.
          Research a man named Bernard Nathanson,M.D. who co founded NARAL an abortion group. Nathanson knew they were killing a baby in the womb but he and his partners were liars and came up with the deceptive term pro choice that people bought into. It made abortion palatable. You stop political correctness by revealing the truth. Abortion is murder a violation of the 6th commandment              soulwinner

        • Staplefordr

          Don’t like infanticide-don’t kill your baby! Who are you to force your view of humanity and personhood on desparate young mothers? After all, many bioethicists don’t view the newborn as a person because they lack self-awareness and have only minimal self-consciousness, and when you oppose infanticideyou are forcing your view of personhood on desparate people, a view that some bioethicists share. After all, what is the difference between a fetus or an embreyo and an infant? An infant is larger, viable, more developed, and looks more human. However, if personhood depends on looking human, than the Elephant Man would not have been a person with the right to life because of his grotesque appearance. If personhood and right to life depended on size, level of development, or level of dependancy, which is essentially what viability is, then infants would be less of a people with less of a right to life than adults. After all, they are smaller than adults, a lot less developed, and completely dependant on constant adult supervision and care for survival.

      • http://www.allourlives.org/ TooManyJens

        It’s not actually necessary to lie about liberalism in order to respond to a heartless post from a pro-choicer. You don’t even know that the person you’re replying to is a liberal, and even if they are, you’re kidding yourself if you don’t think there are conservatives who act the same way.

      • dfwfire127

        mike, you hit the nail on the head.  i have always observed liberal ideology to be emotion-based, in spite of the facts.  it “feels good” to be “pro-choice”, even as the facts of abortion are ignored or even unknown.  it “feels good” to say everyone deserves health care, but when asked of the liberal from whom the money comes from, you get more emoting and perhaps some reference to the evil of Bush or Fox News.  liberalism is nothing but a bunch of feel-good buzzwords destined for Smart Car bumper stickers.  laughable !

      • Anadrs23

        You can’t assume that pro-aborts are all liberals, some LIBERALS are pro-LIFE…

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Brown/1363270295 David Brown

      Another ignorant statement with 21 ignorant likes.  Look up the word, ‘infanticide’! And then explain why at the time when Obama was Senator, he  was the only Senator to vote for infanticide, and why would their even be votes taken for something you say is impossible to happen?

    • AJ

      Tell that Melissa. And Gianna Jensen. And all the other abortion survivors that are just dying to know (forgive the pun) why you think it’s okay that they should die.

    • It’s a Life

       It is possible with saline abortions and attempted “partial birth abortions” if the body expels the baby before the doctor has a chance to jam scissors into his/her skull.  Some doctors have gone on to kill the baby who was “accidentally” delivered.

    • Jimwyse

      If you were trying to demonstrate your superior intelligence, I don’t think you succeeded.

    • Musiciangirl591

      did you even read the article?

    • guest

      So bb, what would you call her? Her mother attempted to abort her and she survived the ordeal. That seems to shorten nicely to “abortion survivor.”

    • dontdoubtme

      So let me understand your logic…lets say you attempt an abortion, but it fails, and the baby lives, is born, and grows up. 

      Please explain to me, how that is not being an abortion survivor?

      Is it not the attempt of an abortion that you survive enough?

    • Hovish13

      It’s quite possible, beastybeast. No medicine is perfect, including the “medicine” that the abortion industry practices.

  • Lily

    I think the people who believe Melissa had their brains aborted. 

  • Lionesspride

    Actually, beautybeast, nothing is impossible. There are people who have survived abortions. Don’t believe it? Just take 30 seconds and google it. And JJ, there is a quote by Mother Teresa that you and many should ponder, “It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish.” Abortion has nothing to do with “respect for the woman”. It’s all about selfishness,  ignorance, lies,  hatred, money, money, oh and if I didn’t mention it,  money. If you believe that people should have the right to choose, then what do think an unborn child would choose? They are people. Think about the Holocaust and the mentality of the Nazis. They saw the Jews as not human, unwanted, and unworthy of life. It’s the same thing that’s happening here in America with the unborn. They are also seen as not human, unwanted, and unworthy of life. You should check out the movie “180″ on YouTube. It’s truly eye opening.

    • Grace

      Mother Teresa was a cold-hearted bitch. Are you purposely trying to be stupid? It’s about the mother and her choices and her bodily autonomy. It costs more to give birth than to have an abortion.

      “There are people who have survived abortions. Don’t believe it? Just take 30 seconds and google it.”

      If you Google search that a load of anti-choice lies and propaganda appears. Do you think we’re dumb enough to fall for that?

      An unborn foetus isn’t a ‘child’, it’s a foetus. They aren’t people in the eyes of the law. 

      And making a disgusting comparison of abortion to the holocaust? You should be ashamed. Comparing thinking, feeling, sentient, born humans subjected to torture and watching their families be ripped apart and killed before their eyes to a removal of something that can’t feel a thing at the time most abortions take place (most abortions take place before 12 weeks.) is absolutely disgusting and insensitive. 

      The movie “180″ is incredibly ridiculous, the guy isn’t even a jew. He’s a liar. It’s filled with lies. I watched it and I’m still pro-choice, because I see women as people not walking incubators with no choice regarding their own bodies.  

      • Hovish13

        Oh the ignorance.. The term “Jew” applies to both a religion and an ethnicity. You can be of Jewish descent and not practice Judaism.

      • dominoe4

        “Do you think we’re dumb enough to fall for that?”. Just based on your post and your ideology, I think you’re dumb enough to fall for anything.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DDYNWPRBKLQNXFFXJR3BD52CZE DG

         ”An unborn foetus isn’t a ‘child’, it’s a foetus. They aren’t people in the eyes of the law. ”

        “Fetus” is a Latin word meaning “young one”. That is to say, an unborn child. Calling the unborn a baby or a child is normal English usage.
        Denying the truth of this for reasons of political advocacy is Orwellian.  Doing so in the context of promoting acceptance of the killing of unborn children is macabre.

      • http://twitter.com/lisajulia65 Lisa Julia

         Grace, you were given a beautiful name. I am sorry that your research has produced the conclusions you have made.  Your comments are offensive, and you do not back up any of your statements with any facts.  You are so sure that the information that is online or in films or books is merely propaganda, but you provide not facts to back this up. 
        A fetus, by the way, IS a person in the eyes of the law.  If you do some research on this, you will find that there are people serving time in prison for murdering pregnant women.  That is fact, not propaganda. As just one example, Google Laci Denise Peterson.  Her husband is on death row for her murder and the murder of their unborn child.
        As for comparing abortion to the Holocaust, it’s apples to apples. You make the argument that a fetus can’t feel…You know full well that abortion is legal all the way through the 9th month and that science disproves your comments regarding fetal pain. 
        Nice try.

        • Oedipa Mossmonn

          While Grace is googling Laci Peterson, she should also key in Bei Bei Shuai. Or Rennie Gibbs. Or Amanda Kimbrow. Those are sad examples of laws protecting the foetus being turned on women who, in eyes of the men enforcing the law, didn’t adequately nurture their pregnancy. Or as Grace might put it, they weren’t adequate incubators. The first two are up on murder charges. The third on “chemical endangerment”.

          • http://twitter.com/lisajulia65 Lisa Julia

            i am familiar with those cases.  The law is a funny thing, and inconsistent at best.  The issue being that the value of a human life doesn’t change simply because the mother did or didn’t plan the pregnancy.  Not really sure where you were going with these examples, but thank you for posting them.

      • Musiciangirl591

         Mother Teresa was a cold hearted bitch? are you making references to her 50 year dark night of the soul? she served the poor of Calcutta for many many years…

  • http://www.facebook.com/vincent.lovece1 Vincent Lovece

    So, they are wishing that this woman was never alive? Are they angry at her for simply living? I’m not sure what to make of it. They sound like real… I don’t want to say it on this site. I won’t sink to their level. 

  • Sonja

    Love you Melissa! You are a wonderful voice for so many who are voiceless! And a friend to those who are so heartless in their comments on here… Love never fails!

    • Vitty

      heartless comments? you mean truthful comments? :)

      • Rootstudio

        After reading their vulgarity and hateful comments, I’d definitely go with “heartless”. Show me one truthful statement…..just one…………..

        • Kirstenfinger

           Or even any statement from a pro-abort on here that doesn’t even either name calling or a profanity…..

      • Musiciangirl591

         truthful? i think truth goes away with insults and language…

  • JimmyLovesChachi

    It’s obvious you doctored these photos and deleted certain comments

    • Figaro

      Other than editing some vulgarities, how exactly is it obvious that the statements were doctored?

      Unless you’re trolling, offer your obvious evidence.

      • Rootstudio

        Commentors like this never offer any kind of evidence or proof….typical.

  • Figaro

    Of course the story is to sway you to her side of thinking. That’s true of everystory ever written ….

    • Rootstudio

      ….and your point is?

  • Rootstudio

    The vitriol and hatred that spews from pro-choice/progressives is a sight to behold.

     After having my son in my stomach for nine months and feeling this separate human being kicking and moving about, it boggles my mind how anyone could think that a baby is just a pile of molecules directly related to the woman’s body. A baby is a separate human being and any mom who’s been pregnant should know this.

    Kudos to Melissa-remember, despite the planned parenthood’s supporters hatred and the MSM’s slanted support of such, there are many of us who stand with you.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NAQPRH2S5FD35Q55RL7JT36MBE 665 the neighbor of the beast

    where is the logic and class in laughing at an abortion survivor…HA HA ….MOMMY DIDNT WANT YOU BUT SHE GOT STUCK WITH YOU ANYWAY…people are awful. I would like to know how the girl took the news that her mom tried to off her? oh honey by the way…..” I TRIED TO KILL YOU DURING THE CARTER ADMINISTRATION”…I am one of the people who would love to not tell someone what they should do with their body..but for me their isnt a choice. i have a 3 year old son that is everything to me…I just couldn’t see myself smothering him with a pillow so i am against abortion. In a perfect world things could be decided in an easier way….but we dont get our mail in perfect

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7YYDRWE2BJROXGJTH4EVAFKEIU Miss Hartigan

    That’s a very touching article, but if it’s still in the womb, then it’s still up to the woman.   As for stupid, immature, completely idiotic comments, well, those are made by both groups. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DDYNWPRBKLQNXFFXJR3BD52CZE DG

      Some regard the womb as as a sanctuary for the protection of innocent new lives.
      Some regard the womb as a killing zone.
      If there is no God, of course anyone can think whatever he wants.
      But if there is a God, consider the claim in justice the aborted child has before God against those who promoted the “freedom to choose”.
      Being able to advocate for a crime may not prove the same as being able to go scott-free for doing so.

  • freeforever666

    You lot came to the PP page first, whining about why women give a shit about their rights.
    You know it’s bad enough that men hate women, but I tell you; if there’s a Hell, there’s a special place for women who hate women in it. You’ll be among your lot there at least.

    • Musiciangirl591

       so all my guy friends and my guy family members and my boyfriend all hate me because they think i deserve better than PP and abortion?

  • dontdoubtme

    The rights of an unborn baby today are not unlike the dred scott decision and the rights of blacks in the 1800′s… at least blacks were considered 3/5ths of a person- an unborn baby is not considered a person at all. 

    Every time the term “fetus” is used, it marginalizes the life of an unborn baby.

    It reminds me of how words are used in our language to take the humanity away from someone. To me its identical to how the “N” word is used to describe a black person as something less than human.

    • Jdjdjeeeeerrrryyy

      Fetus is a medically approved term so I don’t see what your problem is. Furthermore a fetus or baby or what have you, in the womb is not being discriminated against because they are a different race. Everyone is on equal ground with this one as a baby of any race can be aborted

      • dontdoubtme

        I find this argument beside the point. The medical term fetus is used because it is more palatable than saying we are aborting an unborn baby…which justifies my saying that language is used to de-humanize the unborn. 

        Funny, but I hardly ever hear “medical terms” used commonly otherwise, or do you call all your friends “homo sapiens” too?

        I stand by what I said earlier: calling a baby a fetus to make it easier to abort it is just like when calling a black person the N word made it easier to treat it as a slave.

        Its ok to abort him- Its just a fetus.
        is the same as
        Its ok to own him…He’s just a n*****

        • 12angry_men

          The term “fetus” is not just used when describing abortion. That is what I think the point was. The term is something that is medically accurate and is scientifically used. And yes, scientific journals will refer to people as homo sapiens, so I don’t see what your point is?

          • dontdoubtme

            Are you being obtuse on purpose or is this just your natural comprehension level coming through?

            I am arguing that the term “fetus” is stilted and would be as appropriate to use for an unborn baby as it is to call people homo sapiens in everyday life…which NEVER happens. 

            Furthermore, I believe it is a contrived effort to use the scientific term “fetus” in lieu of calling it a baby, because that way it makes it in a way less than human, and far more easier to justify killing.

            Here’s a fun fact: “fetus” is a latin word which means “offspring” or child. 

            It does not mean something less than human that can be killed on a whim, which is what you interpret it as.

          • 12angry_men

            Are you make sweeping generalizations on purpose or is your natural comprehension level coming through? See I can throw insults around too, but it doesn’t actually make me any smarter now does it?

            What *I* interpret fetus to mean is not something less than human that can be killed on a whim. Or is it? Guess what, you don’t know that from an online post in which I never stated what my position was. Out of habit I use the term baby in most cases, but I do not see the problem with a medically correct term that many doctors themselves use. The word “fetus” is harmless. You give it power when you make such a big deal out of using it. 

            And really? Come on. I know what the word “fetus” means.  

          • dontdoubtme

            In all your comments to me you’ve failed to offer a rebuttal to my argument.

            I see a more nefarious purpose in using the term fetus, but if you dont I guess we will just leave it at that.

            I bet there were a lot of people who didnt see the harm in calling blacks N***** either. 

          • 12angry_men

            Except N***** isn’t a medically accurate and accepted term. And I find it interesting that you have a problem with the word “fetus” when most pro life people have no problem with it whatsoever.

          • dontdoubtme

            Maybe I’m just more in tune with the semantics game you pro-deathers have been playing for years to make abortion more palatable. 

            Oh sorry, I mean pro-”choice”. See what I mean by semantics? Changing one little word means alot doesn’t it.

            And not to split hairs here, but there is a scientific term that refers to an African racial origin - and its referred to as “Negroid”.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negroid

            But I’m guessing you won’t be using that scientific term quite so freely as you would use “fetus.”

          • Jdjdjeeeeerrrryyy

            How do you even know men is pro choice? Did you not pay attention at all to his comment on that? Do you often go around making assumptions about people you know nothing about?

          • dontdoubtme

            LOL Good one. 

            So 12angrymen is pro-life? Someone needs to tell them that means they are AGAINST abortion then. 

            Perhaps they can clear it up better, because “how do you know what I am?” is hardly the stern rebuttal of me calling them pro-choice that you seem to think it is.

            In fact, If someone called me pro-choice, Id have much more to say on how wrong they are then “How do you know” which doesn’t in any way say Im wrong. 

          • 12angry_men

            Never said I was FOR abortion now did I? 

          • 12angry_men

            You don’t know anything about me, yet you stoop to judging me and making false statements about me. But that’s okay, if you think that gives your words more power then go right ahead and keep doing it. But let me tell you, you aren’t going to convert any actual “pro deathers” if you keep that mentality up. 

      • MoonChild02

         They may not be discriminated against because of race, but they are discriminated against because of age, size, location, and level of comprehension. That’s still discrimination, and it’s illegal to discriminate against born people because of those differences.

        • 12angry_men

          I don’t think that was the point that was being addressed at all; I think you are reading too far into things. 

  • fetus

    The most pathetic thing about this “story”, is this propaganda webpage actually putting these screenshots up without protecting people’s privacy. BTW Jennie, I actively participated in that thread and Don Winant went through the posts and edited the thread. If you had the gumption to go and retrieve the whole thread, you would have seen that he was actively provoking them and hurling insults. they were being obnoxious so that he would stop trolling the page. But any organization that employs a liar like Abby Johnson probably has no qualms about reporting what is in essence BS. So kudos to you for an absolutely worthless story. And yeah, stay out of my uterus.

  • Lily

    As long as there are nitwits like you around, I will always abort. And unlike Melissa, I will make sure she’s aborted so she can’t go off and be an attention whore and make up lies about how she “survived” an abortion.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SRVNQDQMTPYZ46OX6SIKYM55AY °o.OÑÛߧO.o°

      You’re one sick individual.

    • Musiciangirl591

       disgusting…

      • 12angry_men

        Quit replying to trolls!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Destiny-Gonzalez/100000339164150 Destiny Gonzalez

    You DO KNOW that the saline solution BURNS. That it is HORRIFICLY PAINFUL. That a baby would TRY to scream in reflex. Thus causing the child to suck in the saline solution.

  • ExTexasWoman

    Since you SEEM to think you own the moral high ground in this debate of our Freedom to Choose, why do you send Don Winant to the Planned Parenthood Facebook page…to then edit comments out of context? Do you ALSO approve of him making lewd suggestions to our members and trolling us for a dates and sex?? I see you also conveinently left out where he makes misogynistic comments to members looks and speculates about their personal sex lives, how he would like to “get” with some of our supporters? Is THIS the way you support your organization, by having your members use the Planned Parenthood page as a dating site? 
    I am proud that I live in a country that gives me my Freedom to Choose. That I grew up with an organization like Planned Parenthood that offerred low income women a resource for pap smears, mammogram payment vouchers, UTI treatment, PRE AND POST NATAL CARE, adoption referrals and much, much more. But if it helps your cause to desseminate lies about PP and use your members to perpetuate those lies, then I guess you really DON’T have “the moral high ground.” My Body= My Choice. And you trying to impose your religious and personal beliefs on how I manage my personal healthcare is unwelcome and not needed. And BTW, feel free to edit away…this post will show, in it’s entirety…on sources of MY choice. That same Freedom of Choice that I have LEGALLY to a safe and medically supervised abortion.

  • Logo4245

    The Pro-Infanticide crowd is all the same. It is not pro-choice anymore because they only support one choice in every instance. Used to be pro-choice but they got ugly and I got a conscience.

  • Oedipa Mossmonn

    So, you’ve stooped to picking a fight with trolls on the interwebs. How valorous. I realize this is a well-worn column for bloggers, and it almost writes itself, because people on the interwebs can be write such stupid, caustic, and baffoonish nonsense. For a little taste of this, I suggest you go over to Fox News and look at what’s written about Georgetown’s Sandra Fluke. The paint-peeling hatred on the comments section puts your little tract here to shame.

  • bluechimera

    Wait, people were mean and dismissive on the *Internet*?? You don’t say!

    Why is this even a story?

    Ignorant pro-choicers are no more representative of us than ignorant pro-lifers are representative of you.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=681473501 Clarissa Masnaghetti

      There is ignorance on both sides of any large debate and making sweeping generalizations about one side or another based on comments such as these does absolutly nothing to help either cause.  I can certainly agree with you on that, thank you for pointing it out.

  • http://twitter.com/lisajulia65 Lisa Julia

    Some of the most hate-filled, vile comments i’ve come across. #whyiwillneverbeproabortion

    • 12angry_men

      Maybe if you quit feedin the trolls then you guys wouldn’t keep seeing those comments. 

      • dontdoubtme

        Yeah- how dare live action news have a website with pro-life opinions that upsets us trolls!

        • Musiciangirl591

          yeah thats just ridiculous how an organization dedicated to saving lives should have a website! 

        • Jdjdjeeeeerrrryyy

          Do you know what feeding a troll means buddy?

          • dontdoubtme

            Of course- Im doing it right now.

          • 12angry_men

            Give yourself a gold star

          • dontdoubtme

            So how is it living under a bridge anyway? It has to be chilly in the winter.

          • Jdjdjeeeeerrrryyy

            You must be freezing, seeing as how your heart is made of ice.

          • dontdoubtme

            LOL sure…because not wanting babies to be murdered means I HAVE the icy heart. 

            Do you even put any thought into your quips? because that was stupid. 

  • Pro life for life

    What amazes me is that pro choicers chant and cheer that women are free to kill the life in them and that these women feel no regret. Yet, if someone they know has a miscarriage they sadly say “I am so sorry for you loss”. Why say that in a miscarriage situation if you believe aborting at the same stage is ok because you think it is not really a human being? Could you be more hypocritical?

    • Jdjdjeeeeerrrryyy

      It’s probably because in one situation the woman wants the baby, in the other she doesn’t

      • Meister

        Why does that matter? Either it is human or not.

        • Jdjdjeeeeerrrryyy

          Because if the mother wanted the baby then she would be sad she lost it. Usually right after an abortion, not always of course, the mother will not be so why would a person say sorry?

        • Jdjdjeeeeerrrryyy

          Because if the mother wanted the baby then she would be sad she lost it. Usually right after an abortion, not always of course, the mother will not be so why would a person say sorry?

  • Hagenfun

    if a baby does not breath in the womb, why is it a concern when meconium can get in the baby’s lung during birth. Not a good arguement.

  • Annika

    Everyone needs to stop with the name calling. Am I pro-life? Yes. Being pro-life, all of us are used to really rough, degrading speech. Can we please just take the higher road? Are we really going to use language like “we can’t expect better from these people”? Ugh, I know what it’s like to be considered part of “these people” and it’s so un-Christlike! Already there are responses that include “you people.” And we’re going to call other humans, who deserve the same dignity and respect as the infants we fight for, pathetic? This article has some great information, but does absolutely no good for the pro-life cause because it was written in such a mud-slinging fashion. Sorely disappointed. Inspire love, not anger and judgement. 

  • Gingrichfe

    I became a “right to life” advocate at age eleven, long before I knew what abortion is.  While living in Alaska I met an Eskimo lady who was rescued by a stranger from willful infant exposure.  The custom was for a shelter (sometimes an igloo) to be built on the ice for chld-birthing.  After the birth, the mother would raise a little flag to indicate a girl or boy.  If the father wanted the infant, he would go out and bring back the mother and child.  If the father did not respond, the mother would come in, by herself. 

  • bandlj

    The juvenile language, name calling and gelneral immaturity of the “responses” from the pro-abortion supporters certainly doesn’t do much to gain sympathy for their arguements.  Yes, you are all so very impressive.  *sarcasm*

  • Laurensim

    Thank you Jennie. Hook’em.

  • Hutttnertina47

    @ beastybeast,well I guess your pretty much denying that there is a god and when you do that you don’t go to heaven cause god will deny you the heavnly kingdom:(

  • Obashucky

    Thats why its called choice. I’m sure its not an easy one but its still that persons CHOICE!!! Hop on your high horse and preach what you want, but, remember you seem to feel to have the right to sound off on your own views, lets not forget about others. I know, as long as you have your Bible tucked under your arms You are ” RIGHT” and there is NO other side th the situation. Shame on you…

    • Abby

       You certainly did/do have a choice.  You can choose to take steps to make sure you don’t get pregnant.  

      • Oedipa Mossmonn

         Like … access to contraceptives!

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DDYNWPRBKLQNXFFXJR3BD52CZE DG

           Like… rejecting the practice of loose morals!

          • Oedipa Mossmonn

            I pray for you people. Really. I pray that one day, you can enjoy a normal, pleasurable sex life.

          • Musiciangirl591

             what’s normal? normal for me is after marriage :P

          • Oedipa Mossmonn

            Great. I’d argue that isn’t necessary, but I respect people who believe that. What I don’t respect is the viewpoint that married people shouldn’t have access to proper family planning, or that your prescription of abstinence is the what the rest of the country can prescribe to. That’s a fairy tale.

          • musiciangirl591

             proper family planning? so pumping a woman’s body full of chemicals is proper and normal?

          • dominoe4

            But you expect others to prescribe to and tolerate your pro-abortion stance, even to pay for it.

        • Musiciangirl591

           like… not having sex at all, being chaste isn’t so hard, self control isn’t so hard, my boyfriend and i live 3 hours away (different colleges), do you think that when we get together to see each we have sex, nope, because its self control…

          • 12angry_men

            So married couples who live together aren’t supposed to have sex? Especially women with inconsistent cycles who can’t practice FP? What a horrible thing to insinuate.  

          • Musiciangirl591

             NFP isn’t the rhythm method, its different now and not that hard to do, i’m 19 and i can do it… and what is horrible about self control? just because me and Craig don’t do it when we see each other doesn’t mean that we value our time together any less..

          • Oedipa Mossmonn

            Good on ya. But what’s a prescription for you needn’t be a prescription for everyone.

          • dominoe4

            Oh yes, but in liberal pro-abortion land, what isn’t a prescription for one must still be paid for by them for the others. Hypocrite.

        • dominoe4

          If you don’t have access to contraception, you’re hopelessly incompetent or live in Somalia or something. Ridiculous assertion. Grow up.

  • MJM

    Oh you poor liberal left wingers.  How sad that you do not cherish babies.  At the point of conception they are a baby.  And shame on you who think murdering them is OK.  Some day you will give an account of your decision.  Just talk to a nurse who used to attend at the abortion clinics and suddenly realized that murder was happening every day, many times a day.  What did she do?  She left, and bless her for doing that.  

  • Sinner

    Oh Jesus, friend of sinners
    Open our eyes to the world at the end of our pointing fingers
    Let our hearts be led by mercy
    Help us reach with open hearts and open doors
    Oh Jesus, friend of sinners, break our hearts for what breaks yours

  • Eliza Rush

    This makes me cry . . . i feel terrible that people r blinded that abortion surviors have no right to live. All in all everone in the whole world has no right to live but God has given us the PRIVILEGE to live!

  • Idontwantyoutoemailme

    People like this make me want to throw up, they’re sick. And stupid. So stupid that it hurts.  WHY THE HELL WOULD ANYONE MAKE THIS UP!? You retards would rather call it “bullshit” and believe it’s a lie, than face the truth and suck it up. People can survive Saline Solution Abortions. In fact, they do all the time. Just stop being pussies and face the facts. ABORTION STOPS A BEATING HEART, IT KILLS CHILDREN. Don’t give me that “If you don’t like abortion, don’t have one” crap. That’s like saying, “If you don’t agree with slavery don’t own a slave.” Retards.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/VSG4ZINXB5WKWEZZMN7O5ELFFI Ric

      So does the death penalty and war. That is why we must stop our government from permitting anything that kills people.  We should also take away the second amendment because guns kill people every day in this country. Much more than abortion.

      • Spiritisfree

        Actually…abortion kills more per day. Check your facts. It’s about 76 to 1. 

        • Oedipa Mossmonn

           Uh, I get about half that, or 39 to 1, but point taken.

      • Hovish13

        It’s not that the government cannot sanction killing people- the Constitution sanctions things like war, and gives states the ability to decide their own punishment, like the death penalty. The issue is that abortion is the sanctioning of the killing of a certain group of weak, dependent individuals. The government should not permit abortion- it is the discrimination and withholding of rights from the most vulnerable of our society.

        And your gun analogy is flawed. It would be like me saying “forceps and vacuums kill the unborn, make them illegal!” No, it’s the people killing the unborn, and it’s people committing gun crimes.

      • MoonChild02

        It’s unjust war that is the problem, not defensive war. Defensive war fights against aggressors that are an immediate threat. Unjust war is invading other countries and cultures for non-defensive reasons.

        I agree that the death penalty is wrong, because they’re alive for a reason, the legal system in this country is not perfect and many have been falsely convicted, and it costs us more money to put them to death than to keep them in prison for life without possibility of parole.

        If you take away the Second Amendment, that gives the government the right to strip away any other part of the Bill of Rights, including the First Amendment. I agree that guns kill a lot of people, but many people have them just to protect themselves. Some have them because they’re officers of the law, and need them to protect and serve. Others collect historic arms, and many even use them for re-enactments (with blanks). Guns are also used in theatre, television, and film. There are many reasons that people own guns, other than to use for perpetrating violent acts. I own swords because I collect them, and use them for re-enactment. I don’t use them for actual violence, and, in fact, I refuse to do so. I have friends who do the same with guns. If you take away guns, you can take away swords, then knives, pitchforks, mallets, bats, shillelaghs, etc. I have been told by a friend in the armed forces that the most dangerous weapon is a ball-point pen, because if you stick it in someone’s thigh, the ink gets sucked into the blood, and it poisons the person. I don’t know about you, but I happen to like my pens, thank you very much.

  • Musiciangirl591

     ugh… what do you expect from PP supporters? pathetic people who don’t have anything else to do then to make fun of an abortion survivor…

    • 12angry_men

      Please don’t belittle them. Sound familiar? And really, I’m sure you know every single PP supporter so you can make that broad generalization about them. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001171348081 Alyssa Lauer

    It’s interesting that all of the profanity in the comments is coming from pro-choicers.  Hmmm…Could it be they have nothing better to say? I was raised to view profanity as something you resort to when you have nothing coherent to say.

    • 12angry_men

      Trust me, profanity comes from both sides; people also resort to it when they get really angry or frustrated.  

      • Oedipa Mossmonn

        Or when they’re on the interwebs. Visited a Fox News comment section lately? Oboy. Paint-peeling.

  • Pro life for life

    I saw a lot of posts talking about embryo and fetus. For those of you interested in research, I would implore you to look up the meaning of each word in the dictionary. It is technically not a scientific set of words. They are Greek and, for the most part, just mean “little one”. Nothing in their definition implies they are not or less than human.

  • 루갈이

    Practice breathing . . . People aren’t familiar with practice breathing? When did this happen?

  • Valkryie05

    Story doesn’t add up. Youngest baby born premature was 21 weeks and 6 days and weighed 10 oz. They are saying this lady was born at 17 weeks and weighed 2.86 lbs? Something isn’t right. You do not have to like abortion but it is legal in the United States so deal with it.

    • Musiciangirl591

       where does it say she was 17 weeks? and that logic doesn’t make sense to me, it kinda sounds like if you don’t like the idea of owning slaves, don’t own them, don’t like genocide? don’t do it, don’t like rape? don’t rape people, don’t like stealing? don’t steal then…

      • Valkryie05

        http://www.melissaohden.com/wp-content/gallery/melissa-ohden/nFFL3.jpg

        It actually says estimated at 18 weeks. Her last period on May 1st and had the baby on August 29th.

        I am a firm believer of personal responsibility. Is abortion wrong? I would never have a wife or girlfriend do it but it should be her choice. We live in a world where people thought alcohol being made illegal would solve problems but it made things worse. People think if abortion is illegal that it will stop happening, but it will get worse. I personally think better education for people of safe sex and contraception is best.

        • dominoe4

          Yeah, thank God for Philly’s Dr. Gosnell’s patiences that abortion is legal. Just think what horrors they might have had to face if not.

  • Musiciangirl591

     sidewalk counseling? i can do it….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VSG4ZINXB5WKWEZZMN7O5ELFFI Ric

    You’re using facebook as your source for a news story? Extremely credible. I thought you had names of people willing to put their names down and have an interview. You just took comments from facebook, where people talk out of their asses all of the time. It’s like using wikipedia as your source. Use something credible.

    • Oedipa Mossmonn

      Uh, Ric. This is the same site that actually used dating advice from eHarmony (vis-a-vis abusive relationships), married it to some preconceived notions about Planned Parenthood’s imminent demise, and vomited forth what hey thought was “organizational analysis”. It woulda been funny if … well, it was kinda funny, but for the wrong reasons.

  • Spiritisfree1

    Statistics for how many children have been aborted since Roe v Wade. Fifty-four million = 58.6 percent of Generation Y and 71 percent of the Baby Boomer Generation. It is also 12 million more than the entire population of Generation X. Abortion has truly created a “lost generation.” No one wants to talk about the huge economic impact of this. There are not enough people to contribute to taking care of the aging “baby boomer” generation and certainly not enough to replace population. China will collapse economically because of their “One Child” mandate. They have also had to institute quotas for female children as the population is extremely lopsided. India passed a law that fines the doctor if they abort a female child just for being female. And then there is the “wrongful birth” lawsuits because…horrors…their child has Down’s Syndrome and they wanted a “perfect” baby. The whole mess is sick. 

    • Valkyie05

      China is doing better because of the one child mandate as they have a more manageable number of people that they can care for. China is doing much much better than most markets in the world and you believe they will fail economically because of the one child mandate? Talk about speaking from out of your behind. You are not accounting for many things. 1)How many abortions would take place even if it was illegal? 2)How does having a longer life expectancy come into play? 3)What would we do with 54 million people added on to the problems we have?

      • dominoe4

        What would we do with 54 million people added on to the problems we have? Oh…I don’t know…maybe more taxpayers to try and pay down the Obama-induced astronomical debt? Since, it is apparently up to you to decide what people constitute an additional problem and that they are automatically a problem by virtue of their potential existence, why don’t you do us and the planet a favor?…and make it 54,000,001.

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  • dominoe4

    Oh, so you and foreverfree get to define ‘murder’. How convenient. Radical Islamists don’t think they are murdering if they kill an ‘infidel’. Your ‘malice’ definition is, to them, the work of Allah. Tell me, does ‘profit’ figure in your definition of murder? Like how PP ‘profits’ from their sanctioned murders? People have killed to become rich absent any malice, no? Take my advice, dispense with the ‘definition’ creations. You both suck at it. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1056641529 Ilish Fox

    The author of this article wrote this in a deficit of journalistic integrity and professionalism. The article is plumped with biased, ethos driven adjectives to conjure an environment of condemnation and judgment rather than evaluating the facts. The facts are that the author attacked and highlighted what could be deemed as “crude” comments on the basis that this was an accurate representation of Planned Parenthood (PP). At a closer scrutiny, such comments were written NOT by PP representatives but by an indiscriminate handful of facebook subscribers. Any journalist would know what this could not ever be legitimately used as a form of presentation other than of the quality of some facebook subscribers personal integrity and morals. Nothing more. In addition, sculpting comments in a pre- or post-viewing narrative to insight a moral degradation of the commenting is also below a journalist. I cite the mention of the attack on cancer patients as my evidence of this. 

    I am pro-life and I find this article to not at all be credible. In order for our movement to be viewed as credible and reasonable, we need to approach such topics with a demeanor of composure and integrity. I voiced this this comment on the article posting of this on the author’s pro-life facebook page and she deleted my comment and blocked me from commenting on any of her posts, henceforth. Does this resemble integrity and honesty? 

    P.S. To not mark out the commenter’s names in an article like this is an outrageous breach of their personal safety. These people now may become targets of violence and harassment. Any journalist or even amateur reporter knows this was an ethical breach of conduct. I think that these commenters are legally entitled to and should sue you for this conduct. 

  • http://profiles.google.com/kinialohaguy Kini AlohaGuy

    “You have no right to be alive.”
    That’s hate.  Pure Hate!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001567280734 Greg Saint

    FANTASTIC ARTICLE!! Great!! 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001567280734 Greg Saint

    hmm….reading through the comments, I wonder how many read the article, because I’m seeing the same content. 

  • Katestone1

    Hey. I stumbled upon this and boy, I am happy I did. I just want to point out that these same facebook trolls have harassed several people for no reason. Some of them are not even apart of the abortion debate. They are bordering illegal activity with some of the stuff they have gotten away with. One even filed a fake charge against me (Orange Soda and Kathi Korteling) with the police because of a comment I wrote on facebook that was in no way threatening or violent. 

    • musiciangirl591

       yeah, the PP page is a scary place, i got told that i hate my gender, that i’m sexually frustrated, i’m too young to have opinions, and that i was stupid, and many other things…. what was some of the illegal activity they were doing? i’m just wondering

      • Katestone1

        Well, I just posted it above. They have been sending me death threats in my PM as of late and way back in February they called the local police on me and filed a fake charge. It was extremely stressful on my family. Check out the comment I just shared. 

        • musiciangirl591

           sorry, i didn’t see the comments you made on the article until after i wrote on this one, again PP page is kinda scary, i would strongly suggest that you don’t go on there anymore, and orange soda is a frigging creep who has nothing better to do than to verbally abuse someone with different opinions than him

  • Katestone1

    Hey everyone! Update. Just got this personal message from our very own Orange Soda on my facebook. Nice. Huh?

    Orange SodaWhy don’t you just do us, your parents, and the whole world a big favor, and kill yourself?Damn gurl, you still haven’t been checked into the nut house yet? I thought for sure you’d be on Thorazine by now.I’m sure your parents would be better off without you. You should probably slit your wrists. It would be a cheap way of letting go

    • Katestone1

      Here is another PM I received from Orange Soda and the rest of the Planned Parenthood gang:

      Orange Sodadid you just out of the mental hospital and stop your meds ?? you f@#$%@ b&%#$Lol! You’re very sad. I know you have a fetish for young children, though. Go ahead and sue me so you can buy some kiddie porn, s@#&#.

      • Katestone1

        Orange Soda

        You’re not a woman, you’re just a two bit w@#$%. Now go f#$% yourself.hahaha there is way more than 3 of us

        • Katestone1

          Sorry. The above is a personal message I received from Orange Soda on facebook. I am going to post more just to show exactly what these people do. Now let me make this clear. I was never involved in the abortion debate. These people started harassing me because they decided I was “anti-Choice.”   Below are more messages I have received from Orange Soda, who is a major contributor and who is suspect is “Tobias” from Planned Parenthood, but I have no proof.

          • Katestone1

            Orange Soda

            You need to get hit in the face with a brick. Maybe then you won’t be such a pathetic w#$%
            .

          • Katestone1

            And this one, ladies and gentleman, is one of my favorites. So pro-woman…..

            Orange SodaI sure hope you never push a kid out of your maggot filled c#$^. I hope you have sense enough to shove a butcher knife up there if you ever get pregnant

          • Katestone1

            Orange Soda

            No need to bring Planned Parenthood into a do-it-yourself abortion. A good swift kick in your gut would help, too.

          • Katestone1

            Oh, and this one was a violent threat after I reported their comments. You see, I can’t block them since they are a “page.”

            Orange SodaKeep taking those screenshots, stupid. Keep “reporting.” Have someone kick you in the head while you’re at it.

          • Katestone1

            Now, this is a response I got after I threatened to report them to the police:

            Orange SodaGo to the police. Maybe if you lick their #$%hole they’ll take you seriously

  • Katestone1

    Here are more Personal Messages I received from Orange Soda on facebook. I have edited it for language:

    Orange Sodaf#% off ,you ugly piece of s#*%lol none of the admins of this page are from Montana. Keep trying, mrs.thorazine.It doesn’t matter what you are. You’re still a piece of trash. Have you talked to your gynecologist lately?

    • Katestone1

      I want people to see exactly how vile these people are. This goes beyond the Pro-Life Pro-Choice debate. These are all SUPPORTERS of Planned Parenthood and this is the example of the harassment I have been experiencing from months. Here is another lovely message I received. Again. I have edited it for it vile language:

      Katarzyna KamienskiScreenshot for credible threat of violence. Again. Thank you Orange. Keep them coming. Maybe you can hide in the mountains of Montana like all the other losers you hang with.about an hour ago
      Orange SodaYou do that, Polish b@#$. You call the Polish police, and I’m sure they’ll go and arrest Orange Soda real quick. Now take my suggestion, c%^&.

  • Anadrs23

    I fail to see what Google has to do with this article?

  • Donaldo

    “Denying a fact over and over doesn’t make it any less of one. It just makes the deniers look like dense, ignorant fools.”
    Anyone else find the irony of this statement – posted on a site where people routinely deny scientific facts – to be hilarious?
    :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1582867361 Corinne Rider

    On abortion; Parenthood is and should remain a personal choice. Is it right to send women back to the back alleys and rusty coat hangers? I thought we had evolved beyond this a long time ago.
    I guess desperation means gathering the religious votes regardless that it is impinging upon women’s personal rights. When people are raped or to poor to feed or clothe children or selling their kidneys to do so (as is done in the world) we need family planning here and around the world. With family planning, don’t you see, there would not be the division regarding the abortion issue. There would be no issue and no people killing abortion clinic workers in the name of life. So we need to end the abortion issue and our needless squabbling with family planning. Thank you.

  • libertarian_atheist

    Jennie : This is a toughie. I am a rationalist. I am a pro-life, anti-religion atheist. I have been on both sides of the abortion issue for my whole life. I was pro-life being raised in a semi-conservative Christian household. I saw abortion as an evil satanic practice of human sacrifice. I saw so many pictures and stories that it overwhelmed me. However, after leaving religion, I naturally went to the left side of the issue for a bit. I became pro-choice and began to examine abortion through the eyes of “civil rights” viewing it as a legitimate medical procedure. I saw the hypocrisy of politicians claiming to be “pro-life” and then supporting wars that have killed hundreds of thousands of people. I think the best way to explain this is too many irrational people on both sides of the abortion argument have hijacked a rational discourse about it. They are either crazy religious nuts or they are ultra liberal idiots who don’t actually care about “choice” when it comes to every other part of our lives (what we can eat, what we can drink, what we can spend our money on, etc).

    If the pro-life movement stopped the religious nonsense and began using valid secular arguments that are backed by science (you know and stop being creationist) to have credibility, you might see a double take on abortion by pro-choice people who often are irreligious. The rejection of evolution by many pro-life people is another reason the pro-choice side rejects their arguments. By using the bible or “personal” stories, they are just isolating themselves.

    The pro-life movement also needs to stop fighting birth control, gay adoption and condoms. Solutions to abortion are often what pro-life people don’t want because it flies in the face of their other beliefs (such as anti-fornication, anti-homosexual, etc). As long as they ostrasize other Americans who are willing to adopt kids or who want to use birth control to prevent pregnancy, abortion will never be reduced or stopped.

    As a pro-choice atheist, who believed in rational thinking, I thought about all the survivors of abortion and what would a pro-choice person say to a person who survived it? “You shouldn’t be alive”? Cruelty can be found as the result of irrational people who are too cynical to even look at the evidence in front of them. Pro-life people can be just as cruel to women who have had abortions or who need to have one because of an actual medical situation (there is a great Youtube video of a pro-life mocker of a woman who is already shattered).

    I think evidence is regardless of political view points, which is why if a person refuses to examine actual evidence or rational arguments, they are no better than the “irrational” people they attack on the other side of the issue. I do not respect them on either side if they do that.

  • Ben

    ” Does it really matter why Melissa was aborted? Clearly, she was viable – how in the world is aborting a viable baby justified, even in the case of a medical emergency? If a pregnancy is life-threatening and must end, how is going in and intentionally killing the baby preferable to or even justified over trying to save the baby, too?”

    Apart from my personal stand point on abortion I always find this line of reasoning perplexing. It represents an egregious over simplification of what is a very complex issue. Can there really be a one size fits all stand point, regardless of which side of the debate you may sit? How is it that the baby’s life is often seen as more valuable in these discussions than that of the mother in a medical situation where both are at risk? Doctors have to make very difficult decisions in these circumstances to determine the likely survival chances of both mother and child before deciding upon a course of action. Clearly saving both mother and child is the best outcome, however is many case this is unfortunately not the case.

    Again to oppose abortion in every situation would seem to lend itself to not considering all possibilities Is it ethical to abort a pregnancy where there is a 100% chance of the mother dying? What if the woman had other children who would be left without a mother to raise them if she were to die? What of the psychological impact upon a child whose mother dies delivering them, or the relationship that child may have with a grieving father who has lost their partner? The list of “what ifs” is endless, and worthy of thought before trying to adopt a singular moral stand point to apply to all cases.

    It is also very heartless to condemn the poor women who have had to make this horrendous choice, to roll the dice as it were with the odds of their own life versus that of their child. I think we can all agree no one would ever want to have to have to make such a choice, the fear and emotional pain either option represents bears some thought, before judging those who been through that ordeal.

    I am sorry this is such a long comment, however important, complex issues, such as this, deserve more than single line, sound bite discussions.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=622969119 Michele Hriscko Cook

     Typical pro abort, cannot fight with facts, so resort to name calling. Why don’t you explain why you are so pro abort, or just stop trolling pro life boards!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001171348081 Alyssa Lauer

    I love how you call us anti-choice! Ha, just trying to distract from the fact that if we’re pro-life, then you’re ANTI-life! And come on, I’m sure your anti-life sites try to quiet those that don’t agree. Go troll on youtube or something, I’m sick of your crap in the comments.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=622969119 Michele Hriscko Cook

     Do you know what “fetus” means, it means “human offspring”, ergo a baby. Pro aborts use the term to dehumanize the child, but no where is it defined as not a child or not human, except in the mind of pro aborts to justify it’s murder.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001171348081 Alyssa Lauer

    That’s ridiculous, what about the many viable babies that have been killed by abortion when they could have been delivered, adopted, and lived a long and happy life? The goal of abortion is to kill the baby, not remove it.

  • Elizabethschuch

    I think when you say marly you are trying to say “merely”. Marly means earth/clay soil.   What video did you watch? The video I watched provided facts like her birth weight, how old she was in when she was aborted (5 months), had testimony from her adoptive mother, and described the type of abortion her mom selected. Did you have any evidence to discredit it? No, you could have googled it to find out if it was a scam or to find out if it was true (birth records, other news coverage).  You discredited her story for no reason besides that you wanted to. It doesn’t when most abortions happen. An abortion can take place at any time; unless you researched into laws the year she was born (which I highly doubt).   Saying most abortions happen on Saturdays doesn’t mean they don’t happen any other day and that’s not a logical reason to not believe her story.   Learn to research and reason.  It relevant because the fetus they are aborting is human and she brings a voice and face (that isn’t covered in blood) as a victim of abortion.  How do you not see the relevance? 

  • Figaro

    Of course the story is to sway you to her side of thinking. That’s true of everystory ever written ….

    and it is not irrelevant just because you say so. hearing it from the mouth of a victim is very relevant. but, hey, is pro-lifers, men and someone who’s mother tried to have her killed before she was born are not entitled to an opinion …

    Please explain why her story and life are irrelevant?

  • Behrens

    If you don’t believe Melissa Ohden’s story, maybe you should contact her so that she can provide you with “medical proof” of her abortion.  She is an incredible woman with a heart wrenching story to tell.  She speaks for those who can’t speak for themselves.  She is filled with compassion, love, understanding and faith.   While sharing her story with the world she is also able to be a wonderful wife, mother and missionary for God.  What have you accomplished lately?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-M-Williams/1021964754 Michelle M. Williams

     I said “Everyone I know”, not “everyone in existence”. Please read agian. Thank you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003647522212 Dawn Zatara

     Yes, actually. It would be like a “peer doctor” who didn’t have a medical degree.

  • TrueGod

    Can you personally guarantee it with your life that it will live ”a long and happy life”?

  • TrueGod

    You creatures are anything but “pro-life”. You are pro-fetus and anti-choice, not pro-life. Life starts at conception and ends at birth for people like you.

  • DuoMatrix

     Could your parents guarantee that you will live “a long and happy life”? Could anyone guarantee it? No. There is no guarantees in life. But that does not mean they should not be given the same chances that you or I have had.

  • Elizabethschuch

     Can abortion advocates guarantee that the mom will have a better life, or that the child would have had a bad one if left alive?  The coin flips both ways. 

  • Kirstenfinger

    Could you guarantee that he or she wouldn’t? You are reducing the death of an infant and the long term grief of a mother to a coin toss? Really??

  • Kirstenfinger

    Actually, I would argue that prolifers are pro-woman and pro-choice. If you call yourself pro-choice, but do nothing to support alternatives choices for women (as prolifers do), then you are not pro-choice at all, you are pro-abortion.

    The latest research had shown that women are 81% more likely to suffer from mental health problems, up to and including suicide, if they have an abortion when faced with unplanned pregnancy versus women who go on to give birth when faced with unplanned pregnant (Coleman P. 2011. British journal of psychiatry). Add to that, 70% of all women had an abortion because they felt they had NO CHOICE. That is NOT providing choice to them, that is dis empowering them to choose motherhood. 96% of abortions are done for psychosocial reasons, not medical reasons. Reasons such as career, study, boyfriend, lifestyle, money. All reasons where women can receive support to be able to choose to have her baby, and all reasons where we fail to help as a society. If you rally consider yourself pro-CHOICE then get out there and help offer options.

    And before I’m challenged, yes I can provide references for ALL of my statistics.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001171348081 Alyssa Lauer

    Creature? Oh, so now I’m not human, either? Whatever, at least I’m not pro-dead babies.

  • Hovish13

    That’s why we donate our time, money, and energy to help pregnant women get *not only* prenatal care, but also diapers, clothes, toys, etc etc so that she can care for her child -after- its born. Uh huh. What has the pro-choice community done for born infants?

  • http://twitter.com/lisajulia65 Lisa Julia

     Funny, the more they post, the more they continue to show that they are only capable of name calling. 

  • guvhog

    This is totally FALSE. There are many organizations across this nation run by Pro-Lifers that help women who prefer to give birth and them help them get the baby adopted should they not want him or her. There are thousands and thousands of couple and singles across this great country waiting to adopt newborn babies but thanks to Planned Parenthood there aren’t near enough babies.

  • http://twitter.com/MarauderTheSN Marauder

    You were citing your personal experience to demonstrate what you think is some kind of common trend, and it doesn’t work.

  • http://twitter.com/MarauderTheSN Marauder

    Well, I give you credit for consistency, anyway.

  • Molyl

    I’m sorry you’re so pitifully stupid and don’t realize your own gender has rights.

  • Vitty

    Did you know ‘placenta’ means cake? I guess we should start serving it as a desert with ice cream. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001171348081 Alyssa Lauer

    Oye, where did all these trolls get this link from? I’m pro-life, pro-woman (in fact I am a woman, and many pro-lifers are, so that stupid pro-life=men issue is moot), and I care about EVERY life. How dare you people try to judge me and say that I only care about fetuses? I care about all human beings, it’s just that fetuses are the only humans that it is legal to murder.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DDYNWPRBKLQNXFFXJR3BD52CZE DG

     Do unborn females have rights?

  • Kirstenfinger

     Name calling Molyl?  That is the best you can come up with?  I suppose that’s all I should expect as it is near impossible to argue with logic, such as I provided….

    Where are the rights of the children in all of this?  Do you not think that you had a right to be born?  How about your children?

  • Musiciangirl591

     i’m a pro life feminist, my gender has rights (voting, driving, etc.), but abortion is not a right, its a killing of the unborn and is horrible and barbaric

  • MoonChild02

    Yes, we have rights, but we also have responsibilities, including taking responsibility for our actions. Sex causes procreation. If a baby is formed, it is a couple’s responsibility to care for that child, not throw her/him under the bus.

    Women deserve better than abortion.
    http://www.feministsforlife.org/

  • freeforever666

    It’s impossible to reason with low intelligent life forms like yourself who can’t understand something as simple as this: IF YOU ARE NOT BORN, YOU CANNOT BE MURDERED!
    You don’t want an abortion, don’t get one, but don’t force your anti-BORN people pro-embryo beliefs on others.

  • http://twitter.com/lisajulia65 Lisa Julia

     There hasn’t been one post where they haven’t replied as if they were 5 years old.  They are not interested in respectful dialog; only name-calling.

  • Kirstenfinger

     Did you even READ the information I provided?  63,000 abortions every year (!) are done beccause women feel they have NO other choice!  Why wouldn’t anyone with any sort of a moral compass want to stand up and provide women with the support they need to feel that they can actually CHOOSE!  Including choosing to continue their pregnancy!  You are not pro-choice, you are pro-abortion through and through if you don’t want to help women actually have options.

  • guvhog

    Oh really??? Then why, if a man kills an expectant mother and her fetus which she wants to keep, is that man charged with 2 counts of murder and not 1???

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001171348081 Alyssa Lauer

    When did I ever say I was anti-born people? Seriously, if you don’t like rape, don’t rape someone. See how ridiculous it sounds?

  • http://twitter.com/lisajulia65 Lisa Julia

     No, your post wasn’t read by any of them because someone let the children on the computer.  Not one of them has been able to  produce anything but vile comments with name-calling and childish insults.  It’s no use feeding them because they are not interested in educating themselves.  Sad.

  • guvhog

    All unborns should but only the ones whos mothers do not want abortions actually have rights.

  • Jdjdjeeeeerrrryyy

    Be careful you don’t make sweeping generalizations my dear…

  • Musiciangirl591

     that’s disgusting…

  • MoonChild02

    You would be surprised at the many things they do with placenta. Yes, many women do cook and eat it, because it’s full of vitamins. It’s called placentophagy.
    http://pregnancy.about.com/cs/placentas/a/placenta.htm

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/USLUWBVDAZ66RV3EIZZXRIDJYI Heather White

    Hell even cats, dogs and other animals eat their placenta after giving birth to replenish their health and heal faster.

  • Musiciangirl591

     don’t belittle her

  • 12angry_men

    Lisa belittled people in her comment. Not very consistent now are we? No? Gasp! And please refrain from low comment posting. Especially when there are already 200 comments on this article. 

  • Musiciangirl591

     ok… don’t tell me what to do, i’ll do low comment posting if i want…