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Pro-abortion forces at Fordham University take advantage of Ann Coulter controversy

It seems that the Ann Coulter controversy at Fordham University continues to affect – if not haunt – the Catholic, Jesuit university. A few of weeks ago, just one week after it was announced that Ann Coulter was invited and then that invitation was rescinded, Peter Singer was given a spot to speak on a panel that was held at and sponsored by the university.

I’ll admit that I was slightly disheartened at first to read that Campus Notes, the Cardinal Newman Society (CNS) blog, was covering this controversy at Fordham. What it entails is a group of faculty at Fordham University Law School arguing that since Father McShane did not cancel the Ann Coulter event, the university should provide funding for pro-abortion groups and The Vagina Monologues. Tracy Higgins, professor at the law school, and Bridgette Dunlap, who is known for her involvement in reproductive rights groups and is a human rights fellow at the Leitner Center for International Law and Justice, wrote an open letter to Father McShane, which is included in the linked article. 

It is true that Father McShane did express “disgust” in the College Republicans for inviting Ann Coulter to campus, but he did not cancel the event. The decision to rescind the invitation was made by the College Republicans Executive Board. It was perhaps questionable to invite Ann Coulter, and the College Republicans did realize this. I am not trying to rehash the Ann Coulter controversy, which has been explained sufficiently enough in the article regarding Peter Singer, but it is important to put the matter into context, in order to explain why the faculty group’s logic is so faulty.

Again, perhaps it was questionable that Ann Coulter was invited. It is my opinion, however, as a supporter of the event, that Ann Coulter has the ability to formulate what she would say to be suitable for an academic setting. She can be funny and insightful while still being appropriate and respectful.

On the other hand, it is not questionable in the slightest as to whether or not The Vagina Monologues should receive university funding. The Observer, a Lincoln Center student publication, describes the play as “a controversial event by Fordham undergraduates each year to raise awareness of violence against women.” Such a description almost paints those who oppose such “a controversial event” as against events which “raise awareness of violence against women.” But being against such an offensive play is hardly all about that. While the play has different versions, one version includes lesbian pedophilia and molestation. And there is more offensiveness where that came from, considering playwright Eve Ensler’s views on abortion and the Republican Party.

The open letter to Father McShane mentions and bemoans the fact that “… Fordham’s anti-abortion club receives funding while pro-choice advocacy is censored.”

Now, this “anti-abortion club” at Fordham is a highly respected and esteemed group on campus named Respect for Life (RFL). It was awarded Club of the Year in 2010 by United Student Government (USG). The club also deals with issues such as the death penalty, euthanasia, suicide prevention, and sex-trafficking. As I explained to a frustrated RFL member on Facebook, it says a lot about the respect (or lack thereof) abortion advocates have for the other side when they call the pro-life side “anti-abortion” while cloaking themselves in such glorious terms as “pro-choice advocacy.”

We do not have a pro-choice group on campus, but we do have a Progressive Students for Justice club, which includes Women’s Empowerment. In 2010 and 2011, Women’s Empowerment held a counter-event to our Respect for Life week, known as “Complicate the Issue,” which included pro-abortion information. The satirical and often offensive publication group The Paper has also oftentimes mocked the Respect for Life club, as well as other clubs and students they do not agree with, and in so doing shows its support for the pro-choice movement.

Apparently this is not enough for Higgins and Dunlap. But it should be a no-brainer, though, as to why “pro-choice advocacy is censored” on campus. Fordham University, though not without its controversies and issues, is still a Catholic and Jesuit university, which has a duty to uphold Catholic and Jesuit teaching. So it is not so much about censoring or leaving out anybody as it is about upholding such teaching. This includes a pro-life view. Fordham accepts students and hires faculty of different viewpoints, as evidenced by the hiring of Higgins and Dunlap. That being said, though, such faculty members surely have the opportunities and credentials to apply to a university more in line with their viewpoints. In fact, one wonders if such faculty, like Higgins and Dunlap, are at Fordham in part to merely cause trouble and usurp Catholic and Jesuit viewpoints.

According to The Observer in quoting Dunlap:

“I think that’s pretty problematic and not reflective of the kind of place Fordham is,” Dunlap said of Fordham’s discrimination between forms of student involvement.” Fordham is a place where we have scholarship and debate and respectful discussion of different ideas. So, we shouldn’t be silencing the legitimate conversations that we ought to be having.”

Dunlap may think this way about Fordham, but she is wrong. To reiterate, Fordham is still a Jesuit and Catholic university, where pro-life views are held in high regard and are upheld. I have had my issues with Fordham in the past, but I do have faith and hope in Father McShane and the administration in this instance. I pray that Fordham will not let me down here with this and will not cave in to funding The Vagina Monologues (which they are gracious enough to even permit) or “pro-choice advocacy” groups.

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  • CS

    Everyone should read the actual letter. The letter does not demand funding for the Vagina Monologues or anything else. It asks the President what the policy on censorship and funding is. Everyone should be able to agree that there should be clarity on this.

    Also, to suggest that theologians engaging with Singer and law professors who care about speech who have dedicated their careers to a Catholic institution should go elsewhere because you have the one authoritative interpretation of what Catholic teaching is and how it should be reflected on campus is beyond arrogant and an affront to the tradition of Catholic education and scholarship.

    • Steve Farrell

      “you have the one authoritative interpretation of what Catholic teaching is”

      That happens a lot around here. A recent article claimed that you have to be pro-life to be Christian, even though many Christian denominations are avowedly pro-choice.

      • Rebecca Downs

        There is a recent article on that, as well as an article I wrote back in May. If you are pro-choice, you’re not living as a proper Christian should… it may sound harsh, but it is the truth and is how to live according to Jesus.

        • CS

          I see you are not only a theologian specializing in all Christian denominations, but also the only theologian whose view matters.

          • Rebecca Downs

            I never claimed to be a theologian. I don’t believe anyone else on this site who obviously isn’t a theologian claimed to either. But for you to call yourself a faithful Christian and be pro-choice, is so nonsensical that even an informed lay person, like myself, and Kristan in her own post, can offer relevant information and viewpoints. Even agnostics, atheists and others who are for secular purposes understand the rationality behind pro-life. But for a religiously faithful person to disregard this is to be severely misguided. And, at least in my post, I backed my information up from religious websites.

          • CS

            So all the theologians who believe the force of the law should not be used to compel a women to carry a pregnancy to term against her will can “go to hell,” if you will?

          • Rebecca Downs

            Nobody ever said that either! And all this “against her will” type of thing. For pregnancies that are as a result of consensual sex, it is about taking responsibility for your actions. And not killing someone for the sake of convenience is pretty important part of taking personal responsibility!

          • irishsmile

            Silly.

        • http://twitter.com/Astraspider Astraspider

          Fordham obviously *didn’t* teach you humility.

          • Rebecca Downs

            I consider myself a very humble person, in many areas, and in need of improvement of others. I see it more coming down to how self-conscious I am as a person. And it was certainly was not something that Fordham was going to teach me.

          • GoRams

            It doesn’t seem very humble to tell us who does and doesn’t belong at Fordham. Fordham is an inclusive place where ideas can be debated and discussed. I think you may be the one outside the mainstream, but no one should ever be mean or presumptuous enough to say you don’t belong here.

          • Rebecca Downs

            I never said who belongs or doesn’t belong at Fordham. I have no problem with people of other and no faith being admitted. When I attended Fordham, my best friend was an atheist. That being said though, if you attend or teach at Fordham, you are doing so with the understanding that you are attending a private, Jesuit/Catholic school. If you want a place where anything goes, I say you may be better off at a secular university… I never said a certain person doesn’t belong, at least not based on religion. You can’t honestly be all that surprised that abortion advocacy groups are not given funding though. I mean, really…

          • irishsmile

            I agree Rebecca. It is not a question of opinions regarding who belongs at Fordham. The simple question is whether Fordham should be allowed to retainn it’s Catholic designation.

          • http://www.facebook.com/john.platten.7 John Platten

            Its very simple…The vatican really needs to clean house over there… There is no “liberal and conservative church”, there is only those who support and conform to doctrine of the RCC and those who support heterodoxy and expound antidoctrine… THIS IS A CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY… IF THE STUDENTS WANT TO DO WHAT THEY WANT AND ” MAKE THEIR OWN JESUS ” They should go to a PROTEST-ant college…. Any faculity that’s supports antidoctrine should be removed from campus…. Period… When Jesuits act like liberalism is their religion, they betray the teachings… but let’s get really honest St. Ingatius would not even be allowed in the Jesuit order today… He would be consider a Ingorant close minded homophobic anti woman devolved hater….. I think this makes Jesus cry..

          • Julia

            Christian humility means seeing yourself in relation to God. It doesn’t mean not taking a stand on an issue and knowing firmly enough that you are right to tell other people the truth, as long as you don’t do it for your own glory.

          • irishsmile

            Ad hominem attack. Let’s stick with the issue and leave personalities out of this.

      • irishsmile

        It is one’s choice as an American to be pro-choice… but not Catholic and be pro-choice. The door swings both ways on the Catholic Church. If one doesn’t agree with it’s doctrines, one may leave. The Catholic Curch is not “other Christian denominations”.

      • http://www.facebook.com/john.platten.7 John Platten

        jesus wouldn’t have an abortion… he could have called angels down to save him and abort the whole sequence… Noooooo, He took the cross..

    • Julia

      Catholic teaching is very clear on abortion :
      “Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person – among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to live….Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as a means or an end, is gravely contrary to the moral law.” (CCC 2270-2271)
      In order to be a Catholic you must believe the Catholic Church’s teachings; if you don’t , you are not a Catholic, even if you say you are.
      It is impossible to be a real Catholic, and believe abortion is OK.
      Before you jump on me, understand that I realize that the Catechism of the Catholic Church will not influence someone who is not Catholic. (My opposition to abortion is also based on science and reason.)

  • Julia

    “The open letter to Father McShane mentions and bemoans the fact that “… Fordham’s anti-abortion club receives funding while pro-choice advocacy is censored.””
    As it is a Catholic university, it SHOULD be biased, and fund and support clubs whose values are based on Catholic teaching, and not fund and support clubs whose values are opposed Catholic teaching.

    • CS

      The question is isn’t the Catholic Church’s teaching on abortion. The question is whether either Catholic doctrine or a particular Catholic-affiliated institution’s mission or policies require censorship of dissenting viewpoints.

      The premiere Catholic universities in this country do not have a tradition of saying no one is allowed to voice disagreement with the Catholic hierarchy and that there are no open questions in Catholicism or evolutions of doctrine. Indeed, such an approach would negate the purpose of having a theology department.

      • Julia

        Sometimes the Catholic Church grows to understand our doctrines better, but the Church never changes a doctrine or creates a new one. ( defining a doctrine does not equal creating a new one – the doctrine has been believed from the beginning.)

        A Catholic institution should never directly support or encourage or fund ideas so directly opposed to Catholic teachings.

        From the post – “Fordham University, though not without its controversies and issues, is still a Catholic and Jesuit university, which has a duty to uphold Catholic and Jesuit teaching. So it is not so much about censoring or leaving out anybody as it is about upholding such teaching. This includes a pro-life view.” Exactly.

        “The question is whether either Catholic doctrine or a particular Catholic-affiliated institution’s mission or policies require censorship of dissenting viewpoints”
        What is kind of ironic was that the Ann Coulters pro-life viewpoint was the one being basically censored (president’s “disgust” and strong disapproval) not the pro-abortion, pro-infanticide Singer, whose views are contrary to the Catholic teaching which a Catholic university should be teaching is right.

        • CS

          Disgust and strong disapproval are not censorship or even “basically censorship.” Father McShane said she could come and be paid Fordham money.

          As to your assertions about unchanging Catholic doctrine, have you never heard of Galileo?

          You may find this article informative http://ncronline.org/blogs/bulletins-human-side/vaticans-doctrinal-congregation-clears-bourgeois-condemning-him

          • Julia

            Whether the sun goes around the earth or earth goes around the sun isn’t a Catholic doctrine.

            Where does it say Ann Coulter was going to be paid by the university to come?

            “Disgust and strong disapproval are not censorship or even “basically censorship.”"
            It’s closer to censorship than not just not funding a particular club, which, if I understood you correctly, was what you were saying was censorship.

          • CSS

            I see you did not read the linked Fordham article or the letter in question. Fr. McShane was going to allow Coulter to be paid $10,000. And the letter does not demand funding for the Vagina Monologues, it asks for the policy and notes an incident where professors were actually censored. You probably misunderstand the Fordham situation because of the misrepresentations in Ms. Downey’s post, so it is best to go to the sources.

          • CSS

            Apologies, I meant Ms. Downs’ post

        • Steve Farrell

          ‘the Church never changes a doctrine or creates a new one”
          That must be why they still say Mass in Latin.

          • Julia

            That is not a doctrine! Don’t talk about stuff you don’t have a clue about.

          • irishsmile

            Whether the Mass is said in the vernacular or in Latin is not a doctrine. I recommend the Catechism of the Catholic Church for a further explanation if one is interested.

  • http://twitter.com/Astraspider Astraspider

    When I read Father McShane’s letter to the Fordham Republicans, I was compelled to jot down one of his lines explaining why the Coulter visit wasn’t being explicitly prohibited. He said “the answer to bad speech is more speech.”

    That’s an admirable tenet. I don’t know why Fordham pro-lifers can’t adopt that same credo when faced with speech they deem “bad”.

    • Rebecca Downs

      Because it is a Catholic, Jesuit university. It is a private institution. The administration should not be funding something so inherently against the faith as a pro-choice club. There are plenty of secular universities where they have no problem with such beliefs, views, clubs, activities, etc.

      • http://twitter.com/Astraspider Astraspider

        Money is speech, as conservatives have been wont to say, lately. Given that Fordham’s endowment is approaching half a billion dollars, I imagine that the costs of subsidizing a small policy-minded club or a theatrical production wouldn’t really be that great, especially if they truly want to foster open debate. In contrast, your “love it or leave it” posture certainly won’t lead to much dialogue.

      • GoRams

        You are incorrect. Fordham is a university “in the Jesuit tradition” that welcomes people of many faiths and views. If what you were proposing were true Fordham would lose all its funding from New York State because the NY constitution prohibits taypayer funding of educational institutions controlled by religious denominations.

        • sarah

          Jesuits are an order of Catholic priests. Jesuit tradition is Catholic tradition.

          Either they should cut any reference to being “Jesuit” or “Catholic”, or they should be Catholic/Jesuit in more than just name, even if they will lose state funding.

          • GoRams

            Jesuits have a history of dissent from the Vatican. Also Fordham & other Catholic institutions would have gone bankrupt in the 70s without public funding. Being more inclusive allowed Catholic scholarship to continue and these schools to grow.

          • Sarah

            yeah, they’ve grown by sacrificing their morals for money. The problem is not allowing non-Catholics to attend (being inclusive) but by promoting anti-Catholic teachings and not promoting and upholding Catholic teaching.
            As I said, if they don’t want to be Catholic, fine. But then don’t say you are Catholic or Jesuit, or in “Jesuit tradition”.

            “Jesuits have a history of dissent from the Vatican”
            In the last 40 years, yes. But definitely not for the 400 years before that .Actually, the Jesuits order was founded for specific purpose of serving the Pope particualry, even more so than every other Catholic religious order.

          • Sarah

            Note – I’m not refering particualiry to Fordham. I am refering to the majority of “Catholic” universities in this country.

          • http://www.facebook.com/john.platten.7 John Platten

            Well Said, you have more grace than I

          • irishsmile

            … and historically when the Jesuits got too big for their britches, they were surpressed by the Vatican . What goes around… comes around.

        • http://www.facebook.com/john.platten.7 John Platten

          God forbid they lose the money, that’s much more important than the souls and spiritual health of the student body….

          • GoRams

            Fordham wouldn’t have a student body without the state money because they would have gone bankrupt decades ago. And Catholic institutions were never the orthodox places where we sit around and agree with each other you think they were in the good old days anyway.

          • http://www.facebook.com/john.platten.7 John Platten

            If the catholic universities cannot afford to exist without contracting with heterodoxy, they shouldn’t exist… They should be reorganized and consolidated. Orthodoxy is the RCC. Everything that lays outside of the umbrella of Mother Church and its doctrine is not of Mother Church…. If the cost of Catholic higher education is teaching and expounding anti doctrine, then it is a cost to great. We are sending mixed messages with this “tolerance”, to catholics at large. There is no such thing as a cafeteria catholic, there never was.. Only those who choose to turn their cheeks or their backs to the Lord of Hosts.

          • GoRams

            Cool. How bout you people hating on us institutions “in the Jesuit tradition” lay off and go start your own orthodox conservative Catholic schools without taxpayer funding (this can and has been done!) and see how it goes attracting faculty and students?

          • http://www.facebook.com/john.platten.7 John Platten

            In the “jesuit tradition”, means nothing unless it exists within the “Catholic tradition”, as it arose dependently from it. Read some Thomas Aquinas for G-d’s sake. Your trying to put the derivative above the primary agent. And again there are no such thing as “conservative or liberal” schools that are Catholic. Just as much as there is no such thing as the conservative or liberal church. There is only the RCC and its doctrine, What are they teaching over there? (No wonder the CDF wants to do a crackdown) You see the Church is the universal Jerusalem, The extension of Christ, in body and form, manifest on this temporal plane. The body of Christ can and may never be divided apon itself. Just as an extension of Christ (it’s most secondary derivative) in structure and in form, (As the body of Christ) may never be divided as well.

  • american freedom

    pro-life-fascists are known to censor anyone with an logical point, made with science, law, and historical evidence, strong enough to defeat pro-reproductive slavery views.

    like these:

    ‘HUMAN FETUS IS NOT A BABY (THE HUMAN DEVELOPMENT CHART), but a parasite because of the biological relationship that’s based on the behavior of one organism (fetus) & how it relates to the woman’s body:
    As a zygote, it invaded the woman’s uterus using its TROPHOBLAST cells, hijacked her immune system by using NEUROKININ B, HCG and ‘INDOLEAMINE 2, 3-DIOXYGENASE’ – so her body doesn’t kill it, continue stealing her nutrients to survive & causing her harm or potential death.

    galerouth blogspot com’

    and…

    ‘”When individuals of the same species parasitize individuals of the same species, they are referred to as intraspecific parasites”

    krohde wordpress com/article/parasitism-an-introduction

    “an animal or plant that lives in or on another from which it obtains nourishment. The host does not benefit from the association and is often harmed by it”

    thefreedictionary com/parasite

    FETUS IS A PARASITE & WOMEN HAVE TO RIGHT ABORT THEM, THUS SAVING THE TAX PAYER MONEY.

    google: abortion freakonomics’

    and….

    ‘NO HUMAN ( that means the FETUS, too) has a right to life or any due process rights by the 14th amendment to use another human’s body or body parts AGAINST their will, civil and constitutional rights: that’s why you are not forced to donate your kidney—the human fetus is no exception; this is supported by the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment AND 13th amendment, which makes reproductive slavery unconstitutional.

    galerouth blogspot com’

    and last one…

    ‘PROVE YOUR GOD IS EMPIRICALLY REAL, BECAUSE HISTORICAL EVIDENCE PROVES YOU WRONG..

    2nd Foundational Falsehood of Creationism
    v=ZFrkjEgUDZA

    3.3.3 Atheism: A History of God (Part 1)
    v=MlnnWbkMlbg

    YOUR BIBLE SUPPORTED ABORTION: v=Cq3U09DeKpg

    Abortions and Crime: Freakonomics Movie
    v=zk6gOeggViw

    How Not To Be Stupid – A Guide To Critical Thinking
    v=1OedkyxEqtA’

    THOSE VIDEOS RIGHT THERE CAN DEFEAT ANY PRO-LIFE-FASCIST WILL TO FORCE WOMEN INTO REPRODUCTIVE…IN HOURS, AT LEASE CREATED THE SEEDS TO THEIR UNDOING– IF THEIR WILL IS TOO STRONG.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UFWTMUPHCY3H6KDJ5ZTQE2OW54 j

    i object to the use of “pro-abortion” in your headline. i understand this is an opinion piece and i appreciate you putting ‘opinion’ at the top of the report. Many journalists do not even do that today.

    “Pro-choice” is the right term.

    • http://www.facebook.com/john.platten.7 John Platten

      I think pro-infantcide is much more accurate…. when is murder ever a choice? I also think the term “family planning” is absurd, as it would be more accurate to call it ” family ending”.

      • Steve Farrell

        You win the Online Antagonism Award for the week, John. Try to be a little less friendly next time, and use a few more self-righteous buzzwords so people don’t think you’re actually interested in dialogue.

        • http://www.facebook.com/john.platten.7 John Platten

          I’m sorry you are being so sensitive to my honesty Steve… If our bishops took a harder stance the LCWR would be in line already, elected officials wouldn’t be using the national media stage to call themselves catholic and support publically anti catholic issues and maybe we would even be winning this secular war on christianity….. Or maybe they should wait til there’s nothing left of Mother church… I’m not inflamatory, I’m blunt…

          • bartskibeat

            The successors to the apostles are called bishops. You stand in judgement of them. the right to terminate a pregnancy has been the law since 1973; approved by a Supreme Court of compassion, learning, wisdom & recognition of freedoms & diversity. Most people knowledgeable about the complexities of zygotic cellular division do not view the developing embryo as a human being but cells with the potential to become one. Until fairly recently, the process of pregnancy was one of the more dangerous undertakings a woman could be exposed to & many died in childbirth, leaving orphaned children who also often died of disease & malnutrition.

          • http://www.facebook.com/john.platten.7 John Platten

            Lmbo, the supreme court of compassion, where is the compassion for those who are killed in utero… that’s over the top… let’s be really above the board for once… abortion for any other reason than to save the life of the mother is for conveinence or prosperity…. no different than the pagans of old using human sacrifice for a good crop yeild. I studied human physical developement in college and it doesn’t change the fact that your zygote has a soul as according to the talmud the soul is place in the sperm moments before conception… destroy a zygote= reject a soul… the right to life is the only human right by which all other rights are afforded… Lastly, I don’t judge the bishops in the absolute sense that you propose… I just question whether the American bishops acualy

    • Rebecca Downs

      “Pro-choice” is the right term only in that it is “politically correct.” It sounds better and nicer and if you are trying to be civil rather than accurate, it is the right term to use. I do admit that there are the right times to be using it. Many journalists do not use it because many journalists are in favor of abortion themselves! If you object to the headline, you object to the truth. Abortion is the choice pro-choicers are advocating for. You are either for abortion and against life, or against abortion and for life. And while you may object, do you know how many times I have heard pro-choicers absolutely smear the pro-life name? A lot more than you hear “pro-abortion.” They call us anti-abortion and anti-abortion and don’t give one bit how cruel or objectionable or misrepresentative that is. No, you hear people complaining about the term “pro-abortion” a lot more even though it is much more accurate than “anti-choice.”

      • sarah

        Actually, I don’t have a problem with being called anti-abortion.
        “Pro-life” and “pro-choice” are what the people in those groups call themselves.
        “Pro-abortion” and “Anti-abortion [and usually anti-euthanasia, too]” are the more specific titles.
        And “anti-choice” is what pro-abortion people like to call us. (The equivalent title for pro-abortion people would be “pro-death”, though prolifers almost never use that term)

        • Rebecca Downs

          I’m glad you don’t have a problem, and I don’t mean that sarcastically in any way. It used to bother me somewhat, because the people who called me “anti-abortion” and “anti-choice” refused to call me for what I really was (“pro life”) and used the terms with such rude disdain. It is interesting and fitting to compare the term “pro-death,” which I do believe is an equivalent, and is not what I use, so I agree it is almost never used. But what bothers me about “anti-choice” is not that it hurt my feelings ever, but that it is not true. We’re simply against one choice, and that choice is abortion, because we are against murder of innocent unborn babies.

    • Julia

      Everyone knows the only choice they are talking about is whether a mother choice’s to abort (kill) or not abort her preborn child. They are certainly not pro-the choice of the child about whether the he/she wants live or die.

      If someone is pro-death penalty, does that mean that they think everyone or every criminal should recieve the death penalty? Of course not. It means that they want the death penalty to remain an option. Same thing with pro-abortion – does it mean they think every woman should get an abortion? No, but it means they want abortion to be an option.

  • http://www.facebook.com/byron.hennessey Byron Hennessey

    I’m a Fordham graduate. I think Father McShane’s actions were a disgrace, particularly in the Ann Coulter affair. So much for the free exchange of ideas. Time to vote with your wallets, folks. Stop donating to the university or, if you are a current student, don’t donate after you graduate. Don’t subsidize this kind of atmosphere…

    • Rebecca Downs

      Thanks for your comments, Byron! A lot of other notable Fordham alum, particularly who were College Republicans and College Republican e-board members, have expressed similar sentiments. So you’re certainly not alone.

      • http://www.facebook.com/john.platten.7 John Platten

        Byron I think you would be much more effective if you wrote a petition to the CDF. I can’t understand why more students don’t petition Rome for help in these matters.

  • newoxfordpatriot

    Typical Jesuit thinking; go with whatever is popular at that time. Maybe the Pope should kick the Jesuits out of the Catholic Church,

    • http://www.facebook.com/john.platten.7 John Platten

      I think they have done that already to themselves, its a wonder so many of them can take the eucharist in good faith.