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Sandra Fluke spews her blatant lies – again – at the DNC

Speaking before the Democratic National Convention last night, Sandra Fluke attempted to paint a picture for the delegates. She spoke of two different choices and two different futures – one a shining, rosy, perfect future with Barack Obama as president and the other a dim, dark, scary future with Mitt Romney in our nation’s highest position. Fluke exaggerated constantly and grossly misrepresented the positions of both Romney and Paul Ryan. But hey, when your goal is to paint a picture that women will fear, there’s no real point in sticking to the truth. Deception is much more interesting, as evidenced by last night’s performance.

Sandra Fluke

Fluke even started out with a lie.

… Republicans shut me out from a hearing on contraception. In fact, on that panel, they didn’t hear from a single woman …

What? Wait a minute. I know we’ve heard this before, but pro-life women don’t count? For that matter, women who don’t want to pay for other women’s birth control – pro-life or not – don’t count? The New York Times reported months ago that “the committee heard testimony from two women, both opposed to the administration policy.” Hmmm…but not a single woman spoke on the panel. Right, Sandra. Thanks for calling my friends and me basically “non-women,” simply because we disagree with your extreme views.

Fluke then continued with impressive-sounding exaggerations that held little substance – exaggerations about how a Romney presidency would lead us to an “offensive, obsolete relic of our past.” I’m left to imagine exactly what she was referring to, but I know that mothers being stopped from killing their children is certainly not offensive. And ending Planned Parenthood’s funding would actually be a new step of progress, not a “relic” that belongs in our past. Nice words, though.

Fluke also criticized Mitt Romney for failing to take a stand against the “extreme bigoted voices in his own party.” For the record, there are bigots in any political party. But should a politician really spend his time publicly dismissing and disagreeing with all the silly, misinformed, and offensive comments that his fellow party members make? Would the public really prefer to hear what statements a presidential candidate did not make and does not agree with instead of hearing what he actually does stand for? Personally, I think that kind of strategy would merely promote excessive confusion. And President Obama certainly does not constantly take time of out his busy schedule to take a stand against the extreme bigots in his own party. Oh, wait, I forgot. Liberals are never bigots. Or extreme. My bad.

In Fluke’s opinion, presidents and presidential candidates ought to take more of their time standing up for poor, helpless women who are “verbally attacked” by public figures. For some reason, I’m not sure how that promotes women’s rights and the view of women as strong and powerful. That aside, why no call from Fluke for President Obama to return Bill Maher’s money? After all, Maher used very vulgar language to criticize Bristol Palin and then declared that he was not at all sorry. Maybe Bristol Palin isn’t a private enough citizen for Fluke, but still, is it really okay – by her own standards – for Obama to refuse to correct Maher, make no phone call to offer his support to Palin, and readily accept Maher’s dirty money? Seems like a double-standard to me, but I’m realizing that Fluke is pretty good at those.

In her remarks, Fluke decided to describe the America she believes we will inherit if Romney is elected in November:

An America in which states humiliate women by forcing us to endure invasive ultrasounds that we don’t want and our doctors say that we don’t need.

An America in which we have a new vice president who co-sponsored a bill that would allow pregnant women to die preventable deaths in our emergency rooms.

An America where access to birth control is controlled by people who will never use it.

Let’s quickly address all three of these lies/deceptions/misinformation. First, any doctor worth his salt will indeed say that a woman needs an ultrasound before an abortion to determine exactly where the baby is and how far along the pregnancy is. Even Planned Parenthood clearly states that women may undergo an ultrasound before an abortion in their clinics. A Planned Parenthood telephone hotline says that they will do an ultrasound before a surgical abortion. And women, if you’re not receiving an ultrasound first, you should be very afraid that the doctor has absolutely no idea what he’s doing. To say that states are “humiliating” women with “invasive” ultrasounds is to call the kettle black. Planned Parenthood itself “humiliates” women with these same “invasive” ultrasounds.

Secondly, I assume that Fluke was referring to the Personhood-type legislation that Paul Ryan sponsored. Nothing in Personhood bills would prevent a woman from receiving life-saving treatment. Recognizing an unborn child as a person with the right to life does not in any way, shape, or form take away a woman’s equal right to life.

Finally, I’m not understanding Fluke’s implication that men never use birth control. You’d think she would understand how a condom is used, especially since Planned Parenthood so freely hands them out. Granted, women are the ones who use hormonal birth control, which must be Fluke’s method of choice. But let’s not act like men, once again, have no say whatsoever. They are indeed one half of the equation when we’re talking about human reproduction.

Fluke drew applause by ending her speech with an appeal to women and men. She said:

We talk often about choice. But ladies – and gentlemen – it’s now time to choose.

I guess when abortion supporters want to elect their choice of a politician, they want men to speak up and act. But when it comes to protecting their own children, paying for birth control with their tax dollars, or ending abortion – well, in that case, men had better sit down and be quiet.

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  • http://twitter.com/CalFreiburger Calvin Freiburger

    Darn, you beat me to it :) Great job, Kristi!

    Obama’s hypocrisy about Maher is especially damning to Fluke, considering the way she phrases it: Obama “thinks of his daughters—not his delegates or donors.”

    And it’s not just Maher – Obama called Rep. Alan Grayson, one of the most hate-filled, obnoxious thugs around (and somebody who, unlike Rush, actually held office at the time), an “outstanding member of Congress.” http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/10/27/barack-obama-alan-grayson-outstanding-member-of-congress/

    It’s also worth reminding people about why Fluke’s testimony was rejected, and that it was the Democrats who chose not to have another, actually qualified, witness on their side attend because they wanted to manufacture a sexism smear instead: http://washingtonexaminer.com/gop-dems-played-games-over-sandra-fluke/article/1158036#.UEgEzEQsTbk

    “The Democrats played games with us the day before [the hearing],”
    says a Republican committee source. “After days of asking for a
    witness, they waited until the last minute, the afternoon before the
    hearing. They asked us to invite Rev. Barry Lynn [head of Americans
    United for Separation of Church and State] and Ms. Fluke. We said we’ll
    invite one, per standard procedure. We formally invited Rev. Lynn, and
    the Democrats, at 4:30 pm, changed their mind and said they wanted
    Fluke. We said too late. They told Rev. Lynn not to show up the next
    day.”

    “When the hearing took place, Democrats proceeded to clobber
    Republicans. “Where are the women?” asked New York Rep. Carolyn Maloney
    as she looked at the all-male first panel for the hearing. (Two women
    testified in the hearing’s second panel, but Maloney and her fellow
    Democrats ignored that.)

    “Issa explained that Democrats had requested Barry Lynn, that Lynn was
    invited, and that Democrats then retracted the Lynn request. As for
    Fluke, Issa said Republicans had never heard of the Democrats’
    last-minute choice. “I asked our staff what is her background, what has
    she done,” Issa said at the hearing. “They did the usual that we do
    when we’re not provided the three days and the forms to go with it. They
    did a Google search. They looked and found that she was, in fact, and
    is a college student who appears to have become energized over this
    issue and participated in approximately a 45-minute press conference…I
    cannot and will not arbitrarily take a majority or minority witness if
    they do not have the appropriate credentials, both for a hearing at the
    full committee of the U.S. House of Representatives and if we cannot vet
    them in a timely fashion.” (Fluke is in fact a 30 year-old law student
    with an extensive history of activism in leftist causes.)”

    • Kristiburtonbrown

      Ahhh…thanks, Calvin! I always appreciate your skill and researched info. All of those points are great ones to bring up – and of course ones that the Dems and abortion supporters would like to ignore =) I’d have liked to have seen an article about Fluke’s speech by you. Too bad I beat you too it!

  • Stoneybrooke

    I’ll refrain from commenting on the overall bitter tone of this editorial, but I do have to point out that regarding “letting women die in our emergency rooms”, Sandra Fluke was referring not to HR 212 (the personhood bill co-sponsored by Paul Ryan), but to HR 358, a bill that would have allowed hospitals to refuse to provide an abortion even if it were an emergency situation and the patient would die (usually by bleeding out) without it. This bill was also co-sponsored by Paul Ryan, and it actually passed the House last year. Since she even mentioned emergency rooms, it’s pretty clear that that was the specific bill to which she was referring. I just wanted to clarify! :-)

    • http://twitter.com/CalFreiburger Calvin Freiburger
      • Stoneybrooke

        Others on that site have already pointed out the many issues with that little assertion. I see no point in arguing with you, however, since you rarely make any sense and just start calling people names when they disagree with you. That’s why I didn’t reply to you specifically; you’re not capable of holding a productive discussion with someone whose views differ from yours.

        The fact remains, however, that Kristi was mistaken as to the specific bill in question. That was why I commented.

        • http://twitter.com/CalFreiburger Calvin Freiburger

          Or it could be that you don’t want to deal with people who call out your misconduct.

          • Stoneybrooke

            Haha, “misconduct”, really? Well, I have actually managed to have enlightening/productive discussions with other anti-abortion people, both in person and even on the Internet. You’re the one being difficult about this (and giving any readers a very poor impression of so-called “pro-lifers”), and since no one’s really accomplishing much here anyway, I see no reason to engage with you further. Have a nice evening!

          • http://twitter.com/CalFreiburger Calvin Freiburger

            I debated you respectfully until you showed bad faith by falsely describing my comments. Embracing the “Let Women Die Act” smear is something else a good-faith participant in the debate would not do.

            Many pro-lifers place a higher premium on decorum than I do. Instead, I believe the reason dishonesty and defamation are so prevalent in America’s political debates is because we don’t sufficiently stigmatize such behavior and question the integrity of those who engage in it.

          • Fap

            Is it hard to concentrate with that loud Fap Fap Fap sound that happens every time you write something Calvin?

    • http://twitter.com/Astraspider Astraspider

      “… the overall bitter tone of this editorial”

      Methinks there’s a new contagion in right-wing circles: Fluke Derangement Syndrome.

      @AnnCoulter: “Bill Clinton just impregnated Sandra Fluke backstage…”

      @RogerJStoneJr: “I wish Ted Kennedy could have dated Sandra Fluke! or take her for a drive !”

      • Stoneybrooke

        Haha, I noticed that, too. And I think one of the worst aspects of those statements is that they aren’t even funny or clever! There wasn’t anything remotely witty about Ann Coulter’s, and then the other one is only another example of people who call themselves “pro-life” and yet wish for someone’s death.

        • LoveTheLeast8

          Wish for someone’s death? Are you saying that Kennedy killed someone?

        • Mitch Behna

          Don’t take it out of context. It’s the left that is claiming Romney is a murderer, tax-thief, felon, etc.

    • Kristiburtonbrown

      Stoneybrooke, Thanks for bringing up HR 358. Similar arguments are brought against that and HR 212 by abortion supporters, so it’s sometimes hard to be sure which one they’re discussing. In this case, though, I think you must be correct now that you bring it up =) So thank you!

      To address HR 358, I must say that Fluke is still entirely wrong. The bill did not actually address whether or not hospitals should refuse to provide an abortion in that situation, and it’s been very misrepresented. In fact, the bill has a discrimination section which is the section where it discusses hospitals, individual health providers, etc. And what it says is that federal programs and state programs that receive federal dollars cannot discriminate against hospitals, etc. who refuse to perform abortions. It does not even mention the circumstances of the abortions because that’s not at issue at all in the bill.

      So, either way, Flue is wrong. And whoever has explained HR 358 to you is way off target as well. You can read it for yourself here: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr358/text. That’s what I did and it’s pretty self-explanatory.

      • Kristiburtonbrown

        Check this on the NY Times site for more on how Fluke was wrong about HR 358: http://times247.com/articles/fluke-ryan-would-let-women-die

      • Stoneybrooke

        Reading it myself, I agree that it probably wasn’t intended to allow doctors to stand around while a woman bleeds out (and of course, I don’t see why even a vehemently anti-abortion doctor would do that since the fetus isn’t going survive its mother’s death anyway!), but in that non-discrimination section, the fact that it doesn’t mention the circumstances is precisely the problem–no exceptions for doctors refusing even to refer a patient elsewhere for what could (rarely, of course, but possibly) be a life-or-death emergency for her.

        I know that sounds like an overreaction, but there have been issues with bills/laws like this in the past, most notably that chemical endangerment law in Alabama that was intended to protect (born) children whose parents/guardians were cooking meth in their home, and which was then used to prosecute pregnant women. You might think that’s a good idea, but my main point is that you can’t really predict the extent to which the interpretation and application of a law will deviate from its original intent, and HR 358 left a dangerous opening.

        • LoveTheLeast8

          The charge is a pro-abortion overreach. There is other federal law that requires medical care in emergency situations and the bill would have changed none of that. It would need to have changed other codes to do what Fluke alleges. She is just making things up for a political point. Sad that we allegations based on falsehood that build hate for one side or another instead of real discussion about differences and how to solve them.

      • Faithkuz

        Fluke’s talk, relying as it does on vague references and inaccurate representations, reminds me of Nancy Pelosi’s fear-mongering response to the Protect Life Act, that “women would die on the floor.” Actually, women suffer in many, many ways from abortions (eugenics effects, deceptive tactics, sex- selected abortion and hiding sex crimes to name a few) And it’s much more specific and pointed question raising by the Susan B. Anthony feminists than the “dancing vaginas” of Code Pink and the hype and lack of facts in Sandra Fluke’s talk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00yMmIGJJfM&feature=channel&list=UL

  • DawnRo

    My guess is that when you were pregnant with your ‘cutest baby girl in the world’ you did not have a transvaginal ultrasound.

    • Becca

      I’m pretty sure most people have a vaginal ultrasound when they are pregnant. It’s standard procedure to do one about 8 or 9 weeks I believe to check things out–size, location, development–because it’s too soon then to do an abdominal ultrasound. So my educated guess is that she did. I had one. It was no big deal at all.

      • Kristiburtonbrown

        Right on, Becca. It is indeed standard procedure now at most – if not all – OBGYN’s offices and I did have one. Not a big deal, like you said. =)

  • Anonymous

    Great article. I wish Ms. Fluke would do some fact-checking before speaking to thousands of people. But like you said, lies are more interesting that the truth for many people.

  • Hugh_Oxford

    I just think it was very decent of Miss Fluke to take time out of her busy sex schedule to attend the DNC.

    • http://twitter.com/Astraspider Astraspider

      Thank you for confirming that it’s really just mindless misogyny behind the contempt of Ms. Fluke. Well done.

      • Allen Williamson

        As you know perfectly well, he was referring to Fluke’s self-described $3,000 contraception budget and the eye-popping promiscuity this implies, not her gender. So playing the “misogyny” card isn’t going to work.

        • http://twitter.com/Astraspider Astraspider

          Boy, you people need some sex ed 101. If I’m on The Pill, I have to take one pill a day, whether I have sex once a year or 365 times a year. So a prude and a slut will, at the end of the day, face the same price tag.

          • Allen Williamson

            According to Planned Parenthood, the Pill only costs “$15–$50″ per month ($180 – $600 per year), so Fluke’s $3,000 figure clearly isn’t based on taking the Pill or any other flat-rate method, as you claimed. But you knew that already, of course. Will you admit that $3,000 for contraception is either A) an indication that she needs a heck of a lot of condoms for a heck of a lot of sex, or B) a deliberately dishonest figure that she made up out of thin air?

          • http://twitter.com/Astraspider Astraspider

            (A) Health insurance doesn’t cover condoms, so I don’t know what tree you’re barking up there. In any event, I’m not really interested in how much sex Georgetown college students have. I really don’t think you should be either. At the very least, don’t fold that interest into policy discussions because it reveals you as someone stooping to the lowest kind of ad hominem.

            (B) Ms. Fluke’s testimony was about contraceptive costs for the duration of law school. So, say it takes you six years to finish law school, your Planned Parenthood figures, above, come out about right.

          • Allen Williamson

            A) If taxpayers are expected to cover conception costs for every college student who wants to engage in premarital sex on campus, it is certainly within our rights to ask why they’re doing that and why we need to pay for it. This is not a matter of curing disease (regardless of Fluke’s attempt to equate it with medical care), but rather a matter of allowing someone to engage in recreational sex (the Pill doesn’t even prevent venereal disease, after all). Are we also expected to pay for other recreational activities for every college student? B) It took Fluke three or four years to finish law school, didn’t it? Where are you getting the “six years” estimate from? But even if it’s six years, PP’s numbers would indicate an amount as low as $1080 ($180 x 6). Only the uppermost bound would be near Fluke’s number.

  • harmony

    I hear so much about pro choice. I’m happy to finally read a pro life article. I am pro choice, choose to say no, choose to use birth control or condoms..

    • Richard

      …choose to give birth against your will…

  • Susanne

    The point about denying access to birth control is doubly flawed, because even hormonal birth control will be readily and inexpensively available. It is not being banned or regulated in any way. It just will not be financed by those who find it morally repugnant.

  • http://www.facebook.com/fiona.moodie Fiona Moodie

    God Bless you, Kristi!

  • JoAnna Wahlund

    THANK YOU. Ugh, her blatant lies infuriated me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=718339614 Sarah Jane

    Early on in pregnancy, a transvaginal ultrasound is performed for 2 crucial MEDICAL reasons!! First of all, it is necessary to comfirm that the embryo has implanted into the endometrial lining of the uterus. An embryo that implants outside of the uterus is called an ECTOPIC PREGNANCY, which can be fatal for the mother and almost ALWAYS resuls in a miscarriage & often requires emergency surgery!!! During the first trimester, the most ACCURATE due date is given between 6-8 weeks. The gestastional age is based on the ” crown rump length ” measurement. There is NOTHING forceful or demeaning about inserting a thin, wand-like tranducer into the vagina for the optimal diagnostic images!!! As a woman, and high risk Ob/Gyn ultrasound technologist, I find the statements made by Sandra Fluke, to be extremely IGNORANT and MISLEADING!!! Transvaginal ultrasounds are also used to evaluate uterine and ovarian abnormalities, including cancer!!! It is also an accurate, SAFE diagnostic took that cannot harm a fetus!!! Measuring the cervical length can DIAGNOSE & assist in monitering PREMATURE LABOR!!! Ultrasounds done on top of the belly cannot provide clear visualization until around the 12th week. PLEASE get your information from reliable sources that don’t have an agenda!!! WOMEN NEED TO REALIZE THAT ABORTION IS NOT A FORM A BIRTH CONTROL!!

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