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Stunning photo of Noah, miscarried at 12 weeks, will amaze you

Noah – the name means “peace” and “comfort,”  and for Lara, this was the perfect name for her son. She was 12 weeks and 5 days pregnant when baby Noah died from a miscarriage. Heartbroken by the loss of her son, Lara wanted his life to have meaning in the world. With this photo of Noah, that dream is becoming a reality.

“Even though he only lived for 12 weeks, Noah was special to me,” Lara told Louisiana Right to Life. “I am blessed that I was able to hold him, to see that he was real. Just like every other mother, this first photo of my child will always be special to me. I am devastated that we lost Noah, but I know that his 12 weeks of life had a purpose. His body reveals the miracle of human life.”

A true miracle. At 12 weeks’ gestation, Noah’s reflexes were becoming more refined. Like other preborn humans at this stage, he responded to touch, and moved around in his mother’s womb.

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He started to close his fingers and curl his toes; his liver and kidneys were functioning, and most of his systems were fully formed. Noah only needed time to develop and grow.

What this picture of tiny Noah displays is the beauty of human life in the womb. In no way was Noah a “clump of tissue,” as the abortion industry would have us believe. He was human. He was perfect and beautiful, and no child like him should ever have to face a death sentence just for existing.

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At 12 weeks’ gestation, that death sentence would have typically come in the form of a suction abortion, in which the preborn baby and placenta are sucked out of the uterus, torn apart by pressure 29 times stronger than a household vacuum. The abortionist then goes through the contents of the container, piecing the tiny person back together to ensure all of his or her body parts are accounted for.

It isn’t simply “contents of the uterus” being removed – it is a preborn human, who has reflexes and a beating heart. A human being who only needed more time to grow, along with the love and care of a family. Noah’s short life proves this, and his life will likely save many others his age from abortion.

“If [Noah] could help show one mother considering abortion the beauty of her child,” Noah’s mother said. “Then our loss would be worth it.”

  • cranemaker

    He’s beautiful!

    • hillary clinton

      It is evident that he’s a baby, yes, but ‘beautiful’? Let’s not get carried away.

      • prolifemama

        It seems, hillary clinton, that you possess a limited eye for beauty. (sure sound like your namesake, dear)

      • Donna Montanarella

        What a heartless comment! Your name suits you cold blindness! I pity you and inhumane people who “think” as you do. Keep your rotten comments to yourself! Haven’t you ever heard of the saying “If you have nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all !” ??? You ought to try it! Not only do you offend people who value life, but what a horrible thing to say about this mother’s child! Shame on you! Your behavior is disgraceful!

        • Mitzi

          It’s pretty obvious she’s just trying to get a rise out of people with the name and rude comment. Pro aborts

        • ThatGirl

          I think you failed to follow your own advice lol

          • disqus_NSXp0ZCum6

            Calling out rude and disrespectful behavior is not the same as running your mouth with said rude and disrespectful behavior! Get a grip

        • Elizabeth Jarzombek

          Woah!!! She said it was a BABY people! Let’s not argue amongst ourselves when such an important issue is at stake. As an example…I think bats are cool. Other people find them creepy. But most people don’t believe they should be destroyed or even mistreated. Just saying…

          • Jan

            Yes, isn’t it remarkable how people fight, even in court, against cruelty to animals, who have no soul, and then turn around and think abortion is OK? The taking of a life is still murder….

          • Janne Thiebaud

            I agree with you about all but the animals. I have a personal belief that loved animals do have souls, and that I will see my fur babies again to, but that is just my opinion.

      • Karen Sciance

        How sad that you cannot see the beauty in this tiny creature.

        • disqus_NSXp0ZCum6

          I know what you were saying but not a creature, rather a creation!

          • Karen Sciance

            LOL – sorry; my late husband and I affectionately called ALL the teeny ones “tiny creatures”. Then they graduate to “fresh out of the box” ;)

      • Lilli

        Just think, once upon a time you were that innocent and yes, beautiful little soul. Then you “grew up” to be a person who would make such an unnecessary and cruel statement. Hard to believe huh?

        • disqus_NSXp0ZCum6

          She’s got to say something to keep the attention off the obvious personhood and humanity of this human child!

      • disqus_NSXp0ZCum6

        Perfectly and delicately knit together in his mother’s womb. Beauty is very subjective.

        • prolifemama

          But not invisible to those who live in their hearts as well as their heads…

      • Mys77

        Yes, beautiful.

      • jp

        oh, hillary!! ..just kidding. we’d expect nothing less from you.

      • Thorneel

        Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

      • Janne Thiebaud

        You vile piece of maggot excrement! What redeeming comment could anyone make about the likes of you? The problem here is this; you would NEVER appreciate true beauty if it bit you in the arse!

    • Donna Montanarella

      He sure is!! Life is such a gift! I believe that I will someday be joined with the 3 babies I lost. In the mean time, Our little babies in Heaven have a great babysitter!

      • Karen Sciance

        As one of my friends once said, you haven’t “lost” them: you know EXACTLY where they are ;)

  • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

    This shows the truth of the unborn Human lives . A real baby not a blob . Even at 12 weeks . Thank you for sharing . Thank you for showing the Humanity of the unborn ! Your baby is beautiful .

  • Danie

    Cool

    • sharon saunders

      I am so sorry for your loss. And you have done a beautiful thing. Boldly displaying Gods amazing creation. He is beautiful! I too held my unborn miscarried baby in my hands. I know the pain. But I know that our babies are being tenderly cared for by their/ our Heavenly Father, and someday we will be re united. The Hope that we have In Jesus Christ through salvation brings us peace! And to those who think that the unborn are not human til they are full term–i pray This precious baby show you differently. God Bless you!!!

  • Tanya

    I lost my baby at 7 weeks. He/she was unrecognizable. Its amazing what 4 more weeks can do. beautiful

  • Kay Kalidja

    I held my own baby just like that. I had miscarried. So tiny. I called him Bruce. I put him in a glass and into the medicine cabinet. When I got out of the hospital a few days later. I wrapped him in velvet, put him in a match box and buried him in our shelter belt.It sure looked like a baby to me.

    • Audra Beth Bates

      I lost twins at 3mo along and they would’ve been 4yrs old this September.

      • Janne Thiebaud

        I am so sorry Audra, I can only imagine your pain. Bless you all the days of your life.

    • Janne Thiebaud

      My heart hurts for you Kay, and Bless you for caring for Bruce, and giving him the love, caring and dignity in death, as he would have been afforded as a full term baby. I pray you found your actions as healing, and you are secure in the knowledge that you will be reunited again some day. God Bless you sweet lady.

  • BusyMommyof3

    My 2 year old daughter saw Noah’s picture while I was reading, and said, “Awe, baby….I love you baby!” She is so sweet, and already smarter than most abortionists!
    I am so sorry for your loss. Thank you for sharing your story, to help raise awareness, and combat abortion.

    • ThatGirl

      “smarter than some abortionists”
      So because people choose to do things differently than you, they’re stupid?

      • Martha Benton

        You hit the nail on the head. Let’s see you stand before God on Judgement Day and tell him that abortion is not murder.

        • Ronnie

          Let’s see you stand before God…Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged!

          • Jan

            Why do you feel everyone who speaks out against abortion hate or are prejudice… it’s because we love, we want abortionists and their clients to realize what they do is wrong and change their ways. We are concerned about your welfare, we do not hate you!

          • Jessica

            If you are against abortion you do hate women. You do not get to tell me what is right or wrong for my life. I do not see anything about my way of life that needs to change. I do my best to avoid an unwanted pregnancy, but I see nothing wrong with an early abortion if it is needed.

          • Elaine Westbury

            Its not your life anyone is concerned with. Its the innocent baby’s life . You could die and no one would care. You know why? Cause you are a heartless uncaring person who thinks murdering a baby is ok. Your disgusting.

          • Jessica

            I am not heartless. I have a husband, a great family, and friends that I would give my life for. I do not consider an embryo to be a baby and I do not like abortion is murder.

          • Audra Beth Bates

            An embryo is a baby and their hearts beat at 18 days!

          • Jessica

            An embryo is an embryo. A fetus a fetus. A BABY is a baby.

          • Audra Beth Bates

            You need to educate yourself.

          • Jessica

            I am educated… thanks for your opinion though.

          • Janne Thiebaud

            You were a baby, infant, toddler, child, teenager, adolescent, adult….throughout all of these stages you were still a human being. The embryonic stages are no different, they are also a human being. You separate these to suit your own conscience, so just keep doing that, and go and get your tubes tied…the world does NOT need any babies coming to you to mother…Heaven help us all if that should happen!

          • Jessica

            Don’t worry sweetheart I promise you I will never have a baby.

          • BadWolf

            these people need to educate themselves. IUD’s are actually proven more effective than tubal ligation. I have one myself. Plus tubal ligation is more risky with more side effects. i dont want a second child. one was enough! i love him, but i’m certainly not abstaining from sex with my husband until i’m old. these people are nuts. no wonder so many people are against the idea of God, with people like them claiming to represent him. seriously {facepalm} sorry again Jessica

          • Anna USF

            I hope you don’t say the same things you say to Jessica to your own children!! “Heaven help us (them) all if that should happen!”

          • dwarf

            And embryo and fetus are just terms for development stages just like adolescent, adult, and senior.

          • Audra Beth Bates

            An embryo is an unborn offspring in the process of development aka fetus, unborn child/baby, zygote “human embryo”

          • Audra Beth Bates

            The embryo becomes a fetus during the 9th week of pregnancy.

          • Jessica

            Yes and the fetus becomes a baby once the woman gives birth.

          • Audra Beth Bates

            You need to read about and watch how abortions are performed. It’s horrible!! You don’t care about human life and the unborn who suffer from yours and other women’s stupidity. You and the abortionists will burn in Hell for what you’ve done!! May God have mercy on your cold heartless soul!!

          • Jessica

            Most abortions are early abortions, and are not horrible. The embryo cannot feel anything and does not suffer.

          • Janne Thiebaud

            You know this how????

          • Jessica

            A simple google search will tell you this.

          • Janne Thiebaud

            Is it possible that you really ARE that stupid? Clearly you are very poorly educated if you think that. You are saying that it is not until a baby takes its first breath, that it becomes a baby? So what are the babies born months premature? Are they babies, even though they are 2 and 3 months premature when born? I am sure you can see that your argument just sunk big time, and no amount of back stepping will change the realities.

          • Anna USF

            That shows you are well educated, starting a sentence with – “Is it possible that you really ARE that stupid?” We have such a mature group here!

          • Jessica

            The embryo is developing into a fetus which develops into a baby.

          • Audra Beth Bates

            No baby should ever be aborted. That’s why there is adoption!

          • Audra Beth Bates

            God made women so we could be wives to our husbands and mothers to our children. You can’t play God by killing your own flesh and blood. You should donate all your eggs to IVF doctors for the women who are unable to get pregnant.

          • OH, please. If that were true there wouldn’t be so many single women out there. Or men. Your modern Protty view of women is amusing.

          • Jessica

            Adoption can solve the problem for an unwanted child. Adoption does not solve the problem of an unwanted pregnancy.

          • Audra Beth Bates

            Yes it does! Give birth to he/she and give the baby up. My mom was 17 and pregnant, living at home and not married. She gave birth to my brother and gave him for adoption. And that was in 1976!!

          • Jessica

            How does adoption stop the unwanted pregnancy?
            That would be my entire reason for needing an abortion.

          • Audra Beth Bates

            Don’t you have any guilt??

          • Jessica

            About what? I have never had an abortion, but if I had I wouldn’t have any reason to feel guilty.

          • Audra Beth Bates

            There’s seriously something wrong with you.

          • Jessica

            Why? Because I know that I would have an abortion if my birth control failed?

          • Audra Beth Bates

            When I got pregnant w my 3rd boy we weren’t financially ready to care for another baby. So I suggested adoption to my husband and had decided that I give my son up to my cousin, who’s name is Jessica. She hasn’t been able to get pregnant since 2003 when her abusive boyfriend caused her miscarriage. But in the end we pulled through and kept him! His name is Jay Matthew and he’ll be 3 this Dec!

          • Jessica

            Your problem was you didn’t want another kid. My problem would be I wouldn’t want the kid or the pregnancy. That is why adoption would not solve anything for me.

          • Audra Beth Bates

            My husband and I did want another child but not that soon because at the time my oldest boys were 2 and 4.

          • Janne Thiebaud

            You are just a selfish bitch! Get pregnant, carry it full term and adopt it out. It solves the problem of you looking after it for life, and makes you accountable for your careless sexual activities.

          • Jessica

            No if I get pregnant I will abort it and there in not one thing you woman hating anti-choice self can do about it.
            Abortion solves the problem and I don’t have to give up my life for nine months for something I don’t want.

          • Anna

            Jessica, I’m sorry some have been rude to you here. I think people on all sides of this issue get spun up and passionate and if can get ugly quickly.

            I wanted to point out that things don’t cease to be what they are because of your or my or anyone else’s opinion. There is no difference between a child who is wanted and one who is unwanted. They remain the same physically. They don’t cease to be human if we don’t want them, nor do they become human when we want them. If we clear away all the noise of the bickering and everyone’s opinion, we are left with facts.

            It seems you are saying that a child can only be a gift or a blessing if you perceive it to be one. Perception is not reality, though it’s easy to feel that way. I am not sure where you fall on the spiritual spectrum, but it seems you may be somewhat of a relativist and nihilist. In which case it is fruitless to argue about these points with you, because you believe reality is whatever you make it; you do your thing and decide what is right and wrong for you.

            Some people here (myself included) believe there exists an absolute Truth, that some things are right and wrong whether we believe they are or not; they just are.

            Kind of like (kind if a silly analogy, I know) if I enjoyed a steady diet of only Doritos and Twinkies, and that was my thing, my body, my choice, my life. Then some people came along and told me that eating these things could harm me and maybe even kill me at some point. I could get defensive and balk at them–how DARE they tell me what to do with MY life and MY body?!!

            Then they show me studies, present facts and give me examples of people who’ve gone down that road and not ended well.

            Well, I could say, that was THEM. That was their choice!! I like twinkies and doritos. They are good and I feel fine! I feel like they’re good for me. I can give examples too, I know someone who ate these things for years and years and lived to be 100. These people need to quit pushing their views on me.

            And yes, it is my choice to live my life as I see fit. No one denies that. But in the end, these people who were calling my attention to destructive behaviors were not trying to control my body or my life. They were just presenting me with biological facts. The food doesn’t cease to be bad for me because I believe it is good for me and surround myself with people who believe that as well.

            So who is the “bad guy” here? The people who enable and encourage me to do what I want and set no boundaries? Or the people who see I am headed down a bad path and try to warn me? Who is really on my side? Ultimately?

            Look Jessica, I know it can be hard to feel pro-lifers are on your side, because let’s be real, some are not. And many who are, are not charitable in their approach. And a lot of them are also more pro-birth than pro-life. Forget “them”! Try to quiet all the voices around this issue, and in silence, stillness, at the end of the day, reflect: What is reality? What is freedom? What is objective reality? When no one is talking and there are no opinions voiced, what is happening on the abortion table?

            And you know what? Many of us ARE on your side. I am. We are not trying to control you and tell you “what is right or wrong for your life”
            I really hate these debates, because it can soo quickly turn into a pissing contest of who will win, who can be more clever in their reply, who can cut down the next person. Everyone is on the defense.

            Dearest Jessica, don’t be dismayed at the venom being spat in forums like this. Please know you are loved, and you have (at least) one person praying for you.

          • Jessica

            I think my problem with “pro-life” people is they are really just pro-birth.
            I hear so many of them complain about welfare queens and having to help single moms raise kids. I also hear many of them complain about birth control and helping women who need access to it. Wouldn’t easier access to birth control be a good thing to both sides?

            I just think people who are against abortion make no sense most of the time.

          • Janne Thiebaud

            Yes it does! Have the guts to take the baby full term, then adopt it out. There should NEVER be an unwanted pregnancy (outside of rape), in the world today, when birth control is so easily and cheaply obtainable. Even many rape victims, young girls, choose to carry the baby full term, before adopting it out! As I said before, if your worried about getting pregnant, then keep your legs together, maybe buy yourself a dildo!!!

          • Jessica

            ANY pregnancy for me will be unwanted. I do not want kids and this means I will never want a pregnancy.
            And I think I prefer my husband to a dildo…

          • No it’s not. Adoption is public policy by statute. There is no right to adopt.

          • Janne Thiebaud

            You can think what you like, but abortion IS murder, it might be legalised murder, but it still an evil thing to do, outside of rape! Google what babies look like at various stages of development, you will be gobsmacked! These babies as early as 10 – 12 weeks, are fully formed, with functioning heart, liver and kidneys, and already starting to curl toes and fingers! They are NOT just a bunch of cells that are forming nothing at even that early stage. Why did you marry if you don’t want kids? Wasn’t that a rather redundant step to take?

          • Jessica

            Abortion isn’t murder.
            Why did I marry if I don’t want kids? Is that even a serious question?
            I married my husband because I love him.

          • Stephen Russ

            Hey Jessica, I’m 15 and this is what I know. Why do you think that just because that when a baby is born, it now then becomes a baby. My mom has been blessed with 10 kids! I have witnessed 6 of my moms pregnancies. Sure in the early stages of pregnancies a women may have weird symptoms. As the picture above shows that BABY at just 12 weeks is fully formed. It just needs time to form. This baby at just twelve weeks is HUMAN. Then at around 28 weeks I have witnessed from my mothers own pregnancies, The baby can kick, move around, or even punch at the mothers stomach. To see and witness something like this is truly amazing! To feel a living human inside my moms stomach kicking is awesome. Knowing that you don’t Ever want to have kids, please don’t get pregnant Jessica. I Beg you. Please Abortion is not the answer… Please

          • Jessica

            Your mom wanted kids- otherwise she would not have considered 10 kids a blessing.
            As a woman I can tell you there would be nothing amazing about having a fetus kick me.

          • TaargusTaargus

            Tell them how it really is Jessica.

          • Julie

            What a horrible thing to say to someone. How DARE you say abortion is murder then in the same sentence hope someone dies! Wtf is wrong with you??? I hope and pray you do not call yourself a Christian because Jesus would NEVER condone someone saying that. You are a hypocritical, judgmental jerk who really needs to think long and hard about what you said to Jessica. You are a very, very bad person.

          • Susan Collins

            //Its not your life anyone is concerned with//

            And that is EXACTLY what rabid pro-lifers are about. They DON’T care about women. They don’t give a crap what happens to women.

            Finally, one who actually admits it.

          • Stephen Russ

            And you don’t give a crap about what would happen to Babies. You Pro-Choice people just keep on dodging the points that every one is telling you about! So you must think your life is more important than a babies?!?!?!

          • worldwideed

            I love women personally, so much so that I wish millions more had got to be born, and not had their lives unjustly taken.

          • Jessica

            But what about the women that are born and have lives? Why do you not care about their life and what they want?

          • worldwideed

            I believe that women, and everyone for that matter, should have total and complete freedom to make their own choices. Be that a women who’s been out of the womb for 1 day or in it for 1 day more. Women should be able to pick where they live, what they drive, who they marry, their job, and weather they want to live or not. I love women, that’s why I want this barbaric practice ended. It does nothing but damage women emotionally and unjustly ends human lives.

          • Jessica

            If you love women you would never dream of making a woman give me up life for an unwanted pregnancy.

          • Audra Beth Bates

            Adoption is the answer. Abortion is not! How many unborn children have you murdered?? You should have never had sex if you didn’t want children!!

          • Jessica

            Adoption is an answer for a born child that is unwanted. Adoption is not the answer for a woman who has an unwanted pregnancy.

            I will never want children in my life. Do you people honestly expect me to give up sex for my entire life?

          • Janne Thiebaud

            YES!! At the very least, use birth control, better yet, get your tubes tied!

          • Jessica

            I always use BC.

          • P. Stone

            Jessica, if you are so sure that you never want children, then get your tubes tired. That way you won’t have to worry about an unwanted pregnancy, or having an abortion and the dangers that go with ANY MAJOR SURGERY!

          • Abortion is not major surgery. You can DIY.

          • Adam Knapp

            Why are you trying so hard to get rid of the facilities that provide birth control and resources for women?

          • Janet Stintzcum

            There are a LOT of facilities that provide birth control and women’s “services” without murdering unborn children and profiting from the sale of their body parts. Obama Care, remember? Try calling a PP facility to make an appointment for a mammogram……you can’t – they don’t do it.

          • Audra Beth Bates

            Exactly! BC can be obtained at a Dr office as well as mammograms

          • At a high scost. I’ve seen BC go from $2.50 a month in the 1960s to over $50 a month now.

          • Send me a list. And I don’ tmean bogus CPCs.

          • Kamarin

            It’s not murdering a child for they aren’t not considered a human until they take their first breath or their feet exit the vagina.

          • Audra Beth Bates

            PP is a brainwashed business that only scars, hurts and prevents women from having a normal life. Many of those women now regret their decision to MURDER their BABIES. It’s emotional and physical depravity!! It’s depressing and heartbreaking as well!!

          • Having baybees is abnormal. Parenthood destroys lives. Many women do not want baybees. Why should women be forced to breed for the state?

          • Kamarin

            If they get rid of them, women are gonna start having abortions in alleyways again

          • gratefulmouse

            the facilities a woman should see would be the normal gyn clinic not an out of the way clinic…why have a separate place then a hospital….to me it seems to hide evil that goes on in there….beyond birth control pills and check ups…

          • Marbella Pizano

            ??

          • Brenda Bertram Lowrance

            What a selfish statement. Killing a baby to suit your lifestyle….

          • Cathy

            When 1 or more human(s) have to die to fix or solve someones problems then it is the wrong answer.

          • Janet Stintzcum

            Sterilization would work.

          • Jessica

            Wow, sterilization…isn’t that what the Nazis wanted to do?

          • Tawnee Jenzen

            No, but be responsible today with all the birth control choices available, to get pregnant is irresponsibility. Women are selfish and only care about “their bodies, and their choices “.
            And if you will never want children, Make a more permanent commitment to avoid pregnancy.

          • Jessica

            I use birth control and agree that every woman should. I know that even the best birth control can fail. I know someone who claims they were using two forms of birth control and it failed.- not sure if they were telling the truth since I wasn’t there but I am inclined to believe her.

          • Yes they do. The real target here is not abortion but contraception. Abortion is just a dramatic hook to hang their hatred of women. I mean, there is nothing scarier than a woman who owns her body, is there?

          • gratefulmouse

            best thing to do is if you don’t want children take birth control pills…or close your legs…

          • Janne Thiebaud

            Amen and EXACTLY!!!!

          • Adoption and abortion unrelated. One is a decision to not parent. The other is a decision to not breed. Ask the 6 million adult adoptees in the US today who are denied access to their own birth certificates and original identities how they feel about adoption. . Ask the women who placed children for adoption who in retrospect say they wish they’d have aborted. Adoption has been known historically as the “catholic abortion.”

          • Janne Thiebaud

            How you can even say that in this day and age is beyond me! Birth control is available freely to ALL women, if they don’t use it, then they have NO right to abort a growing baby. If more young women took birth control, or better yet, learned to keep their legs together, the world would not be in this pickle! Accept some personal responsibility for crying out loud!

          • Jessica

            Birth control is not free. I really wish all these anti-choicers would let me in on the secret to where free birth control is because I had to pay several hundred dollars for my IUD. It wasn’t even close to being free.

          • RLP

            Food isn’t free, either. If you want to have unrequited sex, be my guest. And pay for your BC. I’ve never had ONE thing handed to me. You’re just an entitled brat.

          • Adam Knapp

            You’re gonna have to pick one, then. If you don’t want abortions, you’re gonna have to contribute to other methods.

            And yes, if you live in this country you’ve gotten plenty of things ‘handed’ to you. Stop being a baby and grow up, we’ve got a society to run here.

          • Jessica

            I’ve never had anything handed to me either. I worked through school and have paid back most of my student loans. I didn’t have a rich mommy and daddy to pay for my school so I had to take out loans.

          • maegan

            You no I’m sure glad your mother didn’t think like you because if she had you wouldn’t be here maybe if you weren’t a little hoe and learned to keep your legs closed you wouldn’t have to be a murder but you having sex us your choice because it’s your body but guess what the human being that grows inside women guess what it has its own body in what way do you have the right to choose what happens to then it’s should by be your choice if they die or not the child shouldn’t have to suffer because you want to abuse your body it’s people like you who should have to go through what them poor babies go through I’m pretty sure if you were being torn apart piece by piece with no one to help you you would change your outlook on the whole idea of abortion I just went through a miscarriage and I actually wanted my child but God wanted her more but like I said I’m sure glad your mother wasn’t like you because if she was we wouldn’t be having this conversation

          • Jessica

            I am not a “little hoe”. I only have sex with my husband but we both want a child free life.
            Sorry about your miscarriage but that still doesn’t give you the right to force other women into unwanted pregnancies.

          • Marbella Pizano

            Abstinence is free

          • Tell that to your husband/

          • Marbella Pizano

            Responsibility for actions is your solution

          • Jessica

            So your suggestion is to give up sex with my husband for life?

          • Janet Stintzcum

            …get your tubes tied…..better, easier on you, and one price.

          • Where?

          • Janet Stintzcum

            …I love women enough to keep them from killing an innocent child. I am a woman, and I know that I have the responsibility and the privilege of co-creating life. We do NOT have the right to decide whether a child lives or dies.

          • We are all born in sin.

          • Jessica

            As a woman i can tell you there is NO privilege in the curse of being able to get pregnant.

          • Jessica

            No, it’s because the pregnancy is actually a real, live baby that has every right to be born and live her own life. Ripping her apart, piece by piece, is simply murder.

          • Jessica

            An embryo has no rights…. the pregnant woman has rights and anti-choicers ignore them.

          • Audra Beth Bates

            And it also keeps some women from being able to have more children after a horrible abortion.

          • Have you ever mother who isn’t a slave? I haven’t.

          • Marbella Pizano

            If you don’t want the baby give him/her iup for abortion

          • Jessica

            I don’t want the pregnancy- adoption won’t solve that.

          • Janet Stintzcum

            …they have choices. The innocent child does not. You are the guardian of that life, to preserve it, not to kill it.

          • Jessica

            If I am “the guardian” I can make choices as to what happens.

          • gratefulmouse

            they are alive….and then they carry life…if their mother chose not to carry them…then they wouldn’t be here…shame…

          • Jessica

            Because it is murder, plain and simple. There is no excuse for murder, ever. If you do not want your baby, give it up for adoption.

          • Jessica

            I do not want the pregnancy- is the adoption going to solve that?

          • Audra Beth Bates

            Sounds like you don’t want to have kids! Abortion is murder!! #MotherOfThree #MyTwinsAreInHeaven

          • Jessica

            I don’t want kids ever you are correct and no abortion is not murder.

          • Audra Beth Bates

            I hope one day u end up pregnant and I also hope that abortion will be illegal!! U can never be too careful unless you’re completely celibate or you’re infertile!! I’m sure there are many pro-lifers that will agree w me!! Children are a gift from God. Your mother wasnt Pro-Choice cause she gave birth to you. I’m sure you were a difficult childchild too!! #ProLife #SoEveryChildMakesTheirMark

          • Jessica

            If I ever end up pregnant I will abort. Abortion will never be 100% illegal and I will have the means to go to where it is still legal.

            A child is only a gift when wanted.

          • Audra Beth Bates

            If God blessed you with a child, He wants you to turn your life around, nurture and love that child. You were not meant to take a child’s life and were not meant to take your own life either. You must not believe in God. Children are a blessing from God whether unwanted, unplanned or planned.

          • Jessica

            If your god punished me with a child I would have an abortion. I do not want children and I would not love that child and I would not give up my life for that child.

            Unwanted pregnancies are never a blessing.

          • Janne Thiebaud

            It is really simple Jessica, keep your legs together, and you won’t have kids. If you choose to screw around and get pregnant, then have the guts to take it full term, and then if you still don’t want the baby, adopt it to a couple who cannot have kids. It is not rocket science, but it IS being responsible for the result of your own actions.

          • Jessica

            I am married so I am not “screwing around”. I do not want kids ever though, so I am not giving up sex for life with my husband.
            Just because I am a woman does not mean I have to be an incubator for an infertile couple if I get pregnant. I have the option to abort if needed.

          • Nicholas Andrew Rocca

            I have a better idea just have your tubes tied and not worry about it if you are that sure and confident in not wanting kids and in your marriage that’s cool but if your too much a pussy to do that then you are willing to have a child and just a selfish bitch that’s needs to grow up let’s not sugar coat things children are a blessing and intentional and all deserve to live once created and are in God’s hands but not for everyone so just be responsible and choose your side get off the fence it’s the fence riders that are destroying our society piece by piece honest hard truth have a wonderful day

          • Jessica

            Children are a blessing if wanted.

          • disqus_NSXp0ZCum6

            Children are no less of a blessing just because you arent capable of recognizing it! Your sick distorted mind is the issue, NOT a human baby!

          • RLP

            So your worth is determined by the whim of another? If you’re not wanted, you’re not worthy? You really really really are extremely confused.

          • Yes. actually. Just ask the administrations since 1950 who are responsible for the deaths of millions around the world through wars of aggression led by the US.

          • Trisha Holmeide

            Actually, they are always a blessing whether your want them or not and whether you choose to accept them or not and you will not only go without all the blessings God had in store for you but come under condemnation for taking innocent life (meaning the child did nothing to bring on the death sentence from you or anyone else and was not threatening to take your life etc. but merely asking you continue to hold and protect the child of your own creation until old enough to fend for him or herself outside your protective environment.

          • Adam Knapp

            It’s not a “Child” if it’s a mostly undifferentiated mass of cells. Besides, we’ve already established that the pro-lifers don’t give a shit about actual children, so this whole argument is invalid.

          • Trisha Holmeide

            Just “who” has established pro-lifers don’t care about “actual” children? What in the world could make you believe that? Why would any sane person go to all the trouble of creating crisis pregnancy clinics, supporting them with thousands and thousands of dollars in weekly donations, walking the side walks in hopes of educating young women and preventing just one abortion, helping moms with baby items and medical care and with legal adoptions if that is what they choose of to stand on their own two feet with their babies if that’s what they want etc if we didn’t care about the children? Why wouldn’t we be all for killing them if we didn’t care–what an idiot thing to say and you and others who’ve been brainwashed say such stupid things all the time! It is almost beyond reality how really stupid some of you people are. No wonder you fall for the rhetoric about the “blob of cells” (that they never want you to see) being non-human or not feeling pain! They purposely hope you’ve been sufficiently dumbed down by the government schools and your IQ is lacking because of all the chemicals they’ve been dumping in your water supply–that way you’ll fall for anything to your own destruction as well as others.

          • Adam Knapp

            Here’s why I say that:

            The same people who say they want to get rid of abortion say “Defund planned parenthood!”- even though PP prevents more abortions than anyone by providing cheap/free contraceptives and family planning measures.

            The same people who want to get rid of abortion want to defund welfare and childcare programs, despite these programs being a vital safety net for millions of kids.

            The same people who want to get rid of abortion also want to send kids escaping violence, killing, and rape back to face these circumstances.

            If you don’t care about a fetus after it becomes an actual person, then you’re not really pro-life at all.

          • Janetfor4life

            You poor man.

          • Janetfor4life

            Question Adam: If it is mostly undifferentiated mass of cells, then pray tell how the folks that order the “fetal tissue” from Planned Parenthood can put in their order for “Brains, livers, spines, kidneys” etc.? No honey. It’s not just a blob of cells. It’s formed parts of a WHOLE growing baby.

            And, no…it is YOU who is blabbering with the rest of the pro-deathers with some crap about Pro-lifers not caring about actual children. That’s one of the first bullshyt lies you learn in the liberal PC handbook to use against Pro-lifers, and it’s wrong. Nothing new.

          • Jessica

            Actually if unwanted they are in no way a blessing. An unwanted child would do nothing but destroy my hopes and dreams for my life.

          • Janetfor4life

            Then again, please get your tubes tied. Better yet, get all of your junk snatched out.

          • Anna USF

            That’s a very low and inappropriate remark, I hope you don’t treat your child(ren) the way you treat other people on this post.

          • Janetfor4life

            No, not low. It’s honest. A GROWN woman who is responsible takes the time to protect herself fully. This Jessica is a self centered short sighted woman who doesn’t EVER need to have sex until she loses ALL of her reproductive organs. Snip. Tie. Burn. Hex. Bury.

          • Anna USF

            Wow, congrats, you graduated to the bullying troll of this forum! You are calling out a total stranger, does that make you feel good, boost your spirits?? Some people actually lift others’ up instead of putting them down to feel better, you might want to give that a try (like every other adult out there)!!

          • Janet Stintzcum

            No, Jessica….children ARE a blessing…..I know you want to be able to decide that, but it’s not your decision to make. As I said, what you do, you do….but there are consequences. Abortion, like any other sin, is pardonable. When a “heart of stone” becomes soft and realizes their sin—no matter what it is—and repent, they can be forgiven. God DOES love us.

          • Jessica

            Unwanted pregnancies and children are not a blessing. They destroy lives and hurt women.

          • Janetfor4life

            Gosh you are so lost Jessica. Destroy lives? Hurt women? What is wrong with you???

          • Jessica

            I speak the truth for my life.

          • Donna DeMartino

            Children are created by God, they are his precious gift . .

            Psalms Chapter 127
            3 Lo, children [are] an heritage of the LORD: [and] the fruit of the womb [is his] reward.

          • Trisha Holmeide

            Thank you, Nicholas, for the plain hard truth! No one in this country in this day and age has to live with the possibility of an unwanted pregnancy. If they are serious about not wanting children and want to be personally responsible there are things they can do that do not harm another living being. The fact that so many fail to act responsibly and are so thoughtless about the other lives they harm in their selfish pursuits says much about their moral character. Hopefully, Jessica will choose to act responsibly and have her tubes tied immediately if not sooner.

          • Adam Knapp

            You’re not here to help, you’re here to revel in giving others the “hard truth”, which is really just your people being assholes to women. You don’t care about children, or you would support funding aid and food for them.

          • Trisha Holmeide

            Sorry, you have no clue what I or other people who believe in the sanctity of life do to support and defend those who are in need of care, assistance, support etc. Don’t assume you know who is or isn’t “there” to help” nor that helping is the main issue–life is the issue, Adam. First, comes the right to life and then comes the needs of every life for assistance etc. But, girls like Jessica believe they have a right to terminate the life of the dhild of their own making just for their own convenience and are not even willing to do the responsible things like getting their tubes tied to prevent them from encountering an unwanted pregnancy where they would even think about killing another human being just for their own convenience! My Gosh! What buffoonery you people have fallen under and come to believe! Either you are extremely ignorant or extremely brainwashed to believe taking the life of that most innocent precious being of your own making is insignificant compared to your own needs and hedonistic desires. Either way your response to this issue does not bode well for the future of our society as more and more like yourself find no reason for anyone or anything to exist that may interfere with your pleasure. Orwellian to say the least.

          • Adam Knapp

            Nobody has the right to force one human to use their body to support another human. If my closest kin NEEDED my kidney to survive, I would not be required to give it to them even if it would cause me no long term harm. The same goes with pregnancy – the rights of the fetus or “biologically dependent” do not supersede the mother’s.

          • Trisha Holmeide

            And, no body forced the mother to engage in behaviors that culminated in a dependent human being being lodged in her womb in need of her protection and care for the gestational period of time necessary to become viable without her assistance or the use of her organs. So, perhaps there ought to be laws against creating dependent life only to destroy it for their own self-interested needs. After all-the baby didn’t ask to be conceived, to be stuck in the body of a woman who is so self-interested she has no intentions of continuing to keep and protect it until it can live on it’s own without her assistance–why is it the young woman has all the rights when the child was forced into the situation where because of her stupid choices it was brought into existence in the first place only to be torn to shreds and discarded as if a piece of crap merely because she decided she doesn’t want to accept responsibility for the life she has created? Wow–just like that “Survival of the fittest” argument. Guess cause the mom is bigger and badder she can get away with anything over the small and defenseless within her, right?Sounds like our society is going backward toward the jungle rather than becoming more civilized.

          • Janetfor4life

            Then someone needs to force birth control pills down those particular woman’s throats that are stupid enough to think of their child as a parasite. Or tie their legs together, better yet, superglue their vagina shut

          • Donna DeMartino

            Ha! “buffoonery!!!” My new favorite word . . Thanks Trisha!

          • Anna USF

            Would you like to care for the millions of children around the globe who need a parent? Unless you have adopted just one of them (save millions more for another day), then your point, unfortunately, has no merit.

          • Trisha Holmeide

            Anna–you have no idea what I have or haven’t done to help the “millions” anywhere (here or around the globe). And, you have no right to dictate what must or must not done to have warrant merit in their comments. Please stop acting like a miniature tyrant telling everyone what they have to do–it is getting quite annoying. Your excuse for murdering millions of innocent babies is that there are other babies in need around the globe? So, how is it we American’s are responsible for saving children around the globe but not in our own country? They are all the same before the Lord and the one’s facing the scalpel, poison, and dissection here are at imminent risk even more so than the starving children in Africa–so first things first–we are doing everything we can for all of God’s children!

          • Janet Stintzcum

            I belong to several pro-life associations….we do help. We counsel through the pregnancy, some of the young, alone girls are “adopted” by a family in the church and they support them through the pregnancy and delivery….and afterward, too, if they decide to keep their baby or not. We have counselors who help with adoptions….and open adoptions, if that’s what they want. They guide them to needed services. Some of these young ladies have been cared about—and some for the first time in their lives– We are not just wanting the government to “fund” anything, because they don’t always do a great job. We are not just throwing money into it, but time and a lot of love. It’s a whole lot easier to demand someone else do it.

          • Adam Knapp

            The government generally does a much better job than for-profit enterprises when it comes to providing necessary amenities to those who cannot otherwise afford it. One should not be forced to rely on charity in the most advanced country in the world.

          • Donna DeMartino

            that’s true, I absolutely agree with that Adam, that’s why we got to get out there and vote. I worry about young people that don’t vote, you need to have a say of what is going on in your world!

          • Open adoption is a joke. Many are closed upon finalization. Unless one has a very detailed contract, open adoption are non-enforceable.

          • Sprat

            That’s false information. Many people do open adoptions and you do not need a detailed contract, that’s why it’s called an open adoption. I speak from first hand knowledge of the process!

          • No it is not false. I head the largest adoptee civil rights organization in the US. I’ve been involved in adoption reform for 25 years. It is common knowledge that open adoptions are a carrot and stick scheme. Of course, not all are. That would be ridiculous, but the number of women who have been screwed out of their babies by “open adoption” promises is astounding. And no, in most states open adoption is not enforceable; that’s why the agreement has to be greaty detailed.

          • It is not false information. Open adoption is even open to definition. It can mean anything from a transfer of identifying information of parents to a bparent ending up part of the family. 28 states have some form of enforcement the rest don’t. Even then ,the enforcement doesn’t have many teeth. This link goes to the Chidlren’s Bureau Gateway. You may also want to read the work of Joan Hollinger, the grande dame of adoption law. https://www.childwelfare.gov/pubPDFs/cooperative.pdf#page=2&view=States%20with%20enforceable%20contact%20agreements

          • Donna DeMartino

            I will read this, thank you for sharing Marley!

          • Donna DeMartino

            I’ve never heard that before. Open adoption is open adoption . . you didn’t want to raise the child for whatever reason but still want to be a part of his / her life I think it’s a GREAT idea! Everything would be on your terms to negotiate with the adoptive parents and then a judge makes his / her ruling.

          • Janetfor4life

            So by all means, go ahead and execute the baby instead of giving the child a chance at a happy adoption/life.

          • Donna DeMartino

            Janet what a blessing to belong to pro-life associations and get these mothers some help throughout their pregnancy and beyond. We do serve a loving God and I can see your light shining brightly guiding these precious men and women to not murder their baby! I’m interested in finding pro-life associations in Ohio, you’ve given me inspiration now Janet! Thank you and may God continue to bless all that you do for his children!

          • Laura Martin

            BEING ASSHOLES TO WOMEN , TELL ME WHEN YOU HAVE SEX WITH THEM AND THEY GET PREGNANT ARE YOU WILLING TO SUPPORT THEM AND TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT COMES WITH THE PART OF THE THE SPERM DONOR, YOU ARE ALSO PART OF THE PROBLEM , FREE SEX NO COMMITMENT NO KIDS BUT THE FUN IS THERE

          • Anna USF

            Thank you, finally someone said it, it takes a man to conceive too!

          • Anna Marie Hawkins

            So let’s defund Planned Parenthood and use that money to feed the hungry!

          • Janetfor4life

            That makes too much sense Anna! <3

          • Janetfor4life

            You act like women are dumb floppy eared sheep. Women these days KNOW what causes pregnancy. And many choose NOT to be responsible and obtain birth control.
            And that silly comment about funding aide and food to children. That’s a typical liberal Pro-deather sentence. Bless your heart. You use that sentence like a gun to inflict harm, but nobody HERE is dumb enough to let you harm them because WE know that you have no clue what each of us has done to help the needy children. All you are doing is farting in the wind.

          • Anna USF

            What have you done to help just one of the millions of children who need help (that weren’t aborted) around the world by posting your opinions on this itty-bitty non-consequential site? You complain so much on this column – my gosh, put that energy into doing something, anything productive, and going outside and actually practicing what you preach. I honestly hope, if you have child(ren), that you are not sacrificing your time with them to pick fights with complete strangers, like myself, on this post. I’d much rather have you spend loving time with children – any children – than sacrifice it to argue with us each and every hour. Do the world a favor – log off and actually help those children in need, put all of your energy into actually helping people in the (you seem to like all caps) REAL world! I am going to log off and help people, and hope you all at some point, soon, consider helping children in the real world too.

          • Janetfor4life

            Typical assuming liberal. Do you know how idiotic you sound by assuming that all Pro-Life people do nothing for the born children. It really is kind of pathetic you are using something from the typical liberal handbook.

            How funny it is that you think you are putting me down for posting here at this “inconsequential website” BUT HERE YOU ARE DOING THE SAME THING. HAHA

            I have done my share with fostering and donating much time and money to organizations who help pregnant women who DON’T kill their unborn. Which is a lot more than you have ever done since all you do is sit in your parent’s basement eating cheetoes and surfing the internet. Whew! See how silly that sounds of me assuming you are living in your parent’s basement? LOL you silly rabbit my kids are grown.

          • Anna USF

            Do you ever get tired of posting rebuttals?? Do you ever leave your keyboard??? Turn your caps lock off, get away from the keyboard, and be a productive member of society! I am a nurse and an EMT, I save lives for a living and help people, but post my opinions here occasionally on women’s reproductive rights, what have you ever done outside of typing in ALL CAPS? You know what, don’t bother responding, you need a life outside of this forum, go help people for once in your menial mundane old lie, oops, life!

          • TaargusTaargus

            That was quite the run on sentence my man.

          • dwarf

            “If needed”? Really? You do realize that no one has ever really “needed” an abortion, right?

          • Jessica

            I disagree. If I ever have an unwanted pregnancy I will need an abortion.

          • dwarf

            That’s not a need, it’s a want.

          • Ashley Cope

            Well get your uterus Taken out then you wouldn’t have to worry about it that is the smart thing to do if you do not want children! Or get your husband fixed that is the best way then you can have sex all you want without worrying and having to get an abortion end of story! And if not then you are one evil selfish person!

          • Jessica

            An invasive and painful surgery is not better than using BC.

          • Trisha Holmeide

            Grow up Jessica and take responsibility for your own body instead of volunteering to tear your own child’s body apart so you don’t have to be a mommy!

          • Adam Knapp

            She is taking responsibility for her body. You’re just mad because she won’t let YOU govern it.

          • Trisha Holmeide

            Adam–I’m not mad at all about Jessica’s faulty logic or all the faulty logic in the world! I’m sad it exists and trying to help open avenues for girls like her to take that will not lead to future sad ramifications most of all for the life of the child or children she may take but also for her future conscience and well-being as sooner or later she is going to have to face the reality of her stand and what it really means because everyday science is proving that viability is only a matter of distance to an expert neonatal center and women who have abortions are killing their own real-life babies not just eliminating some tissue as they’ve been brainwashed into believing–and all these babies are being butchered by money hungry, morally bankrupt people who are as evil as those who sacrificed babies to Baal in biblical days!

          • Adam Knapp

            The vast majority of abortions happen before the fetus is recognizable as a fetus – a mass of cells that wouldn’t survive anywhere but as a sample in a laboratory.

            Again – I cannot bring myself to believe for even a second that this is actually about “saving” children. The beliefs I’ve seen espoused from the “Pro-Life” crowd have long showed disdain for any child already born who is not provided for.

          • Trisha Holmeide

            Wow,have you a decidedly humanistic view of those cells that would only be of use in a laboratory (like those PP assistants were fishing through on petri dishes no doubt recognizing the gonads, heart and thalamus eligible to sell! You seem to think because the first weeks and months of life the person doesn’t resemble what you recognize as a human that makes it not worthy of respect or not a human at all–so is that your view of the fetus all the way through gestation or the elderly person who shrivels with age and is hardly recognizable as his former self? You are coming across as a humanist who believes humans are gods of their own destiny and champions of their own fate–who can take control and make their lives be whatever they design no matter what society or individuals believe in or value–as long as you are bigger and stronger than someone else and can achieve what you want without formidable objection you can take what you will to do what you choose with your life! “Law of the Jungle” in full force and measure with no regard for those weaker or in the minority whose rights should be protected by the law of the land, but have been betrayed and given over to the will of the woman who bring them into existence to dispose of as they will! My, My! What a foolish premise that will turn around and bite the hand of those who swear by with when it comes their turn to be the ones society views as not valued and disposable too! I wonder if our founders intended our constitution to be so malleable and soft so as to allow the complete collapse of all our “inalienable” (God-given not man given) in order to affect a complete change in government giving no one any protection for their human rights?

          • Adam Knapp

            And if this were actually about preventing abortions, you’d help Planned Parenthood expand their contraceptive programs rather than shut them down when their services prevent more abortions than any pro-life group could ever hope to.

          • Trisha Holmeide

            Adam–why are you so vested in determining what I am really doing or really would do etc? Seems you are obsessed with making ventures and guesses when you have no facts to work with at all! Pray tell me why with your wonderful healthcare coverage provided by Obama et al., any girl/woman could not go to a legitimate medical provider and receive exactly what she needed to prevent becoming a mother? Why is it necessary to have a separate clinic provide such services? And, no despite Miss America’s stupidity and remarkes Planned Parenthood does NOT provide Mammograms either, so what you are referring to is a short list of birth control services that could as well be provided by a legitimate Dr. who could as well provide antibiotics and skin removal surgeries for all those bacterial infections and STD’s such people usually need too.

          • Janetfor4life

            Watch it Trisha, you are making too much sense.

          • Anna USF

            FYI, periods appear in sentences, not just on pads and tampons.

          • Trisha Holmeide

            True to the liberal policy of never arguing the facts but diverting and complaining about style (or anything else available), you have made your point. Now, if you have anything of interest to comment on I’m sure we’d like to hear it.

          • Anna USF

            Thanks for taking time out of your day to read and respond to my post! You just made my day!!

          • Anna USF

            You are right, people still think they can control others’ bodies, what a power trip!

          • Sounds like she’s taken a lot of responsibility. Now why don’t you breeders take some responsibility and stop saddling the rest of us with taxes to pay for your lifestyle choices?

          • Trisha Holmeide

            That’s pretty gutsy of you, Marley. I will wager I’ve put far more in the government coffers in the form of taxes than you! However, I, nor anyone in the pro-life camp that I know of is asking one dime from government nor from you or even the other women who may become pregnant and not want to keep their babies and I personally would like to educate you regarding the wonderful world of volunteerism and charity that does offer both sanctity and respect for moms who choose not to kill their young but need support in finding other ways to unload their obligation and still maintain their self-respect and dignity. You might want to try it someday–it does wonders for your soul not to always be expecting the government or someone else to pay for everything and just step up to the plate and help people because it’s the right thing to do!

          • Manda9

            So us breeders are all on government assistance and use YOUR tax money to raise our kids? That’s funny. I have 6 children so I guess I am what you are referring to as a “breeder” but I have never taken a handout in my life and I probably put more tax money in each year than you even make. Stop generalizing. You just sound dumb.

          • Janetfor4life

            I am pretty sure she was referring to free abortions. Not government assistance.

          • Jessica

            An embryo would not be my child.

          • Teresa Cobb Rye

            abortion is evasive and painful, for you and the child being ripped apart

          • Jessica

            Child birth is much more invasive than abortion. An early abortion with RU486 is non invasive and non painful.

          • RLP

            Abortion is invasive and painful as well.

          • Susan Collins

            Abortion is an out-patient procedure. It has FAR fewer risks than reproductive surgery and far fewer risks than pregnancy and childbirth.

            Bottom line, RLP – It’s NOT your decision.

          • Sarah ✈

            Where is the source for abortion having less risks than childbirth and pregnancy?

          • Not very.

          • Jessica

            Not if done early- it is much less painful than child birth or surgery.

          • Susan Collins

            That is major surgery with 6 weeks recovery time, and all the risks of major surgery. She doesn’t have to undergo these risks to satisfy YOU.

          • Trisha Holmeide

            Do yourself and your potential progeny a favor and get your tubes tied immediately so you do not have to undergo such a gruesome procedure to kill your own child or children.

          • Teresa Cobb Rye

            get your tubes tied

          • Anna USF

            Why is it on the woman? If the man doesn’t use a condom then he can have his balls tied off, there, equal birth control for both.

          • Janetfor4life

            Because it is ultimately up to the woman if she LETS the man stick it in. Unless she is raped.

          • Anna USF

            Let’s blame it all on the woman.

          • Janetfor4life

            Are women animals and can’t control their own actions? When a man comes around is it like she is a cat in heat and can’t help herself? NO. This is 2015. Women are not dummies, and they are not cats in heat. They should KNOW to prepare for sex ahead of time and provide their bodies with birth control! THIS IS OUR LIFE. OUR BODIES. RIGHT? Do these women just lose all sense of reason when a penis gets near? Yes, I blame the woman because women these days have NO excuse. Unless they are raped.

          • Jessica

            I am married and I know how to use BC. I just know it is not 100% and you are right THIS IS MY LIFE and I will not give it up for a pregnancy.

          • Janetfor4life

            Use a second form of BC: Condoms.

          • RLP

            You need it or are choosing it?

          • Jessica

            Both

          • Janet Stintzcum

            OK, Jessica, now you’ve done it….I’ll be praying for you!

          • Anna USF

            Okay, Janet, since you don’t seem to understand the concept of acceptance and tolerance, I’ll be praying for you too!

          • Janetfor4life

            What you truly need is to have your head examined. Also, a hysterectomy.

          • Elven King

            For once, an Elf and a Dwarf agree on something! Abortion is evil!

          • dwarf

            Well, Dwarves have a strong and fierce love for women and children. ;) And yes. Abortion is an abomination.

          • disqus_NSXp0ZCum6

            No you do not have a “right” to murder your child should YOU get YOURSELF pregnant! Legality does NOT equate morality (not that you care a bit about being moral)

          • Jessica

            If I get pregnant I have EVERY RIGHT to abort the unwanted embryo.

          • Lisa

            you are a selfish person to just discard a life so easily. You and people like you are what’s wrong with this world

          • Jessica

            No what i swrong with this world is anti-choicers thinking they can control women.

          • Janetfor4life

            PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GET YOUR TUBES TIED. ASAP.

          • Audra Beth Bates

            Thank you very much! Janne

          • Adam Knapp

            It’s not your job to tell people to “put their legs together”, and most kids that want to be adopted simply end up being passed from foster home to foster home, usually being sexually abused along the way.

          • Sprat

            Where are you getting this information?!?! Kids that want to be adopted adopted end up in foster homes…..?? Babies who are given up for adoption at birth go to loving families who have trouble conceiving. This supposed “unwanted baby” is an absolute blessing to families like that and to the baby who gets a chance at life!!

          • Janetfor4life

            Again…so it’s best to go ahead and execute the children instead of adoption, just in CASE they MAY have a less than perfect childhoods? Tell that to those of us who did NOT have perfect childhood that grew up to be happy, successful ADULTS.

          • Women are not incubators for dried up interfiles.Infertility is God gift. Not children. It’s people like you who continue to fight the restoration of the civil rights of adult adoptees.

          • Anna USF

            That is a very ignorant statement, keeping a child has nothing to do with “guts,” that is an irrelevant term. I have kept “my legs together” for all of my 29 years, but I would never, ever say that to another woman. I came close to being raped seven years ago, which is not “screwing around,” after a molestation and as a woman, a Christian woman who is a nurse at that, it is my right to have or to not have the child. Please keep your dismissive thoughts to yourself Janne.

          • Janetfor4life

            NObody, and I mean NOBODY should have the RIGHT to end the existence of anyone else, especially those that are INNOCENT.

          • Anna USF

            I see your point, I read your comment, but women have the right to decide what to do with their OWN bodies, to keep an innocent child or not to keep it, choices aren’t always right or wrong, this world is full of suffering for women and children. A choice is up to the individual so what one woman does (or doesn’t do) with herself is up to her and nobody, and I mean nobody has the right to tell her what/what not to do with her body.

          • Janetfor4life

            Then the police should just all quit and let this nation be a free for all. If we humans should not be told what to do with our bodies. But no. What’s right is right, and what’s wrong is wrong. It is downright shame women think it is RIGHT to butcher their own preborn child. Sick.

          • Anna USF

            Do you ever stop trolling? My gosh, you sound the police person of this post!

          • Donna DeMartino

            Very well spoken Janne . . I completely agree. If you’re married and don’t want kids Jessica, either you or him should get fixed . . that would be better than living with the guilt for the rest of your life for murdering your baby!

          • Audra Beth Bates

            God doesn’t punish ppl w children. He blesses them w children. You need to go to church and get back w God.

          • Jessica

            An unwanted child is a punishment. I want a child free life and having a child would destroy that life for me- since you know my life would not be child free anymore.

          • Audra Beth Bates

            How old are u and how long have u been married? Does ur hubby feel the same way you do?? That’s sad…

          • Jessica

            Yep my husband feels exactly the same way. If he didn’t we would be together.

          • Susan Collins

            That’s between her and her husband. It’s none of YOUR business.

          • Janetfor4life

            What you don’t get is that we are MAKING it our business. We are the voice of the voiceless.

          • dwarf

            My great-nephew was a punishment? That’s funny, because he helped my niece recover from her rape…

          • Jessica

            Every woman is different. Myself personally would never be able to recover from a rape having the reminder of the rape inside me for nine months and then around for the rest of my life.

          • dwarf

            The “reminder” could be given up for adoption, so it wouldn’t be for the rest of your life. It’s sad when young girls are stronger and braver that adult women.

          • Jessica

            So I would still have to live with the reminder inside me for nine months and I will not do that. Any woman who can get raped and survive is strong and brave. It’s sad when anti choicers bully a woman who decided to have an abortion after she was raped.

          • dwarf

            Nobody is bullying anyone. Or, at least, I am not. After being bullied myself for quite a number of years for stuttering English and a heavy accent, I don’t usually pick one anyone. Unless they ask for it. Like liberals and my younger sibling.

          • Adam Knapp

            You’re definitely bullying. You’re trying to force others to undergo serious medical complications to satisfy your bronze age superstitions.

          • dwarf

            Quote me, please. Show me how I am.

          • GM

            God would help you the baby is cutie pie with a daddy who did a very bad thing

          • Audra Beth Bates

            It’s def not the baby’s fault that’s for sure!!

          • Jessica

            If I was raped and got pregnant the only thing that would help me would be abortion.

          • Meredith B.

            How old are you??? Niave…

          • Jessica

            Nothing naive about knowing I wouldn’t want a rape pregnancy to continue.

          • Janetfor4life

            Stop executing unborn children for the sins of their fathers.

          • Jessica

            WOW…. So you really think a woman deserves to be punished for being raped. I just can not believe anyone can be that cruel to a woman who was raped.

            But I guess when you have anti-choice politicians calling a rape a blessing and saying a woman’s body can shut itself down I see where your thinking comes from.

          • Anna USF

            I am with you on this subject, have you noticed how quick people are to go on and on with the topic on here, spend hours with it, when they are sacrificing quality time with their own children and families? They are ignoring the cries of children, their own and others, when they spend hours, even days, trying to tell us what to do with our bodies. Do you also think they could be filling out adoption/foster paperwork instead of arguing with us? I don’t think the majority of commenters on here would be good parents after delving into their archaic thought processes, but the time they are taking away from children to write rebuttals, it is getting ridiculous. If they spent less time complaining about “how they are right and we are wrong” and put that energy into helping the children who do exist on this crying planet, we’d live in a much better world!

          • Janetfor4life

            I know several women who had raped babies. Some chose adoption. Some chose to keep their babies, because that automatic love I was speaking about in another post happens! Another thing. God can help in ALL situations. He can cleanse a raped woman heart and soul. If you have time, look up JUDA MYERS. She is my friend. She was a rape baby. Her mother was gang raped. Gave her up for adoption. She let a happy life, and sought out her mother. Learned about her conception. It’s remarkable. What you see as punishment others with help from God see the silver lining. That child is HALF yours. To hell with the other half.

          • Jessica

            Good for those women but you cannot force a woman to have a rape baby. That is beyond bruel to her to force her to live with a reminder of what happened.
            And the fact that you think there can ever be a silver lining a rape shows how twisted anti-choice thinking is.

          • Janetfor4life

            Rape can’t be “WASHED AWAY” because evil is spiritual. ONLY CHRIST can make you clean again. The silver lining is LOVE. Love conquers all.

          • Jessica

            Sweetie as a woman who was raped, I can tell you if I had been pregnant there is no way I would have ever let the rapist win and stayed pregnant. I would not have let him destroy my life a second time.

          • Anna USF

            So now you decide to be a Christian?

          • disqus_NSXp0ZCum6

            I wouldnt exactly call her a woman.

          • dwarf

            If she’s female and human, she’s a woman. Maybe not too intelligent or has been brainwashed, but a woman all the same.

          • disqus_NSXp0ZCum6

            Woman implies the person is grown up.

          • Susan Collins

            NOT your decision, dwarf.

            Your arguments are irrelevant. Women have the right to make their OWN choices. They don’t need your approval.

          • Stephen Russ

            Hey Susan, I’m 15 and this is what I know. Why do you think that just because that when a baby is born, it now then becomes a baby. My mom has been blessed with 10 kids! I have witnessed 6 of my moms pregnancies. Sure in the early stages of pregnancies a women may have weird symptoms. As the picture above shows that BABY at just 12 weeks is fully formed. It just needs time to form. This baby at just twelve weeks is HUMAN. Then at around 28 weeks I have witnessed from my mothers own pregnancies, The baby can kick, move around, or even punch at the mothers stomach. To see and witness something like this is truly amazing! To feel a living human inside my moms stomach kicking is awesome. Knowing that you don’t Ever want to have kids, please don’t get pregnant Jessica. I Beg you. Please Abortion is not the answer… Please

          • Adam Knapp

            Just because it’s roughly baby-shaped doesn’t mean it’s a baby yet.

          • Manda9

            I’ve felt my babies move inside of me at 12 weeks. It most certainly IS a baby. I would never tell another woman what to do with her body and just because it’s not a decision that I could ever choose to do, doesn’t mean anyone else who chooses abortion is a bad person…but it IS a baby even if you don’t believe that it is.

          • Stephen Russ

            You actually just admitted that it was a baby. You said and I quote, “roughly baby-shaped”. Roughly baby shaped is not a cluster of cells. Roughly baby shaped is alive, its human, and its living!

          • Janetfor4life

            Adam you are warped.

          • Janetfor4life

            Bless you Stephen Russ. Your parents raised a good kid who will be a fine adult.

          • Stephen Russ

            Thankyou! God Bless you too

          • dwarf

            Would it be my decision if my wife wanted an abortion, but I wanted my baby?

            No, they don’t, but the murder of an innocent child should not be legal. Oh, and if a woman gets pregnant, she already made she choice. ;)

          • dwarf
          • Donna DeMartino

            No Susan sadly that is true. Heck women could go get an abortion once a year of so, maybe more if needed! I just couldn’t live with myself if I murdered a child . .

          • Janetfor4life

            …women and their choices. Heavy sigh. It tells me a LOT about a specific woman IF one of her almighty choices is to butcher her OWN unborn child. It takes a monster to make that elective choice.

          • Anna USF

            “Butcher?” Really?? Please tell me English is your second language and you have a life outside of this chat-room! You remind me why I, and other educated people, don’t go to these places online.

          • Adam Knapp

            It’s really easy to dictate what others do with their bodies, isn’t it?

          • dwarf

            Except for the fact that the unborn child is not a woman’s body.

          • Susan Collins

            And that was her CHOICE. Operative word here – CHOICE.

            But for a woman who DOESN’T want it, it IS a punishment.

          • dwarf

            And not just she choice. Rape counts for about 5% of abortions done in America, most rape mother keep their babies or give them up for adoption. Also, many women have confessed that they just said they were raped to obtain an abortion easier.

          • GM

            Jessica I can understand you have dreams but please ask Jesus into your heart so you are not walking alone in this very evil and cursed world. The Lord God loves you

          • Donna DeMartino

            Amen!

          • Jessica

            I have no room for you god in my heart if that means I would have to give up my dreams of a child free life.

          • Trisha Holmeide

            Don’t worry, Jessica–God won’t put more on you than He knows you can handle But, He will give you opportunities to make good choices and grow until you are able to handle having and taking care of one of the special spirits He sends us to care for so I pray you will be prepared when and if the time comes to take on that responsibility rather than rejecting it and endangering your eternal soul in the process.

          • Susan Collins

            //God won’t put more on you than He knows you can handle//

            Oh, bullshit. That people are able to handle challenges has nothing to do with god. Someone can lose a whole family in a disaster, and then develop cancer, and could still cope.

            It’s actually pretty sick that you think your god “allows” people to experience terrible things and in fact “gives them” terrible things because he “knows they can handle it.”

            What a horrid mindset.

          • Trisha Holmeide

            Sorry you have such little capacity to grasp the concept of spiritual growth as a direct result of exercising faith and going through great challenges to be a better person as a result. I’m afraid you’ve got a rude awakening coming if you believe life is supposed to be a bowl of cherries and no one is supposed to ever suffer here–at least my faith gives millions something to hang on to while going through the reality of this mortal existence which is better than to assume some boogie man is out to get you when in fact often a person brings on their own sorrows!

          • Adam Knapp

            Oh, but killing your family brutally is just “god’s plan”

          • Adam Knapp

            Do you really, actually, truly believe there’s some magical spirit just doling out specific amounts of trouble or pleasure based on arcane rules laid down in the bronze age? Seriously. Think about this one. Then, think about Santa Claus. Finally, realize how stupid it sounds to anyone over the age of 8 who knows that fairy tales aren’t real.

          • Trisha Holmeide

            Oh, I see–another one willing to bet his soul on the “theory” of evolution that is far more difficult to prove than the reality of Intelligent design by a Divine creator! How infantile and sad can you get–at least enter the debate like a man instead of referring to idiocy, Adam–must have skipped a few Biology classes I’d say as you are no more willing to argue with facts than that arcane Santa clause you referred to!

          • Adam Knapp

            Infantile? Well, if you want to talk about childish delusions, I’m not the one believing in fairy tales from the Bronze Age. This “Theory” of evolution, which is a fact, has nothing to do with religion whether it be for or against the concept.

            As for Biology class, you probably shouldn’t be mentioning this in the same paragraph as your denial of a central tenet of the science. It kind of makes you look like an idiot.

          • Jessica

            If your god really loved me he would never ruin my life with a pregnancy and a child that I do not want.

          • disqus_NSXp0ZCum6

            Lets be real here, if YOU get YOURSELF knocked up, it is NOT some punishment from God! Irs because YOU got YOURSELF knocked up. And murdering that baby you created isnt going to “fix” that!

          • Susan Collins

            So, women shouldn’t have sex? Even married women? Are you REALLY telling a married woman who doesn’t want kids NOT to have sex?

            REALLY?

            The great majority of women WERE using birth control at the time of the pregnancy.

            It’s all about controlling women’s sexuality.

          • Manda9

            It has nothing to do with controlling women’s sexuality. Women can have all the sex they want but if they truly don’t want children, maybe they should get something done that is actually more effective than using birth control or using the rhythm method. If women TRULY want to take control of their own sexuality, it involves taking responsibility for what comes along with that. If they don’t want children, there are ways to prevent it. And saying that an abortion carries less risks than having your tubes ties is a complete lie. The risks of having an abortion are far greater than with having a tubal ligation. You can also reverse a tubal if you decide at some point that you do want children. I’m actually pro choice. I don’t believe that everyone has to do what I would personally do in my life (I could never have an abortion) and its not my place to judge someone who choose an abortion but some of these arguments are just ridiculous. It’s pretty simple. If you want to prevent pregnancy because you are completely against it and you know that if you were to get pregnant you’d just abort your baby, then you should take the steps to prevent it from happening. Adult activities require adult behaviors.

          • Janetfor4life

            VERY small majority of women. V-E-R-Y. And with that said, of the women who DID use birth control, the vast majority of THOSE women admitted that they did NOT use their birth control regularly or by exact instructions. That’s from Planned Parenthood’s own statistics.

          • Janetfor4life

            But you would still be the mother of a dead child.

          • Jessica

            No I would be a woman who was child free and had an abortion.

          • Janetfor4life

            You were pregnant. You would be the mother of that child dead or alive.

          • Jessica

            Nope… millions of “children” spontaneously abort ever year. A woman is not a mother of all those- an abortion is no different.

          • Janetfor4life

            Yes, she really is. If a child is conceived in the womb? That female is THEIR MOTHER! Even if she never knew the baby was there. CONCEPTION EQUALS LIFE.

          • Jessica

            No a sperm and egg do not join together and you automatically have poof insta baby. The beliefs of some people amaze me.

          • Adam Knapp

            Leave your fairy tales for storytime.

          • Adam Knapp

            Sure he does.

          • Audra Beth Bates

            I’m guessing you’re atheist.

          • Jessica

            So only atheists want to be child free?

          • Audra Beth Bates

            Obviously you don’t believe in God!!

          • TaargusTaargus

            Which one? There are thousands.

          • Susan Collins

            //Obviously you don’t believe in God!!//

            And YOUR personal belief cannot be forced on OTHER people.

            Lots of people choose to be childless,.
            Atheists are about 2% of the population. You think believers don’t have abortions?

            Belief in god has NOTHING to do with it.

          • Audra Beth Bates

            You’re a very cruel person to not want a little person to love that loves you back. You’ll regret it one day I hope! It’s a wonderful thing to be pregnant, give birth, raise a child and heartwarming to hear them call you Mom :-)

          • Jessica

            WOW… so now it is cruel for someone to want a child free life? I am sorry but you are so very wrong. It is cruel to bring an unwanted and unloved child into this world. I can promise you I will never regret it and for me being pregnant, giving birth, and raising a kid would not be wonderful.

          • BadWolf

            Wow. i’m so sorry that some of these people who call themselves “christians” are so incredibly judgmental and downright terrible. personally i would never abort. but as Christians, we cannot force our beliefs on others and we should absolutely never judge others for what they do. we are called by Jesus to love others as ourselves and that is clearly not what people like Audra are doing. calling you cruel for not wanting children?! are you kidding me? I didn’t want kids for a long time. I think its great that you know what you want and what you don’t want. I would never wish a child on someone who doesn’t want children! I ended up having one and I love him, but if I decided never to have one.. so what? I’m just as flabbergasted as you are Jessica at the complete ignorance and close minded comments you are receiving. I believe every unborn baby ends up in heaven. So as violent and cruel that i believe abortion is, I also am relieved to say I know they are in a better place. I dont condone abortion or agree with it, but I really cant tell someone they are horrible or condemned to hell or something for their choices. Its a discusting practice and I encourage you to really look into how these procedures are done and look at pictures of the aborted babies. If you were to accidentally become pregnant by you wonderful hubby (that was not sarcasm, i’m sure he’s a wonderful hubby :) ) then I would be scared for you to get an abortion. They are traumatizing to the mother. Its really sad how many women get abortions without being told the aftermath of what they will go through. Not only emotionally, but physically too! Once again, we see very differently, but I am still going to love you like anyone else and never hold fire and brimstone over your head because what I think you believe is wrong. We all have free will and its not my place. All I can do is tell you what I believe, listen to what you believe, have an intelligent conversation about it and then go our separate ways.

          • Jessica

            I really wish more people were like you. Even though we disagree you are still respectful of me.

          • lynette

            Murder is not just a Christian belief. I guess if I kill a two year old you wouldn’t think that I was wrong. Of course you would. There is no difference. A human is a human no matter how old. We will be judged one day for standing by and saying nothing. I don’t hate anyone who has had an abortion.

          • Susan Collins

            //. I guess if I kill a two year old you wouldn’t think that I was wrong//

            You’re comparing a two year old to a bunch of cells that have NO sentience? REALLY?

          • Stephen Russ

            I’m going to post this again to you Susan:

            Hey Jessica, I’m 15 and this is what I know. Why do you think that just because that when a baby is born, it now then becomes a baby. My mom has been blessed with 10 kids! I have witnessed 6 of my moms pregnancies. Sure in the early stages of pregnancies a women may have weird symptoms. As the picture above shows that BABY at just 12 weeks is fully formed. It just needs time to form. This baby at just twelve weeks is HUMAN. Then at around 28 weeks I have witnessed from my mothers own pregnancies, The baby can kick, move around, or even punch at the mothers stomach. To see and witness something like this is truly amazing! To feel a living human inside my moms stomach kicking is awesome. Knowing that you don’t Ever want to have kids, please don’t get pregnant Jessica. I Beg you. Please Abortion is not the answer… Please

          • Susan Collins

            / There is no difference//

            There is no difference between a two year old and a bunch of cells?

            If you were in a fertility lab and an emergency broke out, would you save a freezer with 100 zygotes – ready to be implanted, or would you save ONE 2 yr old? i.e. if you couldn’t do both

            Oh, you’ll try to come up with reasons why my argument is wrong. But the reality is that if you REALLY believe, they’re all equal, then you should save to 100. NOBODY would do that.

            They are NOT equal.

          • I heard this debated a few years ago with the anti-abort saying he’d save the zygotes because the live children already were born and had a life. That says it all.

          • Adam Knapp

            A 2 year old is conscious and alive. A fetus is a bunch of cells wholly dependent on the mother’s biology for life, and for the most part completely incapable of consciousness for the majority of its development.

            As for your Christianity, you might want to rethink your basis for this belief. God repeatedly shows he has no problem with killing small children, even for minor behavioral infractions.

          • Janetfor4life

            Yes Lynette. I know atheists that are Pro-Life. Even an idiot should know that abortion is beheading, disemboweling, and decapitation of a growing HUMAN baby in the womb.

          • disqus_NSXp0ZCum6

            Dear the only bitter hateful sick person here is YOU!

          • Susan Collins

            //They are traumatizing to the mother//

            Thank you for being non-judgmental, Bad Wolf.

            But you have been mislead.

            A massive American Psychological Association task force found:”among women who have a single, legal, first-trimester abortion of an unplanned pregnancy for nontherapeutic reasons, the relative risks of
            mental health problems are no greater than the risks among women who deliver an unplanned pregnancy.”

            Abortion trauma syndrome is a fabricated mental disorder conceived by anti-abortion activists to advance their cause; it is an attempt to make people think they care about the woman’s mental health. They don’t. It’s all a lie

            “http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/articles/%E2%80%9Cabortion-trauma-syndrome%E2%80%9D

          • Janetfor4life

            Badwolf Just for your information. Christians are allowed, by God to RIGHTEOUSLY JUDGE. However, God alone is the only one that can judge someone to heaven or hell.

            <<<(John 7:24) "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment"

            For more info: http://oldpaths.com/Archive/Davison/Roy/Allen/1940/judge.html

          • disqus_NSXp0ZCum6

            Be its different for distorted sick whack jobs.

          • Janetfor4life

            How do you know raising your OWN child would not be wonderful. What are you basing your pre-conceived notions on? Was your childhood horrible? I can assure you, I NEVER wanted a baby. NEVER, EVER in a million years. But at the age of 30, and unmarried I found myself pregnant. Abortion NEVER entered my mind. Guess what? When you have your own child laid into your arms? It’s instant LOVE. You don’t even know that kind of love till you meet your own child.

          • Jessica

            How would it be wonderful? I do not want kids. I cannot think of ONE think about kids that I would find enjoyable.
            My childhood was great, but that doesn’t mean I want kids.

            I would have to give up everything I have worked for and live a sad life.
            I can promise you I would not feel any love if they laid the child in my arms after I had to go through child birth and lost everything I cared about because of a pregnancy.

          • Janetfor4life

            You can not say what you would feel unless truly in that position. That love comes in a heartbeat. It is really bizarre. Sometimes losing one thing gains something better

          • Jessica

            I can tell you what I would feel. I know how I feel around kids. I know how I have felt with pregnancy scares. I know how I felt with ex boyfriends who wanted kids.

          • Janetfor4life

            I hated kids. The annoyed me. They bothered me. They got under my skin. They drooled. They pooped. But when it’s *YOUR* KID? It’s a totally different thing.

          • Jessica

            No I promise you there would be nothing different about it being my kid- expect I’d be stuck with it and would have no way to be happy and free again.

          • Susan Collins

            “You’re a very cruel person to not want a little person to love that loves you back”

            WHY would you want children born to people who DON’T WANT KIDS? That’s really sick.

          • Nicole

            Wow I’m pro choice too when it comes to some situations but you are a real ‘see you next Tuesday’

          • Jessica

            How? I think a woman should be able to have an abortion up until a point in any situation.

          • Margaret

            As i read all of this i find it real sad my baby girl was a unplanned and suprise pregnacy but i couldn’t bare to think of hurting her while pregnant did i want her no did i will like her no it took holding her for the first time to see the love she held for me and then ik ahe was my world my everything i couldnt imagine my life without her# proudmommy

          • Jessica

            Please understand that there is a massive difference in unplanned and unwanted. They are not even close to being the same thing.
            I personally could not imagine my life with a child. I do not think I would ever be happy again.

          • disqus_NSXp0ZCum6

            Your mind is reprobate. What can you not understand about abortion IS MURDER.

          • Adam Knapp

            The part where with “Murder” an actual person dies. A fetus is not a person.

          • Janetfor4life

            That is YOUR opinion. Many of us have a different opinion. An preborn FETUS is a HUMAN. It has human DNA. Human’s are PEOPLE. All humans are in a different STAGE of development. Pre-born. Born. Young. Middle aged. Elderly. Or…ASSHOLE, which happens to be in the stage you are in right now, Adam

          • Anna USF

            You are so clever with your wording! I bet you are a creative writer aren’t you? Keep the insults coming Nicole, just spell them out why don’t you?!

          • Rae

            Honestly abortion is murder. They’re other ways to “get rid” of an unwanted child and that would be adoption. Abortion shouldn’t be the answer unless that baby will Not survive or will kill the mother carrying it. Sex was created by god to reproduce. And is a miracle from god. Just becuz it is unwanted by you doesnt mean the innocent baby deserves to die. They’re many couples who cannot have children who would kill for being able to conceive.

          • Jessica

            Abortion is not murder.
            Adoption is a way to get rid of the unwanted child. It is not a way to get rid of an unwanted pregnancy.
            Sex is not there for me to become a baby factory. Pregnancy and babies are not a miracle when unwanted.
            Also these couples who can’t have children can adopt one of the kids already born waiting for a family. They shouldn’t expect me to breed one for them.

          • annoying miss

            hitler did everything legal,, and then he and his workers were charged with murder,,
            they can charge all women who had abortions with murder and sell them into slavery
            You Made it,,
            You take care of it,,OR give it to me or someone who can’t get pregnant,

          • Jessica

            Nope if I get pregnant I will abort it. Why would you want to force parenthood on someone who would hate the kid and view it as an unwanted burden?

          • disqus_NSXp0ZCum6

            The fact is that you are a murderer period. Either in action or in your heart. We will just pray that you get a clue while you have time.

          • Susan Collins

            Why don’t you go protest the U.S. military or something? Do you know how many ACTUAL, self-sustaining, sentient children died in Iraq and Afghanistan?

            This is an intensely personal decision for most women. And it’s NONE of your business. NONE.

            It’s between a woman and her conscience, and if there’s a god, between her and god. Is your god unable to make his own judgments? Why does he need you doing it? Is it possible that your god isn’t nearly as nasty as you?

          • Adam Knapp

            They won’t because they’re fucking hypocrites. Remember this is the same group of wonderful people which fought tooth and nail to get all of those child refugees trying to escape gangs to be shipped back where they’d be certainly murdered or raped. They don’t give a shit about children.

          • Exactly, Susan. But that’s a different. I guy who supported an all-out ban on all abortion in my state once told me during the Iraq war that “that’s different…. They’ll grow up to kill us so we have to kill them first.”

          • Susan Collins

            My mother wasn’t supposed to have any more kids. No, I was not planned (wanted). If she had had an abortion, I would have been none the wiser, as I would not exist. If abortion had been legal back then, it would have been HER choice. As it was, she spent months in the hospital with me. Would she have had an abortion? Don’t know.

            She loved the PERSON I became, not the clump of cells. And HER mother died in childbirth. I would NEVER ask another person to take those risks against her will.

            I can look at myself objectively. You can’t seem to.

          • chuck

            Abortion is murder!! What kind of sick depraved mind do you have? You sound like a real pos liberal,and murder is what an abortion is….Your mother must not have been anything like you,and i can bet she is not to proud of her little girl,and i know she wouldn’t be if she seen what you have said here….SICK MINDS,Wow.

          • Jessica

            Abortion is not murder. The embryo/fetus cannot survive outside the pregnant woman so it is her choice what she does with it.

          • Trisha Holmeide

            Where do you come up with this faulty logic of yours? If Abortion was not a successful procedure for murdering/killing the life within the mother it would not exist as a procedure–there is no other way to look at it than it is the murder of the life within the mother–it certainly isn’t done to have a small in vitro picnic, Jessica!

          • Audra Beth Bates

            Jessica needs to watch the abortion video!!

          • Janetfor4life

            Trisha! You said it all right there. The LEAST they could do is admit what it truly is!!!

          • disqus_NSXp0ZCum6

            Just because you keep repeating it, doesnt make it true. You sound more like you are trying to convince YOURSELF of all the garbage youre spouting! Because nobody else is buying your garbage.

          • Angeline Pullen

            No there is NEVER a need to abort. Never. Abortion is the direct distraction of the child in the womb and that is never a necessary procedur . Of the mother is in danger we must do everything to treat that mothers life even if it causes miscarriage. Bit abortion in itself is not necessary.

          • Susan Collins

            Angeline. You are simply lying. 3% of pregnancies are ectopic. There is no choice.

            Fetuses with no brain – about 1 in 5,000 babies BORN – most are not born, but aborted.

            Various lethal trisomies

            Yes – ABORTION IS NECESSARY.

            And this idea, well we’ll TREAT the mother? Hell no – if she wants an abortion, you don’t get to FORCE “treatment” on her.

            It’s NOT your decision.

          • Susan Collins

            //Abortion shouldn’t be the answer unless that baby will Not survive or will kill the mother carrying it.//

            How do you predict that in advance? YOU CAN’T.

            No woman should be forced to risk major medical problems and possibly death against her will.

            Also, when a woman gets an abortion, you have NO idea WHY. It could be an ectopic pregnancy (3% of all pregnancies). It could be a severe birth defect incompatible with life. YOU DON’T KNOW. So, when a woman walks through those doors, just mind your own business.

          • Adam Knapp

            Abortion isn’t murder any more than having a cyst removed is murder.

          • Jeff Esker

            My friend was raped and still gave birth to her son. She loves him dearly even though her son was conceived by rape. She says he is a blessing. :-)

          • Susan Collins

            And that was her CHOICE.

            You don’t get to force other women to do so.

          • Jessica

            Good for your friend- she was able to make her own choice. However that choice should never be forced onto anyone and not everyone can view rape as a blessing.

          • disqus_NSXp0ZCum6

            Youre a pretty pathetic state of existence. All anyone can do is pray for you, because obviously your heart (and head) are both far too hardened to get a darn thing through to your sick brain.

          • RLP

            You’re extremely self-centered. Ask the thousands of women who have been brave and selfless enough to place their baby for adoption if their pregnancy wasn’t a blessing, albeit painful.

          • Adam Knapp

            Why does their opinion matter? It doesn’t. You’re self-centered for trying to force your religion onto women.

          • Care to discuss the thousands of women who were forced and coerced into putting their babies up for adoption? I can introduce you to them and they will beat your ass silly. Who do you think created the anti-adoption movement in the US today. Birthmothers? .And then there is ‘ always Australia. where adoption was used as a form of cultural genocide on native people and as punishment for white women.

          • Jessica

            If they saw their pregnancy as such a blessing why didn’t they keep the kid?

            Sorry but unwanted pregnancy is not a blessing.

          • Janetfor4life

            Jessica is too big of a scary cat pansy ass, and as you said self centered to think of anything or anyone but her self. She would probably faint at the sight of a pimple on her pretty face, or the first stretch mark on her ass.

          • Anna USF

            Troll much?

          • Janetfor4life

            Right back at ya: YOU TROLL MUCH? You must be retarded.

          • Anna USF

            Keep the digs coming, I hope you are not a Christian or profess to be one with the hateful words you are using on here, you want to be the “voice of the voice-less” yet you are using shameful speech to shutdown those who don’t agree with you. I am a registered nurse and I have never encountered someone as vile as yourself, patient or otherwise. I hope God forgives US all (like those CAPS) for the language and criticisms used in this forum.

          • Anna USF

            How many children have you adopted? 1? 2? None??

          • Janet Stintzcum

            ..not “my” God, Jessica…..God. You can’t decide that He exists only if you believe it. You have the free will to live the way you want, but there are consequences.

          • Adam Knapp

            Your god doesn’t exist. He’s nothing more than the product of badly translated stories from goat herders in the bronze age who didn’t know where the sun went at night. Meanwhile, we live in a modern country whose government is not at all based on mythology.

          • Webster

            Can I ask a simple question? If u know for a fact that u do not want children. Why not have female parts removed completely so that u never have to endure what u see as a curse??

          • Jessica

            Because I am under 30 and doctors refuse for fear I will change my mind. It angers me. I have even told them I will abort if my birth control fails.

          • Raymond Fee

            Then keep your legs closed or consider adoption. Just because you have poor life choices doesn’t mean that you have the right to take the life of an innocent person.

          • Jessica

            Not giving up sex for life with my husband and adoption doesn’t take away the problem of the unwanted pregnancy.

          • Anna USF

            Another police man of this forum, yes sir, just tell us women how to live our lives!

          • E2fox

            Jessica – then get your tubes tied.

          • Janetfor4life

            You are your kind are what is wrong with this world

          • Jessica

            No anti-choicers are what is wrong with this world. Mind your own business and worry about your own life.

          • Janetfor4life

            No ma’am. I am the voice for the voiceless that lay safe and comfy in their 9 month cocoon who are not asked if they want to be torn limb from limb.

          • Jessica

            Their voice comes from the pregnant woman- not you.

          • Janetfor4life

            No ma’am. I AM THEIR VOICE. Against aggressive detestable pre-born baby killers.

          • Jessica

            No you are the voice against the pregnant woman which is very very sad.

          • Anna USF

            I really hope Janetfor4life doesn’t work in the human services field, my gosh, I wouldn’t want her interacting with anybody!

          • Anna USF

            Get a life JanetWho! We are done with your “aggressive detestable” views on this forum!! Is Jessica you? No. Is she your daughter? No. Is her unborn baby yours? No. Get my point? Probably not with your “retarded … kind.” Go out and help mothers and babies in the actual real world if you feel that is your calling, leave this forum, but I hope, when/if you preach, you do so in a Godly manner and in a much more diplomatic fashion than you are doing so here (without all of the name-calling and digs). You insult people, and since you didn’t learn in school or in life, that doesn’t change peoples’ hearts, it just makes them, us, resent you and your OPINIONS (CAPS just for you)!!

          • Anna USF

            “Your kind?” So you’re not a human being too?? Well that kind of makes sense!

          • Janetfor4life

            You can NOT make that statement. You can not speak for all women. At the age of 30, a single woman, I had an unwanted pregnancy and my son was the greatest blessing of my life. Life is what you make it.

          • Jessica

            I can speak for myself and I understand that an unwanted pregnancy would never be a blessing.

          • Janetfor4life

            You can *say* that’s how you feel right now. You can say you probably will feel that way if pregnant, however, you never know until you are in that position.

          • Jessica

            Think what you want, but I know myself and my life better than an anti-choicer ever could.

          • GM

            Jessica, Please stop speaking what the devil says is true. He is a liar and hates you and is telling you bad things. Jesus loves you Dear Jessica and has wonderful plans for you

          • Trisha Holmeide

            It is so so sad you so stubbornly insist on your thinking. I will pray you never do conceive or have to go through the gruesome procedure of an abortion and live with the knowledge of taking the life of your own child.

          • Jessica

            I hope I never conceive as well. At least we can agree on one thing.

            Although I promise you I wouldn’t have a problem living with myself after an abortion.

          • Janet Stintzcum

            A child is not something that you can decide if it’s allowed to live or die. If you do, you will have to answer to a higher court than the “Supreme Court”. “Thou shalt not murder”.

          • Michael T. Warrell

            So sad

          • Janetfor4life

            And one day you will be looking upon the face of God, and there are no human words descriptive ENOUGH that will describe how uncomfortable it will be for you.

          • Anna USF

            It will be uncomfortable for us all. We have all gone at it on this forum. (I am sure God will love it for one of us to define the words – “retarded,” “your kind,” “butcher,” etc. Where they Jessica’s words? No, they weren’t, they were yours, a sin is a sin is a sin. We’ll all be waiting in line up there.)

          • Adam Knapp

            Why do you hope that? What will that prove, other than that you’re a vindictive asshole who wishes harm and trouble on others?

          • Audra Beth Bates

            I’m not vindictive asshole and I don’t wish harm or trouble in others. I’m a mom w 3 children here and 2 in heaven. I’m married and my children are wonderful!! Jessica needs to look deep inside herself and get back to God. Children are a blessing!!

          • Adam Knapp

            What a wonderful god you’ve got, killing two out of five. Do think this horror was his “plan”? Why would a merciful god put a mother through the most horrible thing they could experience not once but twice? Your god is just as much a terror now as he is in the old testament.

            If I believed in him, I would declare him the enemy and stop at nothing to destroy him before he hurt anyone else.

          • Audra Beth Bates

            I had a miscarriage at 3mo preggo and it was twins. I wanted the pregnancy and I was devastated when I lost them. But God has a plan for everyone!! He blessed me w my 3rd boy a year later :-) I still wonder sometimes what life would have been w a set of twins and I have always wanted twins!!

          • E2fox

            Adam – Interesting you’re named after the first man. He was against God too for a time. Since none of us are God, none of us know why God does what He does. Perhaps some day we will. I pray that you come to know God before the Judgment Day. Peace be with you.

          • Jackie Buzzell Riekkola

            God is not doing anything! We are!. When we choose to have unplanned pregnancies and we have abortions it is not God. When women get in to that situation and feel trapped they need to be helped and encouraged to do the right thing. Not lied to. Planned Parenthood lies and gives them the easy way out. Then because women and men don’t face the full consequences t&ey go out and do it again. But when they learn the truth they are horrified and live with unforgiveness of self and shame. ADOPTION is hard but the other options are torment depression shame.Look at the PTSD of people in the battle field killing an enemy now imagine PTSD from killing an innocent life.

          • Donna DeMartino

            I’m really sorry that you feel that way Adam, and just want you to know that God gave us and the angels free will. It makes some people feel that they can do whatever they want, however they want, whenever they want, with whomever they want, BUT, just know that EVERY knee shall bow, either now or after it’s to late! When satan was thrown out of heaven 1 /3 of the angels went with him to be demons . . it’s all about choices!
            Philippians Chapter 2
            10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of [things] in heaven, and [things] in earth, and [things] under the earth;
            11 And [that] every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ [is] Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

          • Janetfor4life

            God does not cause miscarriage, you silly rabbit.

          • Susan Collins

            “I hope one day u end up pregnant and I also hope that abortion will be illegal!!”

            So, basically, you hope she will get pregnant, when she doesn’t want a kid? What kind of wish is that? Is pregnancy a “punishment” for having an attitude you don’t like? Wow.

          • Trisha Holmeide

            You do know it is the terminating of the “life” that was growing within you, correct? Just wondering how brainwashed our schools have made our young people today–if it was not a human life growing within a girls body there would be no reason to worry about the outcome as the girl would be free to give away all the puppies she delivered and only out a few weeks of her time!

          • well, since sex education is banned in most schools….

          • Trisha Holmeide

            What’s that got to do with the price of tea in China? My generation never got anything more than health education and we managed to be pretty responsible with our sexual behaviors and certainly didn’t go around killing our off-spring when we got pregnant with them unexepectedly! Sex education doesn’t each a person how to be morally responsible,treat all living things with respect and only focuses on the logistics–how has that helped anyone avoid becoming a victim of irresponsible and immoral behaviors?

          • I am probably older than you. My high school class (’63) decreased about 2/3 by the time we got to graduation. Many of the girls got pregnant and quit school. Some got married, some didn’t. I knew one guy who was married and had 3 kids when he graduated. And believe me, there were plenty of back alley abortions. Others used quinine. I knew one girl who repeatedly threw herself down the stairs–but it didn’t work.

          • Teresa Cobb Rye

            it is murder, you kill something that is alive

          • Meredith B.

            Pos

          • RLP

            Sure is, honey pie. It’s a human being with its own DNA and blood type. Science 101. Ending the life of another innocent human is murder, no matter the size or location. Go swallow another birth control pill.

          • Sprat

            What is abortion if it’s not murder? I’m confused. A fetus has a heartbeat around 6 weeks (typically before you even know you are pregnant). And they Do Feel Pain when aborted!!! They are either ripped apart or burned with saline solution! Just nasty!!
            According to the Pro choice action network “there is no direct scientific evidence that late-term fetuses feel pain, but we can infer they do based on indirect observations that newborn premature babies appear to feel pain.” Also, many women go through Post-abortion syndrome and if you are not familiar with it I suggest you do some research. If you have never had an abortion or know someone close to you who has, then you may not understand how psychologically damaging this can be to a woman.

          • Jessica

            A fetus can’t feel pain until after 20 weeks. Most abortions happen before 12 weeks.

          • Sprat

            There is no evidence of that. I encourage you to look up “The Scream” and you might just change your mind. But with all the replies I see from you I don’t 100% believe you are a real person but possibly a troll. If I’m wrong I’m sorry but am beginning to think it’s the latter…there are a lot out there so you just never know…otherwise someone like you wouldn’t be on a pro life site due to your total pro choice stance it just doesn’t make any sense :/

          • Jessica

            I’ve seen silent scream. I’ve also seen the proof that it is a fake video. I honestly don’t understand how you people can hate women so much. I guess I come here to try to understand that

          • Sprat

            Lol hate women?! I think most people are here to support women, I don’t see how you can possibly see it that way…look I gave a baby up for adoption and it was the best decision I ever made. I don’t get how some people won’t even consider it, especially before they are ever even put into that situation. Why don’t you keep an open mind and if you were ever put into that situation at least think about all your options and not just one. I don’t think that’s too much to ask…

          • Jessica

            How can you claim to support women? You want to punish women with unwanted pregnancies. Good for you that you had the chance to choose for you. Why do you want to take that away from other women? If I’m pregnant I’ll abort- it is that simple. I’ve seen what pregnancy can do and I know what it would do to me and I’m not going through that.

          • Sprat

            Punish? Oh boy. Well I hope you never get pregnant, for the babies sake and your own……not sure if anyone ever told you this, but abortions can be dangerous for the mother, much more dangerous than a pregnancy. See the difference is a pregnancy is natural and an abortion isn’t. That makes sense to you right?

          • Jessica

            Abortion is much safer than child birth. Why would you lie to women about that?

          • Sprat

            Oh and My choice had nothing to do with me, it Only had to do with the innocent baby growing inside me. If it were all about me, I very well could have made a selfish decision. But I think selflessness is the difference between me and people like you.

          • Jessica

            So you are basically saying your life meant nothing to you and your health and happiness meant nothing. Abortion is it selfish. It is about a woman taking care of herself.

          • Anna USF

            Selfish, really? Your assumption is very selfish in thought.

          • Sprat

            Assumption?? I am not assuming anything. Abortion is selfish. Your comment makes no sense….

          • Laura Martin

            YES IT IS YOU ARE STOPPING A BEATING HEART, BY YOUR CHOICE , WHY DOESNT THE CHILD HAVE A CHOICE , I HATE ABORTION BUT I WILL SAY TO BAD YOUR MOTHER DIDNT ABORT YOU, SHE GAVE YOU THE CHANCE AT LIFE AND YOU DECIDE TO DESTROY A LIFE ,

          • Jessica

            THE “CHILD” GETS A CHOICE WHEN IT IS BORN AND CAN THINK AND FEEL. UNTIL IT IS BORN THE WOMAN MAKES THE CHOICES ABOUT IT.

          • Janetfor4life

            Abortion is the most detestable form of murder. Murder of a pre-born human being at it’s most innocent time of it’s life.

          • Jessica

            No abortion is s woman putting her life and health first

          • Janetfor4life

            You really believe that. Here’s some info: The female body was MADE/CREATED for childbirth. Childbirth is a healthy state for many women. To just ASSUME you will have an unhealthy pregnancy is asinine

          • Jessica

            Just because I am female does not mean it is my job to pop out kids and I know my body and life enough to know my pregnancy would be unhealthy and abortion would be the way out.

          • Janetfor4life

            Agreed. You do not have to have babies. Therefore, use your brain, and get your tubes tied. Sorry dear, you can say the doctor won’t do tie them, but you can find one who would, if you set your mind to it. This is a big country. Big world. In the mean time, use 2 or more forms of BC

          • TonyofTroy

            Don’t want kids ever?! Then be a “liberated lady” for once in your life, Jessica and stop allowing “prince charming” to use your body as a sex appliance.

          • Jessica

            My husband doesn’t use my body for sex anymore than I use his. I would never allow him to touch me and disrespect me and have sex with me if he wanted kids

          • TonyofTroy

            Then either I’m an 18-year old Chinese girl in a red dress or you [and your girly husband] need professional help. You’re both disrespecting life itself if your only alternative to an “accident”, is killing your own flesh and blood. Abortion, besides being the most heinous form of bullying, is also the greatest form of self-loathing. Peace.

          • Jessica

            Well I guess you are an 18 year old Chinese girl… Nothing about wanting to be child free makes someone need professional help. I’d need professional help if I thought my life had so little worth that I had to give it up for an unwanted pregnancy

          • TonyofTroy

            Typical liberal, responding to everything but the relevant point. Read my post more carefully, Dear. I was being very specific. I said if you’re willing to kill your own flesh and blood to remain child free, you need help. If you and your husband have agreed in advance that if “junior happens”, you’d give her up for adoption, I’m totally with you. Still don’t agree with you, but fully respect your desire to remain childless in a way that doesn’t kill your own baby should an unexpected pregnancy occur. Hope I was more plain this time. Peace.

          • Jessica

            I am willing to abort an embryo to stay child free. I do not consider an embryo my own flesh and blood.
            Why would I choose adoption? It is the pregnancy and child birth I want to avoid and unless you find a way for adoption to stop that then adoption isn’t an option.

            BTW there is a HUGE difference in unexpected and unwanted.

          • TonyofTroy

            Well then, I appreciate your candor, Jessica. FYI, an embryo’s heart begins beating starting from the 18th day after conception. An embryo’s heart is pumping blood through a closed circulatory system beginning with day 21. That tiny child is certainly your and your dear husband’s flesh and blood in every possible sense. You can believe otherwise all you like, but just as believing the world is flat, takes nothing away from its spherical geometry, neither does believing an embryo isn’t your flesh and blood, change the contrary fact. All I can say at this point, is may the God you obviously don’t believe in, have mercy on you and your husband, should you ever take such a turn.

            BTW, there is ZERO difference between abortion and murder.

            Peace.

          • Anna USF

            God have mercy on us all, this forum has seen its fair share of low blows, all of us in it, including your assumption that she doesn’t believe in God, not very God-like of you.

          • TonyofTroy

            On the contrary, Anna. It was totally God-like of me. Anyone who is set on destroying their own progeny should an unexpected pregnancy occur, is by any standard, Godless. The fact she didn’t deny it notwithstanding, if she actually believes in God, she will be doubly accountable. Your judgmental attitude typifies the “church of today” and you have a LOT of nerve taking me to task for it. Even by today’s standards, your arrogance is stunning.
            Go ahead and have your sanctimonious last word now. It’s the only quarter I give to fools.

          • Jessica

            And it makes my husband girly because he wants to be child free? Not sure where that idea comes from

          • TonyofTroy

            Again, only a sissy would be willing to kill his own son or daughter to “spare” his wife nine months of carrying HIS baby as well. Again, I take back that remark if your husband would support you in giving up your unwanted child for adoption. Am I making sense? Wasn’t trying to disparage your dear husband out of hand. If raising children is your issue, I respectfully disagree, but understand nonetheless. If CARRYING a child is the issue, to the point that your husband would be complicit in murdering his parent’s grandchild, well, calling such a man “girly” is being way too kind.

          • Jessica

            Only an egotistic self absorbed man would try to force his wife to carry a pregnancy against her will.
            I do not want to be pregnant, give birth, OR raise a child. It is all three. Adoption solves the problem with raising it, but does nothing for the problem of not wanting to be pregnant.

            You call pro-choice man girly… well that is much nicer than my words for an anti-choice man.

          • TonyofTroy

            Only an egotistic, self absorbed man would marry under such circumstances. Your selfishness defies description. I would consider any denigration from you OR your girly husband a supreme compliment. I’ll let you have the last word. It’s the only quarter I give to fools, whom I don’t suffer gladly.

          • lois

            murder is murder

          • Anna USF

            ignorance is ignorance

          • GM

            Dear Jessica, I’m not sure why you are so very angry. But I truly pray you will realize that abortion is killing a little baby. And yes
            Being a good mommy is hard work and a sacrifice. Life can be unexpected but we must, must ,must do the right thing. You know in your heart that it is the right thing to not kill a baby.

          • Jessica

            The right thing is to live my life child free so I can actually make something of my life.

          • Trisha Holmeide

            Wrong–Jessica. Yours is faulty logic. Just because we believe abortion is morally reprehensible and a sin doesn’t mean we hate women. In fact, it doesn’t even mean we hate the people who have sold their souls to participate in that gruesome procedure of convenience for you and others. What it means is we love life–all life and believe it is sacred to be handled with respect and care rather than terminated and ended for convenience or by some man-made reason or cause rather than by God for His own reasons. It also means when you are aged and no longer a value to the state or your family we will be there protesting when your family wants to have you eliminated for their convenience because they no longer want you to be in the way.

          • Jessica

            You do not love life. You love fetuses and men and pregnant women. You do not value the life of women who want to be child free.

          • disqus_NSXp0ZCum6

            If you are for abortion you hate womrn. Get it straight and quit teisting facts to support murder!

          • Jessica

            No actually if you are for abortion you love women and want women to be able to do things in life besides have kids.

          • Marbella Pizano

            Nobody can change your mind. It seems like abortions will not come to an end. It’s still murder.

          • Marbella Pizano

            Abortion… Abort a situation ? Avoid giving an unborn human who does not have control of his/her own life.
            You (human) can have control but no the baby doesn’t even have a chance to decide do I live or do I die?

            Human rights violated

            How can people see abortions as something normal, always occurring, like getting a haircut (getting rid of unwanted hair)

            But I’m just saying… ?

            Freedom of speech ??

          • Janet Stintzcum

            Abortion is murder. When you take the life of another, you commit murder.

          • Erica Armagost Micek

            That is pathetic. Someone should die so you can go out and fornicate? Grow up.

          • Jessica

            No one dies in an abortion.

          • Sprat

            There are other options; plenty of couples out there who cannot conceive would be eternally grateful for the chance to be a mom or dad. Abortion is selfish!

          • Jessica

            So I should give up my life so another couple can be “eternally grateful”- yeah I think I will pass on that.

          • Sprat

            How would you be giving up your life?? Please explain….

          • Jessica

            I’d lose my job, my health would be endanger, I wouldn’t be happy- mental health is very important

          • gratefulmouse

            its wrong….its evil….it discriminates ….against the babies..

          • Jessica

            It’s because we love women that we speak against this evil being committed against them. 3500 little men and women are being killed every day in our country. It is tragic!

          • Jessica

            Not allowing a woman to have an abortion is an evil against women.

          • SA

            “If it is needed” … interesting. What would the need be? I need not to be pregnant so I can continue to live my selfish existence. I don’t want the inconvenience of pregnancy because I do not have the time to be pregnant. I understand “accidents happen ” why not bless someone else with a baby to love. Or better up stand up and raise your own. There are many government funded groups and communities that can help. Maybe you don’t want to take time away from your busy life to be pregnant. As woman I understand. I believe in birth control and that awesome morning after pill you can get at the pharmacy for $30

          • Jessica

            I need to not be pregnant so I can be happy and healthy and have a good job.

            Why should I bless someone else with a baby at the cost of my own existence?

            I also use BC but taking the morning after pill every time I had sex would be pointless.

          • Donna DeMartino

            If you’re for abortion you do hate babies! I hope and pray for your sake you never have to murder an unborn baby with a heartbeat and then live with that selfish decision for the rest of your life!

          • Janetfor4life

            I do. I see what needs changed. If you are having sex? You need to use 2 forms of birth control so you won’t be having an unwanted pregnancy and subsequently murder your pre-born child.

          • TonyofTroy

            We don’t hate women. We hate the killing of babies. Surely even a “loving liberal” can see that.

          • GM

            A baby is a human being and should not be killed because a mom doesn’t want him .

          • Donna DeMartino

            Amen to that Jan!

          • Lorenda McClung Rackley

            If telling you my opinion is judging you then you must have done something wrong.

          • prolifemama

            @Ronnie – The phrase you use means that human beings do not have
            the authority to condemn others. We are indeed to judge others’ actions, as well as our own, against God’s laws for our lives.
            There is no hate in Martha Benton’s comment – by their very actions, abortionists flout God’s will, and throw into the trash His precious and unrepeatable creations.

          • Trisha Holmeide

            Ronnie–that’s odd you mention all the hate on this post–where–from who? Just what is being said that you are interpreting as “hate?” Sorrow for the women who fall for the PP agenda and participate either as providers or victims–is that hate? sorrow for those who have sold their souls for pieces of eight? Is that hate? sorrow for those who have become so spiritually dead they cannot see or feel the truth right before their eyes? Would it be any more compassionate to pretend–as many people do–this grotesque business is not leading souls to hell, that people do not need to stop and repent of killing innocent life? To be truly pro-life we have to be willing to do the hard work of condemnation for a barbaric and evil practice and call those who participate into repentance–otherwise we are complicit by our silence and no amount of soft-peddling is going to change that fact. Can you honestly say you would stand silent before Hitler and “judge not lest Ye Be judged” too? Same evil spirit and practice of eliminating human beings and doing medical experiments on the living–so you would not judge them either?

          • Teresa Cobb Rye

            judge not lest ye be judged is not in the bible in the context you are using it. God tells us to discern, (judge), that is how you know if a situation is good or bad. you make no sense….. this passage in Matthew is not forbidding judgment but hypocrisy

          • goprenzlergo

            No one has a right to end a life… And abortion ENDS A LIFE… The mother of the child relinquishes her “right to choose” once she has conceived a child… Her life is no more valuable than the life she has created… The “sad state of the world” spoken of in this comment is the unprotected sex that occurs… Resulting in unwanted pregnancies… There is ample birth control available to prevent pregnancy… That’s the choice… A pregnancy that is prematurely terminated by choice leaves the woman vulnerable to devastating health consequences later in life… YOU CAN’T FOOL MOTHER NATURE !

          • Karen McGivney

            look up Numbers 34:33 and 34

          • Jessica

            Ronnie, read the rest of that verse. You are taking it out of context. That verse isn’t saying not to judge ever, only to be careful when judging because God doesn’t want us to judge hypocritically and we will answer to Him if we are. He DOES tell us to judge when something is a sin. We are still to love and show compassion, but we are certainly supposed to point out sin.

          • Donna DeMartino

            You know Ronnie . . you just may be maybe on to something there! Maybe, just maybe if we all started to act more civilized and respectful in our conversations, it might help to show compassion for the woman / and or man that wants to kill their unborn child and consider other options like keeping it, or giving it up for adoption. Great comment Ronnie . . we should all stop to smell the roses and say “Hello!”

          • TonyofTroy

            Martha’s not judging anybody, Ronnie. Murderers already have been judged. You, like so many anti-Christian liberals love taking the Book out of context so let me appeal to your “liberal sensibilities”: You’re against bullying, right? Tell me then, what’s a more heinous form of bullying, than going inside the most sacrosanct part of a woman’s body and destroying the baby therein. Peace.

      • disqus_NSXp0ZCum6

        No because they make a living MURDERING HUMAN BABIES they are stupid (not to mention sick and twisted).

        • Janne Thiebaud

          Can you even imagine what sort of people do “work” like that? Go to work, earn money killing babies? How on earth do they ever sleep at night?

      • Digitalfive

        No, their hearts are dark. You can’t say Hitler (for lack of a better argument) did things different because what he did was pure evil. If the abortionists eyes were opened they’d know just how evil their job is and they would vomit at the sight of their actions. Then they would turn from their wicked ways and start fighting along with us pro-lifers.

        “This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.” -John 3:19

        • Sasha

          Errr….actually if only Hitler’s mom had considered abortion ….. :)

      • Christina Byrum

        I believe it is a combination of greed & evil for an abortionist (who is a Dr so they have a medical degree) to lie to woman and say their child is just a clump of cells.
        Stupid is someone like the college student who would rather stay ignorant on a situation than do the research to get their facts straight . Refusing to believe something doesnt make it untrue or go away…..

      • Angeline Pullen

        What is most depraved and disgusting about these comments are those of you judging someone who is clearly ill informed of the truth about abortion. I am pro life to the core and my generation WILL see the end of abortion however it is not our job to judge and condemn or tell someone to keep their legs closed.
        The best way to tackle this issue is to find out why they believe what they believe. Jessica clearly believes in bodily autonomy and I’m not sure but sounds like she thinks a fetus is not a life but just a “pregnancy”. There fore calling someone like that a selfish murderer does not compute. You need to tackle the subject with logic.
        I have a FB group dedicated to this problem. Search for it. Its called Abolish Abortion. You will get awesome tips on how to debate pro- choicers convincingly with respect.
        Let’s Abolish Abortion together!

        • Angeline Pullen

          And I do not hate women. I consider myself a pro life feminist and am proud to be a woman. That logic makes no sense since half of pro lifers are women.

      • disqus_NSXp0ZCum6

        No because they cannot see the humanity they murder dail, theyre stupid.

      • TaargusTaargus

        So true.

      • Mary

        Stupid comes when you get an abortion when all you had to do was use birth control. Hello

      • gratefulmouse

        murder is murder….a life is precious….some people chose right and some wrong….abortion is wrong…its a sin…one has to know right from wrong….and one can chose to kill someone…because its a different choice doesn’t make it right….

      • Laura Martin

        WHEN THEY TAKE A BEATING HEART AND DESTROY IT INSTEAD OF CONTINUING THE BIRTH AND LETTING SOMEONE ELSE HAVE THE JOY OF HAVING A CHILD, YES THEY ARE STUPID SELF CENTERED NON CARING MURDERERS, AND YES I USE THAT WORD THE SAME AS ANYONE TAKING THE LIFE OF A BABY.

      • Raymond Fee

        No one said that you tard. But if you support killing innocent babies I’d have to say that’s pretty stupid.

      • Donna DeMartino

        No it’s because some people still choose to murder unborn babies! How could you look at that fully formed baby at 12 weeks and still want to kill it . . something I will never understand ever!

      • Janetfor4life

        They are stupid because they can not see that snuffing out their OWN flesh and blood offspring is idiotic. That’s why.

    • Deanna Shepherd Rhodes

      I don’t think BusyMommyof3 is calling anyone stupid, she is just stating that even her 2 yr old could obviously SEE that that is a BABY! Not a clump of cells or tissue as abortionists like to call them

  • RooforLife

    Abortion supporters say this is fake. I disagree with the abortion supporters check out a MRI of a 9 week fetus http://bit.ly/bC76Hj see lungs, ribs, from the Endowment of Human Development . EHD has a awesome DVD “The Biology of Prenatal Development” which I think is the best window into the womb DVD.
    The DVD features rare imagery of the living human embryo and fetus, while growing inside the womb. Produced in conjunction with and endorsed by human development experts, it combines facts gleaned from the medical literature with images produced from six different imaging technologies.

    • Karen Sciance

      While this might be a “fake”, this is pretty much what a baby would look like at this stage, although the body would be “floppy” because there are no bones yet. I know, because I miscarried at 15 weeks and chose induced labor over an abortion. I expected a “clump of cells” in the form of a clot. I was shocked to see a little doll instead.

      • disqus_NSXp0ZCum6

        What makes you say this is fake? Would you like to say that to this woman’s face?
        I’m very sorry for your loss but don’t discredit or demean someone else’s loss because your experience differed.
        And they don’t need hardened bone to not be “floppy”, just cartilage which they definitely have.

        • Karen Sciance

          No, they do NOT have cartilage at this point. In my post, I said that I experienced a miscarriage at 15 weeks, and chose induction over D&C. I saw the baby; he had NO bones formed as of yet. THIS is a model. A very, very perfect model of what the baby would look like, except outside the womb he would not hold that form. We called him our “baby jellyfish”.

          Don’t discredit or demean MY loss. I regret that we did not get a photo; I did not know at first that the hospital would be willing to do that. It was extremely painful for me to see this at first, even though it has been sixteen years since our loss.

          Would I say it to the woman’s face? Yes. If she told me that this was the actual baby, I would ask her how the photographer was able to get such a picture, because when I finally asked the nurse for a photo they were unable to position the baby in any way to make it look like a baby. Not to be mean about it, but to marvel at the skill of the photographer.

          I know that there are people who have pictures taken, but the hospitals usually have to wrap the baby in a tiny blanket to help it keep its form. Our baby had already been sent to the necropsy lab and placed in the solution; he had swelled up with so much fluid he no longer had any resemblance to a tiny human.

          • As

            Read a text book and get back to us. You’re clearly very uninformed. The fact that your experience was different doesn’t discredit this woman’s or “prove” anything and you have some serious audacity to suggest that you somehow set the standard for miscarriage experience!!
            Yes some babies get crushed in the process and due to their small size are unrecognizable, but certainly not all. Again I’m very sorry you lost a baby, but educate yourself before you run your mouth.

          • Karen Sciance

            Sorry; I stand by my statements. When you see a REAL baby outside the womb, then you can tell me I am wrong. This picture, although it is an EXACT copy of what the fetus would look like, is a plastic/lucite/artificial doll.

          • disqus_NSXp0ZCum6

            Actually if you are going to make claims that this is not real then the burden of proof is ON YOU! So far all you’ve done is blow smoke out of your a$$ without providing any source or facts whatsoever. So that is called your OPINION which believe it or not princess is no more valuable then the billions of other people on the planet. Come down here off your high horse with the rest of us because to be honest you just aren’t AS special as you think.

          • jiraffe

            What the heck is your problem? How insensitive can you get?

            Also, I agree the baby isn’t real. For all your shouting. There are no blood vessels visible, the arm would not be suspended in a thumb sucking position, and the leg would not be suspended up.

          • prolifemama

            @jiraffe: The fact that blood vessels aren’t visible in Noah’s arms and legs is probably due to the fact that since he is dead, his blood no longer circulates, so is no longer visible. At 12 weeks, Noah is weighing in at only a few ounces, which is the reason his arms and legs can hang suspended, as if he himself were still suspended in his amniotic fluid.

          • prolifemama

            @Guest – Noah did indeed have bones, which began to forming his 7th week, five weeks before he died, the first ones being his collarbone and jaw.

            I think you’d enjoy the Endowment for Human Development
            website, which features real-time ultrasound videos of developing babies from 6 weeks until birth. There is also a prenatal timeline, listing all body systems and when they begin forming and functioning.

            At 7-8 weeks, according to EHD’s timeline: “Day by day, the embryo’s bones grow. The ribs now have CARTILAGE (emphasis mine) and the shafts of the long bones (in the arms and legs) begin to harden. The joints of the embryo already resemble adult joints in structure, with the elbows and the knees apparent. Formation of wrist ligaments begins.”

            And EHD goes on to say that “By 15 weeks (your little one’s) stem cells arrive and multiply in the bone marrow. Most blood cell formation will eventually occur here.”

            Guest, one reason for your own baby not resembling a real
            baby, is the speed with which the tissues begin to disintegrate after death. I’m also wondering if induced labor to deliver a 15-weeker wouldn’t cause disfiguring trauma to the baby’s body.

        • Lorenda McClung Rackley

          Babies are born with soft bones so that the birth doesn’t harm them. If babies had solid bones like us then the birth would damage both mother n child.

      • prolifemama

        @Guest – Noah did indeed have bones, which began to forming his 7th week, five weeks before he died, the first ones being his collarbone and jaw.

        I think you’d enjoy the Endowment for Human Development website, which features real-time ultrasound videos of developing babies from 6 weeks until birth. There is also a prenatal timeline, listing all body systems and when they begin forming and functioning.

        At 7-8 weeks, according to EHD’s timeline: “Day by day, the embryo’s bones grow. The ribs now have cartilage and the shafts of the long bones (in the arms and legs) begin to harden. The joints of the embryo already resemble adult joints in structure, with the elbows and the knees apparent. Formation of wrist ligaments begins “

  • Sandra Dudley

    A human being is the most totally awesome of all creation because we alone are created in the image and likeness of Almighty God. We are so awesome in fact that even the angels are in awe of us. Like God we have an intellect and a free will. Our intellect gives us the unique ability to contemplate our own existence. We can ask the most profound of questions, like why am I here? what is the purpose of my existence? where am I going? Our free will gives us the unique ability to choose between good and evil, right and wrong. Each human being is so precious to God that if he died on the cross just to save only one of us, he would have still done it. Each one of us is completely unique and unrepeatable. You, my friend are so awesome! Because we are so precious, no one should be aborted. It isn’t her body that she is having aborted!

  • naomi

    it cant be possible 4 a child 2 4m at 12 weeks

    • kroz

      Tell Noah!

    • prolifemama

      naomi, why would you doubt what you’re seeing with your own eyes?

      But let’s look at a baby at an even earlier point in his life – a few hours after fertilization. Again, check out EHD – awesome website! – and see how you yourself looked at 2 days, 5 days after your dad’s sperm fertilized your mom’s ovum. To say that this doesn’t look like a baby is silly – this looks EXACTLY like a baby – like you looked – at that stage of his development.

      • PJ4

        Because it goes against every single piece of propaganda she’s bee fed
        She can’t wrap her head around reality or grammar

        • prolifemama

          She needs our prayers.

        • tom721

          Be kind. She’s asking the right questions. Be there for her, please.

    • MamaBear

      Actually, that picture matches exactly what you see on a 12 week ultrasound, what you see in informational material for expectant mothers (both printed and online). At 5 weeks, there is a heartbeat, at 8 weeks, there are brainwaves.

      • tom721

        Try 21 days on the heart beat.

        • MamaBear

          There are two ways of counting (no idea why), from conception or from last missed period. 21 days (3 weeks) is from conception, 5 weeks is from last missed period.

          • Basset_Hound

            My guess is, that it’s really hard to determine which particular sex act results in conception unless a woman has a one-night stand after being abstinent for more than a month.

    • PJ4

      4m?
      What are you trying to say with that?

      • MamaBear

        It teen texting shortcuts. 4m is four+m, instead of writing out form.
        Some students actually try to use it in assignments.

        • PJ4

          Omg
          Atrocious

        • Jed

          Schools desperately need to start expelling idiots. Maybe a couple of years of menial labor will improve their attitude.

    • Jessica Provencher

      it absolutly does …. im a mom of 4 ,,,thats what what 12 weeks looks like :)

    • CailynAlexis

      I’m eighteen and even I didn’t know what the hell 4m meant. XD People are so lazy anymore. And yes, Naomi, it IS possible for a child to FORM at twelve weeks. It forms, grows, and develops throughout the entire pregnancy. This is what it looks like at the end of the first trimester.

    • disqus_NSXp0ZCum6

      What?!?

    • disqus_NSXp0ZCum6

      And read a text book before opening your mouth. You sound like a fool.

      • tom721

        And you, discus, will never make it as a teacher. Can’t you see, this young lady is on the fence? Pull her over, don’t push her away.

        • As

          No she’s not. Get a clue.

    • tom721

      Naomi, I think there’s hope for you. Your mind is still open.

    • Lilian

      Not sure what to tell you. This is what a human fetus looks like after a few months.

  • Carolyn Teague

    R.I.P. little man!!!

  • wright2665

    One must hypothesize why a party is so totally in favor of abortion, the Democratic party, that they demonize those women who choose to give birth. The feminists among them, the pro choicers, march and carry signs stating that pro lifers attack a woman’s basic reproductive rights. There is only one absolute truth here. The miracle of creation of a new life is just that, a miracle. The great urge a man and a woman feel for each other is to insure such a miracle. To think of the over 60 million children we have murdered since Roe V. Wade we must consider that Hitler murdered 6 million Jews during WW11. We are approaching the total death toll for all of WW11 with this out of control “murder” industry in this nation. To anyone who belongs to that party, the Democratic party, you should just thank your luck stars that you were even born. How many brothers, sisters, parents of children who will never be born have we lost in this mass slaughter? How many Einsteins? How many composers, scientists, athletes, heroes, actors/actresses, philanthropists will never grace this planet? Truly, this country is damned because we continue to murder the most innocent in God’s eye. I hope and pray that those millions of murdered unborn children are kept safe by our creator. I guess the mothers and fathers who sentenced these unborn to a “brutal” and barbaric death, far more cruel than ISIS beheading victims, will answer for their decision when their lives run their course. After all, no one is immortal and all must answer for their actions on this planet.

    • ThatGirl

      If unborn babies are indeed innocent, wouldn’t they just go to heaven? Sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me.

      btw
      Every living creature can reproduce. Some more “miraculously” than humans.

      • disqus_NSXp0ZCum6

        You’re logic is severely distorted and frankly disgusting

      • Sunny Georgia

        Yes, ThatGirl, unborn babies that die DO go directly to Heaven. But you’ll have to ask GOD about the ones who willingly murder them. They would have to truly REPENT and go to Him for forgiveness! (How many will DO that?) (And “sweet deal” or not, only GOD, the CREATOR, has the right to decide WHEN! — He has a purpose for us!)

  • Debra Silviano

    He is beautiful, and in heaven, he will be completely grown and waiting for you….God bless and strengthen you as you move forward in life!

  • Nicole Kaminsky

    I too lost my son to miscarriage at 13 weeks but he was measuring 11 weeks. I have a very similar picture of my son. I miscarried at home and we were very blessed to see him. I was in awe of how tiny but yet still so deveoped he was. I never believed in abortion but it was a confirmation of everything I ever believed. God’s design of how the human developa is absolutely incredible!! God Bless you for sharing!

  • mommyto3gr8ones

    How anyone can consider that a clump of cells is just beyond me. Beautiful pic! ;)

    • elcer

      Mommyto3, you know they don’t really consider him a clump of cells. They lie to themselves and to young women who come to them for “counciling.”

      • mommyto3gr8ones

        Well, some may believe that lie but they gotta be lying to themselves if that’s true because you can clearly tell that is a human being.

  • courtney carson

    Why would you doubt what you’re seeing with your own eyes?’ This is the internet people, you can’t believe everything. You can do a quick Google image search and this image is everywhere. Pro lifers….sigh…. (Also why tag this as ‘abortion at 12 weeks’ when this was supposed to be about a miscarriage? Pro lifers get more annoying day by day it seems)

    • Paul

      “Pro lifers get more annoying day by day it seems”

      You say that like it is a bad thing.

    • PJ4

      Feeling is quite mutual I assure you

    • Nordog6561

      >>Pro lifers get more annoying day by day it seems<<

      Oh, I hope so.

    • MamaBear

      Where did you get abortion? It is tagged miscarriage.

      • courtney carson

        It literally says “abortion at 12 weeks”

        • MamaBear

          The title of the article is

          “Stunning photo of Noah, miscarried at 12 weeks, will amaze you”
          There are links to related articles

          • prolifemama

            Unfortunately, though, when I clicked on the “abortion at 12 weeks” tag, it immediately took me to the article about Noah.

            Somebody goofed somewhere. Hopefully they’ll get it corrected.

        • tom721

          Figure it out. This is what our offspring look like at 12 weeks, whether we kill them at that point, or whether they die on their own. Why is this so difficult? It’s basic human biology, including life and death.

    • disqus_NSXp0ZCum6

      Yeah it’s annoying when you know you’re wrong but you’ve made too much of an ass of yourself to change your mind now.

    • tom721

      I think the point was, here is the ‘product of conception’at 12 weeks. Yes, it is dead. But this is what it looks like. Can it still be denied that what we have here is a tiny human, in every detail? Or would you prefer to see him singing and dancing?

  • Basset_Hound

    I think this condition was the reason why Stevie Wonder is blind.

  • Deb Nyberg

    Life begins when the Lord breathes Life into the baby born.

    • tom721

      The Lord starts the heart beating at 21 days.

    • As

      Way to lie to yourself.
      Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations.” Jeremiah 1:5

  • Donna Montanarella

    I lost 3 of my six babies. I had one baby that died in utero at 14wks gestation 27 years ago. I still cry about that little baby that I love so much and never got to know. I do believe that I will be joined with my 3 lost babies after this life. My heart breaks for this mom and everyone who loses a baby. Noah is beautiful! Life is such a miracle and should be appreciated, cherished and respected at all ages! I hope that people seeing the picture of Noah gain an understanding and appreciation for the lives of precious preborn babies.

  • john

    Prolife propaganda

    • tom721

      Au contraire, john. Biological facts.

      • john

        A 12 week old “fetus” is a lot smaller and, if it was miscarried, it would be in a bunch of bloody pieces. Cheq ur fax , sun.

        • mrp

          You check your facts, son. You sound extremely uneducated. Google is your friend. At 12 weeks, a fetus is about 2 inches from “Crown to rump” (doesn’t even include his legs). That’s about the length of a lime. Look at your hand and look at how much space in a 2+ inch object would take up. The size of the baby in the picture (whether it is real or not) is entirely accurate.

          And I’m not sure why you think that a miscarried baby would be in “bloody pieces.” I know many women who have had miscarriages and their babies came out whole. Maybe you’re thinking of an abortion where they are chopped into pieces with a curette.

        • Rebecca Herbert-Mariano

          No john – a miscarried infant can be completely intact. The uterus doesn’t go through a spin cycle to stop a birth naturally.

        • Lilian

          Hm. I’ve seen miscarriage of intact fetuses. Got footprints.

          It is certainly possible for miscarried fetuses to be passed in pieces, but they can be and are also delivered intact. It just depends.

      • john

        Dude if it was real, it would be smaller and have been in a mess of other bloody parts.

  • Prettylady!

    Worth a thousand words…

  • Prettylady!

    Its the beginning of the end of abortion. I don’t think it will be repealed totally, but we will be moving there. Women will have to start rethinking relationships with men. Sex will stop being erroneously thought of as recreational, and it will move toward being what it really is: for the creation of a family!

    • Some of us don’t want families. The root of all oppression.

  • Prettylady!

    The abortionist then goes through the contents of the container, piecing the tiny person back together to ensure all of his or her body parts are accounted for.

    We must also consider the “doctors” that do this. They are not the cream of the cream. These are the rejects, the desperate, the losers. They need prayers too, but you can’t do this for too long before you become a drug addict or suicidal!

    Can you image coming home from a day of abortions, and trying to answer, “How was your day, Honey?”

  • Karen Sciance

    I lost my baby at 15 weeks. His little body and limbs were not this solid. While this is exactly what a baby would look like at 13 weeks or so, this is not the actual baby.

  • Mary Foster

    God bless you for posting your beautiful baby’s picture.. he will save many babies from abortion.

  • Carol

    Does that look like a “clump of cells” or a “blob of tissue” to you?

  • Pam Kinder

    Baby Noah .so adorable I’m so glad his mom held him and shared his perfectly formed body.Thank you.

  • disqus_NSXp0ZCum6

    Any preemie will already be screened and treated if necessary in the hospital.

    • tom721

      Where, in the U.S? An internet user in a ‘3rd world’ country might find this discussion useful.

      • As

        Because people without any access to medical care are going to have Internet access?!

  • giant33

    The pro lifers are out numbering the choice crowd due to abortions. Sooner then later we’ll get that ridiculous ruling overturned.

  • siren1873

    Thank you to the family for sharing.

  • Mys77

    Life is created, grows in thw womb, and no one has the right to murder that child.

  • jregan5641

    Any one that takes an innocent life is something other than smart or maybe they are no better than hitler. Any one that takes a child’s life is a murderer and condemned to hell if they do not repent for it and ask God for forgiveness. This is one thing that bothers me more than any thing I know. And then walk and say it is birth control an asprin between the knees is birth control not this not killing the results. Babies do not deserve to die like that all torn apart don’t you know they feel pain.

  • posercom

    Pro-life people should make plastic figures that represent fetuses at every stage of life that they are recognizable as a tiny person. To combat all the Godless indoctrination todays children have to face, these plastic figurines could be given as baby dolls, to be loved and protected by young children. God loving people haven’t been nearly as aggressive in teaching children the value of human life as the Satanic left has been in beating the humanity out of our children. It’s time to take off the gloves. This picture of Noah would not frighten a child because they instinctively recognize him as a child just like themselves.

  • pixie43

    How dark is our world becoming but The LIGHT of Jesus will shine through – Thankyou Father in Heaven for being Sovereign, for ALWAYS forgiving us when we stray, for LOVING US completely, utterly, unconditionally. In Jesus Mighty Name, we Pray. Amen

  • Cindy Chapman

    When I was in school back in the late 70s n early 80s, the school had the life mobile visit the school. Class by class, we all walked thru it n saw ultrasound pictures as well as pictures of aborted babies. Very eye opening n left a lasting impression. They should bring back the life mobile to all high schools so teenagers at the sexual age can See up close n personal the pictures these babies n the consequences of their decisions.

  • Edie Van Maanen

    Thank you so much Lara for sharing your beautiful baby Noah’s picture! ! Such an inspiration for those who are thinking of abortion and also those who are not!! God bless you! !

  • Rebecca Herbert-Mariano

    I HAD an abortion when I was 19 years old and married – to a physically abusive man. I could only see the future for my unborn child being just as bleak and painful as it was for me, and I would not let that happen. After the abortion, I was told that ‘something’ may have gone wrong, and I may never be able to have children.
    Long story short, 17 years later, I gave birth to beautiful twin sons, who are now grown into wonderful young men. I guess the ‘god’ who frowns on abortions knew the reasons in my heart, and knew that my intentions were good, even if PEOPLE are quick to judge. A bible quote comes to my mind here – “Judge not lest ye be judged.”

  • JohnandTracy Nelson Madlena

    We also lost a Noah. He was a 13 week pre born tiny little human. He was amazing.

  • Pearly

    How can you tell at 12 weeks the gender of a fetus?

  • Barbara

    My one and only pregnancy ended at 12 weeks. That is exactly what our baby looked like on the ultrasound. I had to have it surgically removed. I was very upset because I wanted to see this baby even though I knew it was not going to be alive. The doctor had the nerve to tell me that I would not be able to see it because it would not all come out in one piece. I know I will see that baby some day. I saw a heart beat at 6 weeks. For those who believe life does not begin at conception……they may need to rethink their view.

  • Mary Hoefler

    Thank you Lara for sharing Noah’s photo. You are so brave considering your loss. Noah’s life will have so much purpose changing the hearts of many women who may be thinking about abortion. God bless you !

  • Natasha McIntosh

    I had a miscarriage 4 months ago it was the hardest thing I ever been through. I was 14 weeks pregnant. My pregnancy wasn’t plan but I love my baby more than anything in this world. I would gave anything to have kept this pregnancy full term. But God knows best. Children are a blessing from God.

  • Pamela Carothers

    Yes there got finger at 12 weeks. What is wrong with this FUCKING world. May GOD HELP YOU who kill there babys

  • annoying miss

    Why don’t they show Ultra sound video on youtube????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  • annoying miss

    i seen mine at 9 weeks and it was the most amazing video that i have ever seen,,,,, they demand that mothers see ultrasound before abortion,, who is stopping the general public from seeing it,,????????????

  • Christine O’reilly

    I wouldn’t have an abortion myself, but I would need that option, I have 3kids, 2 of them is special needs I feel blessed by God for them, but I have being diagnosed with mental illness, I’m on a lot of meds but besides the meds issues I’m 33 yrs old I’m not sure I can meet the needs of another child as for the moral issues for me I believe God forgives I trust him

  • Sara

    Just a “clump of cells” according to some… it’s so obvious that this is a human being

  • Womanoftruth

    Hes so sweet. I pray someone thinking about getting an abortion sees and reads this. 14 years ago I was uneducated on this subject. I had an abortion because I didn’t realize the full impact of what I was doing. Anyone who says this is an option is WRONG. The guilt and sadness never goes away, you have to live with this choice for the rest of your life. Aborting a unplanned pregnancy isn’t an answer that erases a problem. There is always Hope. God will bless you and that baby wheather you decide give it up for adoption or raise him or her on your own. All life matters, babies are not tissue they are as human as you and I , and have just as much as a right to live as we do.

  • Nuong Nguyen

    My baby was 2 months. I got
    Miscarriage. My son was 5 months when he died. Two babies has died????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  • disqus_pmVdE0IE3P

    So sad. Having lost a babe at 13 weeks, it is a very tough road. I always knew my baby was not a “clump of cells”.

  • Citrina Sherrer

    Jessica esure look it up non invasive non surgical sterilization. …I had it done after I was through having my wonderful children. It’s not painful some mild cramping for a couple days. Go in one day go back to work the day after. Simple and easy don’t want kids that’s fine but be an adult and fix the issue you seem to have end of discussion|debate over no more drama…done.

  • Sarah Hopping

    If you don’t want to be pregnant take a pill birth control don’t kill a baby with a heartbeat because to me that’s murder point blank. Or just don’t spread your legs.

  • Adam Knapp

    I’ve seen the kinds of people you all support. You don’t give a wet slap about children once they’re born, you’re just trying to score political points. If you cared even a little about children, then why are you the first to support those who cut resources to children, or send groups of them back to be raped and murdered in their own countries?

  • Jeanie

    I love this story and I’m so sorry for your loss. about three years ago when I found out that I was pregnant it was a unplanned and unwanted pregnancy, mostly because I wasn’t married and I was afraid of the disappointment I was going to bring upon my family and I was disappointed in myself. it wasn’t until I spoke with my family, friends, and our priest that I came to see my pregnancy not as a curse but as some new plan that God had for me. my family in turn didn’t disown me or my daughter instead they showed me more love than I have ever seen. the church didn’t kick me out instead the priest offered support and offered the option of adoption if I thought that is what I wanted. I chose to keep my daughter and my daughter in turn she saved my life, she showed me how to love someone more than i love myself and she taught me how to love myself again. my daughter is my hero. not one person that loved us offered the option of abortion because of the harm it would bring not only onto my daughter but also to myself. now I’m not saying I didn’t know that it was out there I’m just saying that I couldn’t do it. so to any new mother out there please don’t look at pregnancy as a curse but as a new fantastic journey that God has designed for you, maybe he intends your child to save your life the way my daughter saved mine. my daughter will be 2 years old this December and being a Mother to her has been the greatest thing I’ve ever done.

  • Laurence Coventry

    Sorry Jessica but you are on a learning curve. We do not need an abortion act (UK) or Roe v Wade (US) for doctors to save a mother’s life even where this may result in the death of the child. 4 doctors in UK have filed abortion forms for saving the mother’s life in 10 years while 2m abortions took place in UK.
    The child is not a bunch of cells. Down to 7 weeks he or she shrinks from the insertion of a needle just like an adult, although this does not apply to the umbilical cord. The whole of the science of embryology proclaims it is a new human being from conception. It governs the whole development process in the womb and from ten weeks only has to grow. All organs are then operative except the lungs, which are not needed till birth.
    Law said that slaves were 3/5 human (US). Law said that Jews were sub human (Germany).Law now says that pre born people are not persons, so they can be boiled in salt for days, ripped apart, have their skulls crushed or be poisoned. Only a person can donate organs, whether for research or organ donation, so this Law is as big a lie in the teeth of science as the other two mentioned.
    The Chambers Twentieth Century Dictionary defines murder as the illegal killing of another: excessive and reprehensible killing not legally murder. This definition fits abortion perfectly.
    Pro choice always means choice to kill someone else. Poverty and violence affect many, but their future possibility is not an excuse for murder. It is only the already born who favour abortion, as seen in the struggles of the victims .
    My body, my choice is a parrot cry for sovereignty of the body. However the baby is not your body, having its own DNA and blood circulation, possibly of a different group. A woman may not drive above the speed limit the wrong way up the highway. She may not take certain classes of drugs, including thalidomide, prescribed in the sixties for morning sickness. It produces children without arms or legs. Are these limbs more important than the whole child? US law does not allow execution of a pregnant woman because there are two lives involved. Men attacking pregnant women and causing them to lose their babies have received extra sentences for the life of the child, both in US and UK. These things render abortion absurdly illogical as well as grossly barbaric.
    Simply because something is available does not make it right and we have not even mentioned religion.

  • Charlene Elliott

    If You Think Abortion Is Ok YOU Have MAJOR ISSUES And Need To Seek HELP..KILLING A HUMAN IS NOT OK..I Think If A Person Heartless Enough To Kill There Unborn Child Who Is A HUMAN..They Should Tie Your Tubes You Have No Right To Expirence The Love And Joy Of A Life Growing In Your Body EVER AGAIN!!!!Murders Should Have To Do Time For killing These Innocent Babies!!!

  • TaargusTaargus

    Let’s all just agree that there are too many children as it is, and the government should regulate who gets babies and who doesn’t…maybe with background check, credit score check, and specific education requirements for the parents. Thoughts? I’m sure everyone here will agree with that logical step, right?

    • Jeanie

      I don’t agree with you at all if that were the case I’m sure I wouldn’t have been able to keep my daughter. but like I said she helped me change my life

  • Kathren Elainadel Mahan Tyus

    I was an unplanned, unwanted pregnancy. My mother was developmentally disabled and my father….was not the best person. They were young and things happened that were beyond their understanding… I.E. you can get pregnant more than one week of the cycle. My parents did not love me. I was a tool, a paycheck. I was abused in ways not suitable for posting. By three years old, I had to be place with a family member who told me years later she resented me. I knew it already. Kids know when they’re loved and wanted. I went through another fifteen years of abuse before I left home. There were days I wish my mother had done everyone a favor and had an abortion. But she didn’t. One disfunctional family, three abusive relationships, a teenage pregnancy of my own, and several failed suicide attempts later, I’m still here. I’ve been to therapy, I’ve been to college, I’ve made a career, I’ve married, I’ve fought very hard to be the productive member of society that I am today. I’m still here. So is my daughter. Her birthday is in two days; she’ll be eight. She’s my saving grace, she really is. I guess where I’m going with this tirade is that not one decision will be right all of the time. Would my life have been better ended in the womb? Perhaps. But the world would be so much poorer for the absence of the life I brought into it. I believe that your choice is your own to make. I could never make the same personal choice as you, but I will never judge you. If you believe in a God, it is your responsibility to account for your choices, just as I would be accountable for passing judgment on you or attacking you.

  • SaneN85

    Awesome. If we’re making people feel like murderers and being hyperbolic about abortion, that must mean every already living child in existence has a home and loving, non-abusive parents! I’m so glad to hear that the kids who are already walking, talking, thinking, and feeling have been taken care of and now we can focus on the “pre-born”.

    Thank you pro-lifers for solving the problems that come after a person gives birth to a child they don’t want because someone made them feel guilty and called them a murderer. Now, if only we could find an excellent way to shame deadbeat dads into not walking away from their children guilt free!

  • Jessica

    Nancy, your baby is just beautiful, and I’m sorry for your loss. I am doing everything in my power to end this wicked practice of killing babies, and I pray with all of my heart that it ends soon. Church, Christians, anyone who loves truth and justice, stand up against this slaughter! We need to be out in the streets and making our voices heard. These babies are precious and need to be protected. Instead they are torn limb from limb, because of the selfish whims of their parents and the abortionsists!

  • Jessica

    I could almost agree with some of these statements, except for one thing, why do people have to interject thier religion into everything, how about ,abortion is bad because alot of people want kids and can’t have them …not oh ,oh abortions are because the magical sky fairy says it’s a life…no it’s a life if it has a heartbeat, not because jeebus says so.

    • Andrew J. Corrales

      I mean no disrespect, but if there is no God, then morality is merely a social construct that happened the way it did not because it actually was correct but because there was a survival advantage. Morality, therefore, according to atheism, is not universal, unchanging, or eternal. Furthermore if atheism is true then nobody will ever be held accountable for their secret misdeeds and nobody’s watching you, and there’s no reward for good behavior or punishment for bad behavior, either after death or after the end of the world. Can I ask, therefore, what reason atheists have to be good and avoid evil? We Christians believe in a Lawgiver whose judgments are based on truth, who shall appear one day to bring those who deliberately do evil wrath and those who persist in doing good glory, honor, and immortality. That is why we oppose evil. I mean no disrespect, but why do many atheists oppose evil? Now of course I’m referring to Christians who act in a way that isn’t hypocritical or sinful. Hypocrites and Christian sinners are another matter altogether. No disrespect intended. God bless. :)

      • Jessica

        Andrew, no disrespect taken, but why do we have to have a deity decide what is wrong or right are we not intelligent enough to decide this for ourselves I personally would not have an abortion but that is because I am 38 and have always wanted to be a mom but because of PCOS that is nigh on impossible I am NOT saying that people who have abortions are wrong but the religious aspect of it needs to be removed from the situation. an atheist does what they do because it is right, not because a sky faiery says so

        • Andrew J. Corrales

          Why does God decide right from wrong? Because 1. Right and wrong don’t really exist according to atheism. I reiterate that if atheism is true then morality is a social construct that was advantageous, and that morality isn’t eternal, universal, or unchanging. It came about when civilization began, it’ll go away after civilization’s over, and different places in civilization define it different ways–and they keep changing their definitions, according to atheism. If God doesn’t exist then absolute, objective moral truth doesn’t either, and their support of legalized abortion is no better or worse than your opposition to it.

          2. God designed the universe; He knows how to have things so that the universe works at its best; He knows which behaviors we should exhibit so that the human aspect of the universe functions correctly; ergo morality.

          I mean no disrespect but calling God a “sky faiery” is, to say the best of it, inaccurate. He is omnipresent, which means of course everywhere at once, not merely in the sky. He is also not a fairy in the strictest sense of the term. He’s a lot more impressive in every way than a fairy.

          Again, no disrespect intended. God bless. :)

    • Sarah ✈

      Not all pro-lifers are religious. But you don’t care, you just want an excuse to bash Christianity. (The only religion you reference, of course, because it’s the safe one to attack.)

  • Michael T. Warrell

    Beautiful baby boy! You’ll see him again. He’s safe with Jesus now. Thank you for sharing.

  • Jeanie

    jessica because that is how some people make decisions is by being right with God. I’ll be the first to admit that if I’m having a tough time making a decision I will turn to God say a prayer and than make my decision. there hasn’t been one life altering choice I’ve made that I haven’t had a chat with God about. And he’s seen me threw it every time I’ve asked for help.

  • Amen!!!!!!!

  • Brandi McReynolds Gares

    This is so sad. Especially what I’m reading from Adam and Jessica. All I can do is pray for your souls. I have 3 boys. I have had 4 miscarriages and a stillborn in between my 3 boys. I too did not want my pregnancies but bc I was afraid. Our youngest son was not wanted when I learned I was pregnant. But let me say he has been the biggest blessing. He is no doubt the biggest handful of them all but he is so amazing at the very same time. I wouldn’t change things for the world. And I thank God every day for my 3 blessings. They are what keeps me going and they fill my heart with love. They are the best things in my life, all 3 of them. I love my blessings!

  • Jessica Cardwell

    im absolutly discusted in some of these rotten post! abortion is totally wrong and if you dont want to be pregnant get steralised and stop creating life to murder it. im pregnant now im i could never sleep at night knowing ive took / vacumed a life away. you are a cold human bean and maybe you should never have been born. im totally ashamed in serial baby killers who use this as conraceptive method a girl i know had that many abortions when she actually wanted a baby she couldnt and thats the curse that you deserve. this poor baby wasnt miscarried noah” for yous to use this as to say its ok to kill a baby with a heart beat and can feel pain. go buy your self a heart as yous seem to be missing one.

  • Anna USF

    All of the parents posting multiple times on this forum could be spending quality time with their own children and actually parent them instead of arguing about an overly-exhausted mute point with complete strangers here.