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Tom Shillue puts term “love child” in perspective

One of my favorite shows is “Red Eye w/Greg Gutfeld.” I am a huge fan of Greg Gutfeld and Fox News Channel, and so my DVR is full of episodes of this delightful roundtable-type discussion show that airs at the ripe hour of 3am. The show doesn’t really discuss life issues from what I’ve watched, and abortion seems to come up only if one of the guests mentions it. Well, on the episode from February 1, comedian Tom Shillue did make an interesting point tying in abortion to the concept of a “love child.”

The segment was addressing Dan Marino, former Miami Dolphins quarterback, having fathered a love child. Guest Lori Rothman mentioned that Marino “was squeaky clean; that was his image” and that “it’s surprising to a lot of people.”

320px-ShillueTom (1)Yes, it is a bit surprising. But then Tom Shillue put the situation into the proper perspective when asked if the term should even be used.

Here’s the thing: love child? What is this, medieval times or something? What is it, like “Game of Thrones”? Enough with the love child!

So it is a bit of an archaic term – “love child.”

You know what the difference between a love child and an affair is the love child, they didn’t get an abortion…we make it as if it’s a higher crime. Having sex outside of marriage, it’s the only crime where the punishment decreases if you destroy the evidence[.]

Exactly! A child conceived from an affair is oftentimes considered “evidence” of an affair and is oftentimes “destroy[ed]” in order to hide that evidence. It’s one such example where abortion is taking the easier way out, where the procedure destroys the “evidence,” which is the child, to cover up the crimes of the child’s parents.

Bill Schulz then chimed in with:

I don’t…I reject the fact that kids are punishments. They’re delights.

Tom then makes what is the most powerful part of his statement:

… what I’m saying is the crime, you’re punished more with this, saddling this medieval love child over your head! It’s a kid, it’s a human being!

Okay, so it’s not only “medieval” to call someone a “love child,” but it makes this child seem merely a further scandalous part of the affair, and less like the human being that he or she is. Yes, it may be a bit shocking and scandalous that Dan Marino had an extramarital affair. The affair perhaps got more involving when a child was conceived from it. The affair was irresponsible, but having an abortion wouldn’t have made Marino and his partner any more responsible. The child should not have to pay for the parents’ wrongdoings. One should realize that yes, Dan Marino made a mistake, which was the affair. But he and the mother of the child came to an agreement and made the responsible decision to choose life!

I love Tom Shillue. He’s quite the comedian. He also performed in Jimmy Fallon’s barbershop quartet (he is one of my boyfriend’s favorite barbershoppers) and sang lead in the 2003 Northeastern District Quartet Championship Quartet, Scollay Square. But perhaps most important of all is that he has reminded us that when we talk of a “love child” and focus on the scandalous or shocking nature of the situation, we are forgetting that we’re talking about an actual human being here. Let’s remember that no matter the circumstances of conception, all children are deserving of love and respect as fellow human beings.

Dan Marino is discussed in the video starting at 37:19.

  • Mary Wert

    LOVE Greg Gutfield. He says it like it truly is. One of our modern day heroes!

  • “Yes, it may be a bit shocking and scandalous that Dan Marino had an extramarital affair.”

    It was probably more than a “bit” shocking to Mrs. Marino. When you word it that way, it diminishes and minimizes something that caused her a great deal of pain.

    • Rebecca Downs

      I’ll admit that before Tom started speaking about the child, I was shocked and scandalized and thought things like oh my god, how could anyone do such a thing, even though they sadly do all the time. But Tom really did put it in perspective, and I say that he did so for me personally. I in no way am diminishing or minimizing what kind of pain she went through, but rather seeking to put in perspective, as Tom did, the issue of “love child.” Mr. and Mrs. Marino are keeping it a private matter and are still together. As to the child though, which was the issue Tom was commenting on, the child is a very real and living person, who did not deserve to be punished for the crimes of the parents, no matter how shocking and scandalous the extramarital affair was.

      • Well, it’s not exactly private, at this point. And there really seems to be no shame on the part of Marino or his paramour. It’s good that she chose to keep the child, but it’s a tawdry business nonetheless. Choosing life doesn’t make it any less so.

        • Rebecca Downs

          They’re trying to keep it as private as they can I think is the issue. I don’t think it’s private either to be honest. Actually, before Tom started making his point, Greg, in a joking manner, basically I said was should it be called all men are unfaithful pigs, or something like that.

          True, choosing life doesn’t make the affair any less wrong, but at least they didn’t take the easy way out and seek to hide the affair through an abortion. Once the pregnancy came to light people likely found out soon before or after, and so they had to own up to the affair. Regardless though, it is at least worth mentioning that it was responsible to choose life, even if many other aspects of that situation were certainly not what one would call responsible…

          • The thing that’s disturbing about this, and many other stories, is that almost any degree of sexual iniquity is accepted if the result is pregnancy. We’re not even asking or expecting people to behave responsibly “before” a pregnancy occurs. We’re saying that as long as you’re responsible in having that child, it doesn’t really matter if there was pre-marital sex, adultery, polyamorous relationships – hey, anything goes. These situations are a slap in the face of Christianity, but it seems that no one is willing to call anyone out on it, especially if there’s a child involved. There’s a great deal of hypocrisy here that I, for one, am pretty uncomfortable with.

          • Rebecca Downs

            No, of course there is much to be uncomfortable with. But again, the point that Tom was addressing, and which people need to be reminded of, is that to throw around the word “love child” undermines the child. Of course having an affair isn’t Christian-like or responsible or something to be comfortable with. But it certainly could have turned out that Dan Marino and the mother kept acting irresponsible and had an abortion. They didn’t. They owned up to it and at least the situation is hopefully being healed as much as it can be.

          • I think the point he’s really making is that there’s only one affected person and only one person who matters in this whole mess, and that’s a child. Everyone else is on the periphery, his wife, other children, extended family and friends . . . none of them have any business judging or feeling hurt and betrayed because it’s all about the baby, and they should be, well, really happy about that, I guess, and find some kind of healing in it. I think that’s a lot to ask, or expect. Can you see what I mean? That, for example, his children might be resentful and not at all comforted by this situation. So, that doesn’t mean that this woman should have had an abortion, but it’s still just so outrageous that she, apparently, thought it was a-ok to fool around with another woman’s husband. And for all we know, she may have planned to have his child all along. It’s just so . . . distasteful. What I’m saying is I’d like to see someone, anyone, realizing that all these other people matter too. I do see your point, though, and I imagine I’m just in the wrong place to find anyone having those concerns. And, ultimately, that’s fine.

          • Rebecca Downs

            Nobody said that it was the wrong place to have such concerns. Neither
            Tom nor I, nor anybody on the show if I remember correctly, was arguing
            that the affair was okay. I think if anything they were arguing that
            there doesn’t need to be so much media attention over it. People do bad
            things, including affairs. Sadly it’s not all that shocking or
            outrageous nowadays… I don’t know the exact circumstances and I don’t
            seek to make assumptions about it. It is distasteful, but at least in
            some sense those involved have been able to move on as much as they can,
            through healing and forgiveness. Tom was seeking to make an interesting
            point that people didn’t really think of, that went deeper into the
            heart of the matter, that this “love child” was an actual child, it
            wasn’t just some random product of an affair. He wasn’t saying that the
            affair was okay though.